Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Toxicity that Capital picked up.
Good riddance
The legacy ‘29 NL parent reputation was quite bad.
Anonymous wrote:You people are nutz or are just maybe really strategic with an audience.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is pretty funny, and the group here and probably other places (the sidelines?) is pretty "committed". 24/7/365. They do speak about having to keep them within arm's length if they do have players/a team of players that they like. Begrudgingly keep the lines of communication open with all the pings they get.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:tell me how any club who's director of recruiting is a senior in college is a threat?
No dog in this fight but this is hilarious.
The parents on this board have some wildly inaccurate perception of the importance of club recruiting directors. They don’t have some magical superpower to get a girl recruited.
I’ve had D1 college coaches tell me they are not impressed with some the club staff held in high esteem on this board.
Ironically, it's the director of team(s) down the list that alert them to a high end player or 2 that might be underscouted that's the most valuable. That's where relationships or trust can help.
Fortunately or unfortunately, there are naive parents that they cater to whose FOMO is easy prey.
I can only speak from experience in saying that Capital's RC helped my daughter understand which coaches were highly interested in her (versus those who just wanted to keep her close in case their tier one lists didn't pan out) during her recruiting summer. Instead of wasting time and money attending camps at schools where she was a second-tier choice, we focused on schools where coaches had her as their top choice. It actually was really helpful and my daughter wound up committing to a top 25 team.
To your point, the RC didn’t have influence on a coach. They were important in planning the approach to recruiting. I believe the previous poster was getting at parents who believe the RC has some ability to magically get players recruited.
A RC can't get a bad player magically recruited to a top school - you're totally right about that. A good recruiting director wouldn't put his / her reputation on the line to even try.
But a good recruiting director can *help* a strong player get noticed if they have strong relationships built on trust and history.
On top ten club teams alone, there are over 250 players vying for just 160 spots (average of 8 per recruiting class which is being generous) on top 20 D1 teams. A good recruiting director with relationships can get those coaches to the sidelines and talk up the great players. The rest is entirely up to the player to perform when the lights are on.
Past Capital teams ranked anywhere from 12-15 have sent girls to crazy schools. Were they great players? Yes. Were there hundreds of other great players all aiming for the same schools? Yes.
Could those Cap players have committed to those same schools on their own? Maybe. Did it help having an advocate on their side who knows these coaches personally put in a good word for them? Absolutely
Where do you think those top 20 coaches are going to be otherwise when top clubs are playing? Barbados? There is a finite number of college coaching positions at top schools. The head coach position anyway can pay pretty good and it's not like they can just jump to another career track easily if it doesn't work out (and they lose). No top college coach in their right mind is getting influenced on taking their very finite recruiting class by a freaking club director.
They are at the fields. They will be watching the top teams. It's the club director's job to field top squads, or as best as they can, so that their players are seen as often as possible and against their competition (for spots).
When your team isn't a top team? THAT's when having some trust will help, becaiuse otherwise coaches won't be showing up or discounting the competition without a word.
The good word is to their character (or not), as a teammate, yada. ALL OTHER EVALUATION on whether they can play is up to the college coach. NOT a freaking club director. But parents eat it up on here, so have at it.
Anonymous wrote:Toxicity that Capital picked up.
Good riddance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Long run I think M&D DC is gonna make Capital irrelevant and even defunct, but agree we are quite a bit out for that happening.
No chance, unless M&D DC becomes the primary team for M&D which isnt likely to happen either .
DC will be just fine. Sorry to disappoint everyone, we lost some families that will be a burden elsewhere. Those families will find out soon enough what they signed up for.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How often do clubs float players up or down between an A/B team setup? Does that ever occur mid-season or would they wait until next tryout?
Your kid is stuck on Orange at least for the year….
You people are nutz or are just maybe really strategic with an audience.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is pretty funny, and the group here and probably other places (the sidelines?) is pretty "committed". 24/7/365. They do speak about having to keep them within arm's length if they do have players/a team of players that they like. Begrudgingly keep the lines of communication open with all the pings they get.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:tell me how any club who's director of recruiting is a senior in college is a threat?
No dog in this fight but this is hilarious.
The parents on this board have some wildly inaccurate perception of the importance of club recruiting directors. They don’t have some magical superpower to get a girl recruited.
