Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:12     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone from FCPS described the current Carson split as follows:

Westfield 50.7%
South Lakes 28.0%
Oakton 20.8%
Chantilly 0.4%

I guess that includes AAP kids, otherwise it seems like there would have been an earlier proposal to eliminate the splits to Oakton and Chantilly.


That must exclude AAP or the percentages do not add up. Either that or they are excluding the AAP from Franklin.

There are over 280 attending from Franklin. I assume that is half 7 and half 8th grade. That be a split between Navy and Oak Hill and Lee's Corner AAP from Franklin. Oak Hill has a LOT of kids in AAP.

The Oak Hill kids would be AAP, but that seems a very low percentage to me. I THINK Lee's Corner AAP also goes to Carson? Of course, some would end up at TJ, too.

But, I think that would only be 4 kids to Chantilly--so it must not include AAP. I know there are a whole lot more than that.

So, those percentages must exclude AAP from Franklin.

One thing for sure: those claiming this would reduce Westfield by 1000 are wrong.


Why? Carson is 1600. Don't you think Westfield kids at Carson are at least 500? Or maybe you just don't understand math.


I understand enough math to know there are not 1600 kids at Carson .


They gave actual numbers. It’s 1740 kids


Who is they?

That is not what the data says online. They must have been using very, very old data. In fact, I'm not sure there have ever been that many there.
https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107::105::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:171,0

1343 this year.
Makes me also wonder if those percentages are correct if they told you there were 1740 students.

FWIW, there is a significant number of out of boundary kids at Carson--I assume mostly AAP from Franklin.
As I recall, the transfer data said there were 286 out of boundary kids at Carson.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:11     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone from FCPS described the current Carson split as follows:

Westfield 50.7%
South Lakes 28.0%
Oakton 20.8%
Chantilly 0.4%

I guess that includes AAP kids, otherwise it seems like there would have been an earlier proposal to eliminate the splits to Oakton and Chantilly.


That must exclude AAP or the percentages do not add up. Either that or they are excluding the AAP from Franklin.

There are over 280 attending from Franklin. I assume that is half 7 and half 8th grade. That be a split between Navy and Oak Hill and Lee's Corner AAP from Franklin. Oak Hill has a LOT of kids in AAP.

The Oak Hill kids would be AAP, but that seems a very low percentage to me. I THINK Lee's Corner AAP also goes to Carson? Of course, some would end up at TJ, too.

But, I think that would only be 4 kids to Chantilly--so it must not include AAP. I know there are a whole lot more than that.

So, those percentages must exclude AAP from Franklin.

One thing for sure: those claiming this would reduce Westfield by 1000 are wrong.


Why? Carson is 1600. Don't you think Westfield kids at Carson are at least 500? Or maybe you just don't understand math.


I understand enough math to know there are not 1600 kids at Carson .


They gave actual numbers. It’s 1740 kids

Until “they” are properly sourced, the number is 1343.

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:42::::RP:P42_SCHOOL,P0_EDSL:SUMMARY,0
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:11     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:“Community input is an important part of the process for determining the new high school’s name, as governed by Policy and Regulation 8170. Families in the Centreville, Chantilly, Herndon, Langley, Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield pyramids will have opportunities to provide their feedback. Langley, Oakton, and South Lakes high school communities are included, because there are students in each of these schools who live in the western part of the county.”

From the new Western HS page on FCPS that came out in the email from FCPS 20ish minutes ago. Absolutely laughable that they included Langley in this community feedback process.


Wow. Why would you say that? They clearly and correctly state that there are some students from EACH of the listed schools who actually live in the area that will be affected by the new Western HS. But don't let those facts get in the way of your irrational obsession!
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:10     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Ok, sure there’s enough parking for sophomores, but the goal is to eventually house all four grade levels. It doesn’t appear to have as many spots as other FCPS high schools.

There is no tennis court, baseball field or softball field.

At our current high school, we start registering for classes in January. Just seems like an awful lot for this school board to pull together in a few short months. They typically have years to plan this stuff when a school is built. They are cramming all the decisions into a couple months. It is too rushed.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:07     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone from FCPS described the current Carson split as follows:

Westfield 50.7%
South Lakes 28.0%
Oakton 20.8%
Chantilly 0.4%

I guess that includes AAP kids, otherwise it seems like there would have been an earlier proposal to eliminate the splits to Oakton and Chantilly.


That must exclude AAP or the percentages do not add up. Either that or they are excluding the AAP from Franklin.

There are over 280 attending from Franklin. I assume that is half 7 and half 8th grade. That be a split between Navy and Oak Hill and Lee's Corner AAP from Franklin. Oak Hill has a LOT of kids in AAP.

The Oak Hill kids would be AAP, but that seems a very low percentage to me. I THINK Lee's Corner AAP also goes to Carson? Of course, some would end up at TJ, too.

But, I think that would only be 4 kids to Chantilly--so it must not include AAP. I know there are a whole lot more than that.

So, those percentages must exclude AAP from Franklin.

One thing for sure: those claiming this would reduce Westfield by 1000 are wrong.


Why? Carson is 1600. Don't you think Westfield kids at Carson are at least 500? Or maybe you just don't understand math.


I understand enough math to know there are not 1600 kids at Carson .


They gave actual numbers. It’s 1740 kids


Who is they?

That is not what the data says online. They must have been using very, very old data. In fact, I'm not sure there have ever been that many there.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:07     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

“Community input is an important part of the process for determining the new high school’s name, as governed by Policy and Regulation 8170. Families in the Centreville, Chantilly, Herndon, Langley, Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield pyramids will have opportunities to provide their feedback. Langley, Oakton, and South Lakes high school communities are included, because there are students in each of these schools who live in the western part of the county.”

