Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is truly all about entitlement. Brock was raised that way. He thought he could just take what he wanted. But he got caught and now he has to pay the price. However, his entitled parents and entitled judge who went to his same university think he shouldn't have to pay the price. Entitlement, bottom line.
You have a terrible grasp of our legal and judiciary system. Anonymous strangers are affecting the career of a well-respected judge out of ignorance and knee-jerk groupthink.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is truly all about entitlement. Brock was raised that way. He thought he could just take what he wanted. But he got caught and now he has to pay the price. However, his entitled parents and entitled judge who went to his same university think he shouldn't have to pay the price. Entitlement, bottom line.
You have a terrible grasp of our legal and judiciary system. Anonymous strangers are affecting the career of a well-respected judge out of ignorance and knee-jerk groupthink.
Anonymous wrote:This is truly all about entitlement. Brock was raised that way. He thought he could just take what he wanted. But he got caught and now he has to pay the price. However, his entitled parents and entitled judge who went to his same university think he shouldn't have to pay the price. Entitlement, bottom line.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:O.k. I just read the Wikipedia on Brock Turner and apparently he was smiling after the first swede tackled him. The swede asked him "Why are you smiling?"....
Chilling.
That is so creepy, I hope it's not true.
It literally sent chills down my spine when I read that. That is just so messed up....like that swede caught a glimpse of something evil in that kid.
It's a direct quote of the swedes on Wikipedia. First I've heard of that. I don't know where that info came from. Like you, I hope that it isn't true.
Why do you hope it isn't true? I mean that seriously. This man (and yes, he's a man) assaulted an unconscious woman behind a dumpster, and you're worried about whether or not he's an actual rapist, is that it? Since, because she was drunk and passed out, she's not the "perfect victim" and so we just need him to not be that evil? Guess what, he is that evil. He did what he was prosecuted for, as determined by a jury. And her drunkenness was factored into the equation in that a legislative body actually determined that it was a crime for him to do what he did. Unambiguously. It means nothing to me that he smiled about it. Well, I guess it confirms for me that he didn't deserve leniency.
I would hope that no one would smile over doing something like that to another person. That would show a severe lack of empathy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:O.k. I just read the Wikipedia on Brock Turner and apparently he was smiling after the first swede tackled him. The swede asked him "Why are you smiling?"....
Chilling.
That is so creepy, I hope it's not true.
It literally sent chills down my spine when I read that. That is just so messed up....like that swede caught a glimpse of something evil in that kid.
It's a direct quote of the swedes on Wikipedia. First I've heard of that. I don't know where that info came from. Like you, I hope that it isn't true.
Why do you hope it isn't true? I mean that seriously. This man (and yes, he's a man) assaulted an unconscious woman behind a dumpster, and you're worried about whether or not he's an actual rapist, is that it? Since, because she was drunk and passed out, she's not the "perfect victim" and so we just need him to not be that evil? Guess what, he is that evil. He did what he was prosecuted for, as determined by a jury. And her drunkenness was factored into the equation in that a legislative body actually determined that it was a crime for him to do what he did. Unambiguously. It means nothing to me that he smiled about it. Well, I guess it confirms for me that he didn't deserve leniency.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:O.k. I just read the Wikipedia on Brock Turner and apparently he was smiling after the first swede tackled him. The swede asked him "Why are you smiling?"....
Chilling.
That is so creepy, I hope it's not true.
It literally sent chills down my spine when I read that. That is just so messed up....like that swede caught a glimpse of something evil in that kid.
It's a direct quote of the swedes on Wikipedia. First I've heard of that. I don't know where that info came from. Like you, I hope that it isn't true.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:O.k. I just read the Wikipedia on Brock Turner and apparently he was smiling after the first swede tackled him. The swede asked him "Why are you smiling?"....
Chilling.
That is so creepy, I hope it's not true.
It literally sent chills down my spine when I read that. That is just so messed up....like that swede caught a glimpse of something evil in that kid.
