Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 15:00     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
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Plenty of people say mass shootings are horrible but are the cost of preventing tyranny by having an armed populace.





Word
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 14:07     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:

Plenty of people say mass shootings are horrible but are the cost of preventing tyranny by having an armed populace.



Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 13:40     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.


Then use police officers.


Police weren't much help in this case, were they?

One of my good friends is a police officer. He says it's divided: half of the officers say they would wait around as they did in Texas to form a plan and wait for additional backup. The other half say no, you swore an oath, you go in there even if you are going to die because at least it gives the people you are sworn to protect a chance.

I'm not willing to take that 50/50 gamble with my children's lives. Are you?


This is illogical.

You actually are saying, like in an active shooter situation, YOU DONT WANT POLICE???? YOU WOULDNT CALL FREAKING 9-1-1????? Who would you call - Ghostbusters? Social worker?

Please, walk me through who will respond to an active shooter situation in your world. Who would be the person to handle it? Or would you suggest everybody just pray and do nothing while a shooter mows down kids


What’s illogical about it?

People are saying instead of gun reform, we just need armed security and police officers in schools.

But we now know that many of those police and guards won’t do anything in the event of a shooter. Many will bail or just wait around, as was the case in Texas.

I’m not sure where you got the idea I wouldn’t call 9-1-1. I said I don’t think police officers in schools are a solution, because most are proving to be useless.

The answer is gun reform. Our children will be safer when people don’t have access to these guns, not when we put armed police in schools.


Imagine kids cant buy any guns anymore. Teen boy grabs daddy's AR-15 or glock and walks up to a school to commit a school shooting. Do you want police there?


“More guns” isn’t scalable. Police aren’t equipped to deal with an endless supply of mass murderers.

We need:
Fewer guns
Less devastating guns (no HC magazine, etc)
More tracking & control over guns
More responsibility for gun owners (training, gun safes, liability)
More counselors in schools to support at-risk kids
More mental health care
Well-trained police force
Tools for LEO to fight gun trafficking
Less dark money in politics (might be the only way to get above)

All of this takes money. I’m ok paying more in taxes if we are getting effective, valuable services.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 13:30     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not getting over this. The last thing gun-fetishists want us to down is mobilize for change - so that’s what we’re doing.


+1. I’m not letting this one go either. We, as a nation, will change.


I don’t want to get over it.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 10:08     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
The children’s funerals are starting. It’s so tragic and so preventable.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 00:23     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:I’m not getting over this. The last thing gun-fetishists want us to down is mobilize for change - so that’s what we’re doing.


+1. I’m not letting this one go either. We, as a nation, will change.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 21:35     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
I’m not getting over this. The last thing gun-fetishists want us to down is mobilize for change - so that’s what we’re doing.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 19:27     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.


Then use police officers.


Police weren't much help in this case, were they?

One of my good friends is a police officer. He says it's divided: half of the officers say they would wait around as they did in Texas to form a plan and wait for additional backup. The other half say no, you swore an oath, you go in there even if you are going to die because at least it gives the people you are sworn to protect a chance.

I'm not willing to take that 50/50 gamble with my children's lives. Are you?


This is illogical.

You actually are saying, like in an active shooter situation, YOU DONT WANT POLICE???? YOU WOULDNT CALL FREAKING 9-1-1????? Who would you call - Ghostbusters? Social worker?

Please, walk me through who will respond to an active shooter situation in your world. Who would be the person to handle it? Or would you suggest everybody just pray and do nothing while a shooter mows down kids


What’s illogical about it?

People are saying instead of gun reform, we just need armed security and police officers in schools.

But we now know that many of those police and guards won’t do anything in the event of a shooter. Many will bail or just wait around, as was the case in Texas.

I’m not sure where you got the idea I wouldn’t call 9-1-1. I said I don’t think police officers in schools are a solution, because most are proving to be useless.

The answer is gun reform. Our children will be safer when people don’t have access to these guns, not when we put armed police in schools.


Imagine kids cant buy any guns anymore. Teen boy grabs daddy's AR-15 or glock and walks up to a school to commit a school shooting. Do you want police there?


DP. I'd like the kind of police that try to stop him and prevent kids from dying by doing their jobs instead of standing around with their thumbs up their various asses. Can I get some of those former kind? Do they still make them?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 19:23     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.


Then use police officers.


Police weren't much help in this case, were they?

One of my good friends is a police officer. He says it's divided: half of the officers say they would wait around as they did in Texas to form a plan and wait for additional backup. The other half say no, you swore an oath, you go in there even if you are going to die because at least it gives the people you are sworn to protect a chance.

I'm not willing to take that 50/50 gamble with my children's lives. Are you?


This is illogical.

You actually are saying, like in an active shooter situation, YOU DONT WANT POLICE???? YOU WOULDNT CALL FREAKING 9-1-1????? Who would you call - Ghostbusters? Social worker?

Please, walk me through who will respond to an active shooter situation in your world. Who would be the person to handle it? Or would you suggest everybody just pray and do nothing while a shooter mows down kids


What’s illogical about it?

People are saying instead of gun reform, we just need armed security and police officers in schools.

But we now know that many of those police and guards won’t do anything in the event of a shooter. Many will bail or just wait around, as was the case in Texas.

I’m not sure where you got the idea I wouldn’t call 9-1-1. I said I don’t think police officers in schools are a solution, because most are proving to be useless.

The answer is gun reform. Our children will be safer when people don’t have access to these guns, not when we put armed police in schools.


Imagine kids cant buy any guns anymore. Teen boy grabs daddy's AR-15 or glock and walks up to a school to commit a school shooting. Do you want police there?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 19:14     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Since nothing is sadly ever going to change - this might be the answer. https://www.facebook.com/groups/CityOfLewisville/permalink/3195333257399202/


This is disturbing. I know you’re frustrated, but this sad reality can’t be the answer.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 19:10     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
^^ HOW he could afford….
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 19:09     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
For people upthread who asked he could afford to buy such guns, there’s an article in today’s NYT about gunmaker Daniel Defense, which was the brand used in the school massacre. The company’s advertising positions it’s guns with cartoon characters and video games and was an early adopter direct-to-consumer marketing “enticing customers to ‘buy now, pay later.’” So, it’s likely he never paid for it. 🤔

I’m too lazy to link it, but the print article is titled “Rifle Maker Known to Push Limits.”
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 18:29     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
It’s so heartbreaking. Hell, I truly wouldn’t care if we banned all guns - this must stop.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 14:58     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:When is the everytown march? I saw it on the website a couple days ago but I’m having trouble locating it now. It could be because I’m on my mobile today rather than on my laptop.


I think it’s June 11th but I’ll double check.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2022 13:50     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
When is the everytown march? I saw it on the website a couple days ago but I’m having trouble locating it now. It could be because I’m on my mobile today rather than on my laptop.