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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

Because people didn’t pay impact taxes to fund a holding school.

Bingo...MCPS and superitendnt has an obligation to find a solution that provides maximum benefit to most students as defined by FAA factors. That is exactly what happened here.

Then why did he propose using Crown as a holding school if you are convinced it’s not a viable option? Certainly Taylor knew the financial status of MCPS with regard to renovating Magruder before he did so.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

Because people didn’t pay impact taxes to fund a holding school.

Bingo...MCPS and superitendnt has an obligation to find a solution that provides maximum benefit to most students as defined by FAA factors. That is exactly what happened here.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

Oh great - the data people are here. Don’t you need to “fix” some data?

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

Because people didn’t pay impact taxes to fund a holding school.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

Because people didn’t pay impact taxes to fund a holding school.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

Holding school makes it work too - and Taylor proposed that as an option. Why do that if the data didn’t support it?

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

Bingo bango

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Crown is a sunk cost. We can't get that money back, so we have to make it work.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

I don’t think anyone’s saying “two wrongs make a right.” The concern is more that Option H might just be baking in past mistakes instead of actually fixing them.

Saying this is the most fiscally sound option only works if that’s actually been shown. If the decision is being driven by the fact that Crown is already built, rather than a full, transparent look at alternatives, then it starts to feel like we’re just making the current plan work—not choosing the best one.

The real question is did MCPS actually compare all the options and show the data? Is the data MCPS shared flawed? (Some have analyzed the data and found that it is). Or are we just assuming this is the most cost-effective path because of where things already stand?

Anonymous wrote:I’m so disappointed in this thread. We have a long way to go to get to 200 and it has been so boring. Do better. This is a Wendy’s after all

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth bomb: When MCPS and Montgomery County itself are so low on funds because of so many compounding factors, it wouldn't matter if God herself opposed these options. Community opinion has absolutely no bearing when the money simply isn't there. And yes, I agree that it is appalling that we are in this spot but alas, here we are so let's please stop with the idea that it is "against the will of the people." Even if this is an indisputable fact (many would say it is not but that is besides the point), it literally does not matter.

So financial mismanagement and failure to follow the law don’t matter. Only money does?

Of course they do-that's not at all what I am saying here. To the extent that there is a "remedy" needed-it would be procedural and not impact the outcome. Financial mismanagement in the past is actually not relevant here.

It is highly relevant if that was the pre-determined reason for pushing Option H over all the other options. This is especially important as the chronology indicates MCPS planned to close Wootton far earlier than it disclosed publicly.

Financial mismanagement in the past IS the reason for Option H. I think all agree on that.

Maybe you just think that because past mistakes were made, another fiscally unsound decision should be made today? Sort of "Two wrongs make a right" logic?

Many of us think that the most fiscally sound decision should be made today, regardless of how we got here.