Anonymous wrote:An interesting read from a reporter on the ground talking about how average Minnesotans are reacting to the ICE raids.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/minneapolis-uprising/685755/?gift=IlQSd21p-cR2DhBimYzI_uNwIaMFhcgrBLlY_WCrWFc&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:If Minnesota withdraws from the United States and we have a civil war, which side would you be on?

Well in a normal country there would be an impeachment. I wouldn’t like to choose between trump and Walz. It’s like choosing between cancer and aids.

If that’s how you feel about it you certainly deserve Trump and every punishment that comes with him.

Yes, and you deserve ICE as well for being so radical.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

Did you watch the video? They did back up - Petti did for sure. But the ICE guys kept coming after them regardless. They were at the curb and out of traffic when he pepper sprayed them.

The video the poster above you says does not exist? Yes. So which is it? There is a video with him in the middle of the street or there’s not?

The video of a guy briefly walking into the street holding a phone? Yeah sure, totally justifies murder.

Good lord, you just keep trying this crap and it's just not going to work.

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Anonymous wrote:If Minnesota withdraws from the United States and we have a civil war, which side would you be on?

Americans don’t actually want war. War takes effort and it is ugly and chaotic. When it comes down to it, despite our current difficulties, nobody is actually going to want to do it.

I want soft secession. I want wealthy blue states like California, NY, Mass. Illinois, Minn. and the rest of them to STOP funding the federal government. Keep their federal taxes in their states and don't send a penny to the red states who voted this horrible administration in -- twice. Starve out the magas.

Just stop! We are the United States and I’m not going to give up on the millions of people trapped in fascist red states and pretend blue states are any better. Yours is such a simplistic view. We fight for our entire country. You are as bad as MAGA with this division/ othering.

So F the people who are living in these states who hate what is going on? The 60% of Kansans who voted to keep abortion legal? Or the 40% of people in Indiana who vote agains Trump, or the 33% in Kentucky, or the 38% in Louisiana, or the 40% in South Carolina, the 42% in Texas? What about the 47.6% of people of North Carolina who had to fight for MONTHS to seat a Judge because of the shananigans of the GOP? Should we just say, oh well, screw you.

By your logic, the rest of world should tell the US to pound sand. Too bad, we voted for Trump.

I mean, I get it. I get angry sometimes too but do not stoop to MAGA's level. We are the UNITED STATES. We will fight for all of us.

DP but WTF?

F—k the red states.

So F the people who are living in these states who hate what is going on? The 60% of Kansans who voted to keep abortion legal? Or the 40% of people in Indiana who vote agains Trump, or the 33% in Kentucky, or the 38% in Louisiana, or the 40% in South Carolina, the 42% in Texas? What about the 47.6% of people of North Carolina who had to fight for MONTHS to seat a Judge because of the shananigans of the GOP? Should we just say, oh well, screw you.

By your logic, the rest of world should tell the US to pound sand. Too bad, we voted for Trump.

I mean, I get it. I get angry sometimes too but do not stoop to MAGA's level. We are the UNITED STATES. We will fight for all of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

The 7 ICE officers were blocking the street when they shot him and stood back to watch his lifeless body. Should they have then been shot?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

Or else what? You’ll be shot and killed?

That’s not how the law works here. What was so damn urgent they couldn’t just walk away. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

And there’s the problem, you think you’re above the law. What was so damn urgent he couldn’t move to the sidewalk?

Again. That’s not how the law works here. The Constitution constrains the government, not the citizen. He was exercising his rights. They were violating them. They need a compelling reason to do that, so I ask again, what the hell were they doing that necessitated their actions? Many law enforcement officers have seen punishment for much less.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me what a person who is at the scene of a protest has to do to appear NOT to be "resisting arrest" after being sprayed in the face with tear gas, punched repeatedly, and pinned down by multiple adult males? Are you supposed to remain motionless like a corpse while being tear gassed, punched, and sat upon?

Asking for me and my friends who will be attending more protests.

If you’re standing in the road and they ask you to move, move. It’s not hard. You have the right to protest, you do not have the right to block the street.

Or else what? You’ll be shot and killed?

That’s not how the law works here. What was so damn urgent they couldn’t just walk away. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

And there’s the problem, you think you’re above the law. What was so damn urgent he couldn’t move to the sidewalk?

lol…I hope that the murderers’ lawyers try to use that in court.

Your Honor, my clients were very butthurt that the victim refused to comply with my illegal orders to cease using his first amendment rights.

Motion to dismiss.

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Anonymous wrote:pretty wild statement re: Republican Chris Madel drop from race for MN governor:

"Saying he cannot support the national GOP's 'stated retribution on citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so."

Is he young enough to run in the next gubernatorial election? If so, it’s another tea leaf that MAGA has run its course.

I think the battle between MAGA and non MAGA candidates is going to be a little more intense this time around.

The clearest sign for everyone missing it is his rightful equation: GOP = MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

Why do people bring a gun to a grocery store? Or a coffee shop? Why are you questioning this?

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

No one doesn't have to wonder. He was attacked and didn't use it. He committed no crime. Hope that clears things up for you!

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Anonymous wrote:pretty wild statement re: Republican Chris Madel drop from race for MN governor:

"Saying he cannot support the national GOP's 'stated retribution on citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so."

Is he young enough to run in the next gubernatorial election? If so, it’s another tea leaf that MAGA has run its course.

You really should read the entire article in the Star Tribune. This is a guy who provide Renee Good's shooter, Jonathan Ross, legal counsel. I think this quote in particular is very telling:

"At the end of the day, Madel said, “I have to look my daughters in the eye and tell them, ‘I believe I did what was right.’ And I am doing that today.”"

https://www.startribune.com/chris-madel-ends-gop-bid-for-governor-says-he-cant-support-federal-retribution-against-minnesota/601570793?utm_source=gift

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

No, one does not have to wonder. It was his constitutional right to bring it and his legal right in Minnesota as a holder of a carry permit.

What other braindead takes do you have? If I don't want to quarter troops in my home would you "have to wonder" what I am hiding that I wouldn't want troops to see? If I want to practice a different religion than you do you "have to wonder" what nefarious things I might be doing at my church?

He was legally allowed to have the firearm, it was holstered and not a threat when ICE thugs assaulted him, and he was illegally murdered after the firearm had already been taken away from him. This is 100% on ICE and 0% on Pretti.

The only thing we "have to wonder" is how someone as stupid as you manages to exist in a society where all the world's information is available right on the very device you're using to publicly profess your ignorance.

MAGAs reorder events in their head to what they want it to be and then try to convince everyone else that reality is fake.

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

How TF was he resisting arrest? He was peppersprayed at point blank range. They could have walked away at that point.

Let me repeat, THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT POINT.

People kill. Not guns.

So now that’s flipped too? I thought we needed gun control because it was the guns that killed people. Liberals are now arguing for the 2nd amendment, blaming people not guns, and white lives matter. What a wild time.

DP. I still want gun control. And I want equal standards applied to everyone with a gun regardless of who they voted for.

And there’s a difference between arguing for the second amendment and using your own words to point out your hypocrisy.

Anonymous wrote:ICE/CBP are responsible for 2/3s of the murders in Minneapolis so far this year.

Exactly. The people of Minneapolis are more likely to be killed by an ICE agent than an undocumented migrant at this point.