Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 17:26     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.


So, just to be clear - you endorse the 15 minute city model, then?



Even a deeply urbanist publication like CityLab things 15-minute cities are not realistic or feasible or even very wise:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-29/15-minute-cities-have-lofty-goals-questionable-economics


the article you link to doesn't say any of those things


"The economics of the 15-minute city don’t really work." It certainly does.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:54     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.


There is plenty of affordable housing in DC. You’re just afraid to live in those parts of town.


This.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:53     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.

Which highly dense cities anywhere in the world have cheap housing?


plenty, if you're willing to live in places like bangladesh or mogadishu
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 14:33     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.


So, just to be clear - you endorse the 15 minute city model, then?



Even a deeply urbanist publication like CityLab things 15-minute cities are not realistic or feasible or even very wise:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-29/15-minute-cities-have-lofty-goals-questionable-economics


the article you link to doesn't say any of those things
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 14:16     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.


So, just to be clear - you endorse the 15 minute city model, then?



Even a deeply urbanist publication like CityLab things 15-minute cities are not realistic or feasible or even very wise:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-29/15-minute-cities-have-lofty-goals-questionable-economics
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 13:25     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.

Which highly dense cities anywhere in the world have cheap housing?


...lots of them?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 11:50     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.


So, just to be clear - you endorse the 15 minute city model, then?

Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 08:00     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.

Which highly dense cities anywhere in the world have cheap housing?


Berlin


Berlin housing overall is not cheap. Less expensive rents can be found in the massive “Plattenbau” Soviet-era housing blocks that still exist in former East Berlin. Is that the vision that the Density Bros have for NW Washington?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 06:28     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.

Which highly dense cities anywhere in the world have cheap housing?


Berlin
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2024 20:42     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.


There is plenty of affordable housing in DC. You’re just afraid to live in those parts of town.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2024 18:26     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.

Which highly dense cities anywhere in the world have cheap housing?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2024 18:23     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.


Yeah, god forbid we encourage development where its so convenient to live that you don't need to spend 20% of your take home pay on a car to get you from a to b and you could just use your two legs and feet. The absolute horror.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2024 18:12     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?


And yet progressives themselves will tell you how that’s the urban design of the future.

The only language y’all are fluent in is gaslighting.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2024 17:02     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


What is the time frame of comparison point for the sales tax data in the study? Is all of this using pre-2020 data or does some of if include 2020 to present data.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2024 16:49     Subject: Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:another fair comparison



Funny enough though, because of all the complaining, SF-DOT is proposing potentially removing the center lane ones and putting in curbside, which would cut back on additional parking than the center lane.


They didn’t get the business closures they were seeking with center lane. Need to do curb lane instead. People were still able to use businesses. Gotta stop that. They want those businesses shuttered so developers can get that property and convert it to high density residential with retail underneath.

Those 15 minute cities aren’t gonna happen without inflicting pain and ruination.


Wow, full blow republican tinfoil hat talking point about 15 minute cities now?