I’ve had D1 college coaches tell me they are not impressed with some the club staff held in high esteem on this board.
Ironically, it's the director of team(s) down the list that alert them to a high end player or 2 that might be underscouted that's the most valuable. That's where relationships or trust can help.
Fortunately or unfortunately, there are naive parents that they cater to whose FOMO is easy prey.
I can only speak from experience in saying that Capital's RC helped my daughter understand which coaches were highly interested in her (versus those who just wanted to keep her close in case their tier one lists didn't pan out) during her recruiting summer. Instead of wasting time and money attending camps at schools where she was a second-tier choice, we focused on schools where coaches had her as their top choice. It actually was really helpful and my daughter wound up committing to a top 25 team.
To your point, the RC didn’t have influence on a coach. They were important in planning the approach to recruiting. I believe the previous poster was getting at parents who believe the RC has some ability to magically get players recruited.
A RC can't get a bad player magically recruited to a top school - you're totally right about that. A good recruiting director wouldn't put his / her reputation on the line to even try.
But a good recruiting director can *help* a strong player get noticed if they have strong relationships built on trust and history.
On top ten club teams alone, there are over 250 players vying for just 160 spots (average of 8 per recruiting class which is being generous) on top 20 D1 teams. A good recruiting director with relationships can get those coaches to the sidelines and talk up the great players. The rest is entirely up to the player to perform when the lights are on.
Past Capital teams ranked anywhere from 12-15 have sent girls to crazy schools. Were they great players? Yes. Were there hundreds of other great players all aiming for the same schools? Yes.
Could those Cap players have committed to those same schools on their own? Maybe. Did it help having an advocate on their side who knows these coaches personally put in a good word for them? Absolutely
Anonymous wrote:You know, they could float one up/down as the tokens at any point to make people believe it’s on merit and make the hopefuls join orange with the dream of getting to blue, but you’d have to be that lucky one or, unfortunately, that unlucky one that gets moved down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is pretty funny, and the group here and probably other places (the sidelines?) is pretty "committed". 24/7/365. They do speak about having to keep them within arm's length if they do have players/a team of players that they like. Begrudgingly keep the lines of communication open with all the pings they get.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:tell me how any club who's director of recruiting is a senior in college is a threat?
No dog in this fight but this is hilarious.
The parents on this board have some wildly inaccurate perception of the importance of club recruiting directors. They don’t have some magical superpower to get a girl recruited.
I’ve had D1 college coaches tell me they are not impressed with some the club staff held in high esteem on this board.
Ironically, it's the director of team(s) down the list that alert them to a high end player or 2 that might be underscouted that's the most valuable. That's where relationships or trust can help.
Fortunately or unfortunately, there are naive parents that they cater to whose FOMO is easy prey.
I can only speak from experience in saying that Capital's RC helped my daughter understand which coaches were highly interested in her (versus those who just wanted to keep her close in case their tier one lists didn't pan out) during her recruiting summer. Instead of wasting time and money attending camps at schools where she was a second-tier choice, we focused on schools where coaches had her as their top choice. It actually was really helpful and my daughter wound up committing to a top 25 team.
To your point, the RC didn’t have influence on a coach. They were important in planning the approach to recruiting. I believe the previous poster was getting at parents who believe the RC has some ability to magically get players recruited.
A RC can't get a bad player magically recruited to a top school - you're totally right about that. A good recruiting director wouldn't put his / her reputation on the line to even try.
But a good recruiting director can *help* a strong player get noticed if they have strong relationships built on trust and history.
On top ten club teams alone, there are over 250 players vying for just 160 spots (average of 8 per recruiting class which is being generous) on top 20 D1 teams. A good recruiting director with relationships can get those coaches to the sidelines and talk up the great players. The rest is entirely up to the player to perform when the lights are on.
Past Capital teams ranked anywhere from 12-15 have sent girls to crazy schools. Were they great players? Yes. Were there hundreds of other great players all aiming for the same schools? Yes.
Could those Cap players have committed to those same schools on their own? Maybe. Did it help having an advocate on their side who knows these coaches personally put in a good word for them? Absolutely
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Long run I think M&D DC is gonna make Capital irrelevant and even defunct, but agree we are quite a bit out for that happening.
Same way Pride did?