From the new Western HS page on FCPS that came out in the email from FCPS 20ish minutes ago. Absolutely laughable that they included Langley in this community feedback process.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:02     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone from FCPS described the current Carson split as follows:

Westfield 50.7%
South Lakes 28.0%
Oakton 20.8%
Chantilly 0.4%

I guess that includes AAP kids, otherwise it seems like there would have been an earlier proposal to eliminate the splits to Oakton and Chantilly.


That must exclude AAP or the percentages do not add up. Either that or they are excluding the AAP from Franklin.

There are over 280 attending from Franklin. I assume that is half 7 and half 8th grade. That be a split between Navy and Oak Hill and Lee's Corner AAP from Franklin. Oak Hill has a LOT of kids in AAP.

The Oak Hill kids would be AAP, but that seems a very low percentage to me. I THINK Lee's Corner AAP also goes to Carson? Of course, some would end up at TJ, too.

But, I think that would only be 4 kids to Chantilly--so it must not include AAP. I know there are a whole lot more than that.

So, those percentages must exclude AAP from Franklin.

One thing for sure: those claiming this would reduce Westfield by 1000 are wrong.


Why? Carson is 1600. Don't you think Westfield kids at Carson are at least 500? Or maybe you just don't understand math.


I understand enough math to know there are not 1600 kids at Carson .


They gave actual numbers. It’s 1740 kids
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 17:02     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How can they possibly have this new school up and running in 10 months? They don’t have the athletic facilities to house the sports traditional high schools offer. There is not enough parking. Is there a plan for kiss n ride and a bus loop? They’re voting on curriculum after they put out boundaries. The inside of the school needs to be renovated to make it appropriate for high school classrooms. The prospective students need to begin registering for classes in a couple of months. This process is too rushed.


They are just opening the school for 9/10. Not too many drivers. It looks to me like there is enough parking. Have they mentioned that as a problem? There is also parking around those two additional buildings. There are plenty of athletic fields--just not a football field, but there is room for one. I think I read that there are three gyms?

Looks to me like there is already a bus loop there. It has been a school already, so I would expect there is a Kiss and Ride area.

This is October. I don't think kids register for the next school year in December.


Can't a soccer field be temporarily converted to a JV football field by adding goal posts?

Many high schools in the US, including FCPS high schools, make football, lacrosse and soccer all play on the same field.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:59     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:How can they possibly have this new school up and running in 10 months? They don’t have the athletic facilities to house the sports traditional high schools offer. There is not enough parking. Is there a plan for kiss n ride and a bus loop? They’re voting on curriculum after they put out boundaries. The inside of the school needs to be renovated to make it appropriate for high school classrooms. The prospective students need to begin registering for classes in a couple of months. This process is too rushed.


They are just opening the school for 9/10. Not too many drivers. It looks to me like there is enough parking. Have they mentioned that as a problem? There is also parking around those two additional buildings. There are plenty of athletic fields--just not a football field, but there is room for one. I think I read that there are three gyms?

Looks to me like there is already a bus loop there. It has been a school already, so I would expect there is a Kiss and Ride area.

This is October. I don't think kids register for the next school year in December.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:52     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

How can they possibly have this new school up and running in 10 months? They don’t have the athletic facilities to house the sports traditional high schools offer. There is not enough parking. Is there a plan for kiss n ride and a bus loop? They’re voting on curriculum after they put out boundaries. The inside of the school needs to be renovated to make it appropriate for high school classrooms. The prospective students need to begin registering for classes in a couple of months. This process is too rushed.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:47     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are people still trying to stack schools? Or are they finally trying to do right for system as a whole?

I will not be surprised if at the end of the day, we will have spent loads of money and made almost no improvements. It is the FCPS way.


Explain what that means for the untutored.


Trying to interpret here myself.
It
I think it means that they are trying to make elite schools?

There are different schools of thought on how FCPS will improve.
Some want more schools with great scores--a la Langley.
Some think we should move kids in order to improve scores at other schools.

My personal belief: leave kids where they are and work to improve the struggling schools Address the issues rather than cover them up.

I say that as a former teacher who worked with impoverished kids who lived in the projects. Granted, this was an elementary school, but we made great strides with the kids. It took very hard work by the teachers and direct instruction. Did we reach the top tier? No. Not in all areas. But, we came close with math.

To improve scores in a high school, moving in wealthier kids works. However, it does not improve the education of struggling students. It just covers up their scores.

So, do I know what PP means by stacked? Not sure.
But, that is my guess.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:46     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are people still trying to stack schools? Or are they finally trying to do right for system as a whole?

I will not be surprised if at the end of the day, we will have spent loads of money and made almost no improvements. It is the FCPS way.


It turns out that moving kids in a zero sum game picking winners and losers is just not something the community supports.

Here’s to hoping the boundary changes continue to shrink down to just changes that relieve Coates.


They will have to change boundaries for KAA.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:42     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:Are people still trying to stack schools? Or are they finally trying to do right for system as a whole?

I will not be surprised if at the end of the day, we will have spent loads of money and made almost no improvements. It is the FCPS way.


It turns out that moving kids in a zero sum game picking winners and losers is just not something the community supports.

Here’s to hoping the boundary changes continue to shrink down to just changes that relieve Coates.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:39     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Anonymous wrote:Are people still trying to stack schools? Or are they finally trying to do right for system as a whole?

I will not be surprised if at the end of the day, we will have spent loads of money and made almost no improvements. It is the FCPS way.


Explain what that means for the untutored.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2025 16:37     Subject: Boundary Review Meetings

Are people still trying to stack schools? Or are they finally trying to do right for system as a whole?

I will not be surprised if at the end of the day, we will have spent loads of money and made almost no improvements. It is the FCPS way.