It's a direct quote of the swedes on Wikipedia. First I've heard of that. I don't know where that info came from. Like you, I hope that it isn't true.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:O.k. I just read the Wikipedia on Brock Turner and apparently he was smiling after the first swede tackled him. The swede asked him "Why are you smiling?"....
Chilling.
That is so creepy, I hope it's not true.
Anonymous wrote:O.k. I just read the Wikipedia on Brock Turner and apparently he was smiling after the first swede tackled him. The swede asked him "Why are you smiling?"....
Chilling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Anyone who says that Emily's drinking was not completely out of control and extremely dangerous that night is an enabler who is doing her a disservice by minimizing how harmful her drinking was that night. She needs to wise up and reign that in or she will be dead by the time she's 30. No joke.
I am not a "Brock groupie". But I also do not choose to demonize and blame this guy for everything under the sun that went wrong that night. He was wrong and he is paying a high price for what he did. That does not mean that Emily did not hurt herself. Calling her a light drinker or minimizing the horrific consequences of passing out the way that she did is not doing that girl any favors.
But if you think that a parent dropping their drunk daughter off on a college campus is fine, then maybe you just plain aren't going to ever get it.
If you give a sh*t about THAT girl you would not try to give her a pass on that drinking.
The funny thing is while you are accusing others of giving Emily a pass, you can't seem to see that others (like you) are doing everything in your power to minimize Brock's role - he was younger, newbie at drinking, parents who raised him correctly, no way he was doing drugs, his level of drinking could never match up to Emily's and on and on.
Come on, at least acknowledge that you are very biased - and your bias is not only in the name of warning girls that their actions can have dangerous consequences.
Actually, I think that in Emily's case you can see the train coming. Her drinking was catching up with her. That night wasn't going to end well for her.....the rocks were waiting for her to hit. This is not to say that she deserved to be sexually assaulted half naked behind a dumpster - but she was in trouble that night. She could have died that night.
With Brock? That train just smacked him, no warning. Never saw it coming. Good kid, good family, Olympic hopeful, bright future ahead. Smack.
The weird part of what Brock did is that he really is a newbie to the social party/drinking scene. He really was a teenager not a year out of HS with involved and protective parents. He really did not have the level of drinking/sexual experience that Emily had. Calling Brock "less experienced" in all ways is a statement of fact. Emily wasn't "bad" for being more experienced than a freshman. But college grads with full time jobs are expected to be more mature and experienced than a kid fresh out of HS. I'm actually a little tired of debating something that is just. So. Obvious. Duh. Sorry.
I would not expect a kid like Brock to suddenly and brazenly sexually assault a woman - behind a dumpster with a party full of people nearby. That is scary and serious stuff. Where the hell did this come from and what were the signs? What on earth was he thinking? What was Emily thinking go back there with him?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Anyone who says that Emily's drinking was not completely out of control and extremely dangerous that night is an enabler who is doing her a disservice by minimizing how harmful her drinking was that night. She needs to wise up and reign that in or she will be dead by the time she's 30. No joke.
I am not a "Brock groupie". But I also do not choose to demonize and blame this guy for everything under the sun that went wrong that night. He was wrong and he is paying a high price for what he did. That does not mean that Emily did not hurt herself. Calling her a light drinker or minimizing the horrific consequences of passing out the way that she did is not doing that girl any favors.
But if you think that a parent dropping their drunk daughter off on a college campus is fine, then maybe you just plain aren't going to ever get it.
If you give a sh*t about THAT girl you would not try to give her a pass on that drinking.
The funny thing is while you are accusing others of giving Emily a pass, you can't seem to see that others (like you) are doing everything in your power to minimize Brock's role - he was younger, newbie at drinking, parents who raised him correctly, no way he was doing drugs, his level of drinking could never match up to Emily's and on and on.
Come on, at least acknowledge that you are very biased - and your bias is not only in the name of warning girls that their actions can have dangerous consequences.