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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

Blair people seem to have inferiority complex regarding TJ - no need to feel inferior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

Blair people seem to have inferiority complex regarding TJ - no need to feel inferior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

Anonymous wrote: TJ has more highly qualified URMs (AA and Hispanic) now. Ironically, they also have many more white kids who aren't very strong STEM students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

I don't understand how many times you need to hear this, but the FCPS Board doesn't care about that. They made the decision to include students county-wide in the TJ student body and worked to take high achieving students from each middle school. This was not a secret and they have never argued that the ultimate class will be the absolute top students in the county. Broadening access was the goal and they never hid from that. I know many do not like their decision, but please don't treat it as if they said their new process and criteria would result in the class reflecting the identical level of achievements of prior classes. I respect your argument that race was improperly weighted through proxies, but I do not think that reserving a pro rata share of seats for each middle school for admission to a taxpayer funded public school is wrong. Please keep in mind that they reserve seats for other counties and thus aren't necessarily basing decision completely on objective merit of the applicant pool.

They did not want to take high achieving students! Their first proposal was a lottery.

That would've worked out better than the old system that people had completely gamed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

I don't understand how many times you need to hear this, but the FCPS Board doesn't care about that. They made the decision to include students county-wide in the TJ student body and worked to take high achieving students from each middle school. This was not a secret and they have never argued that the ultimate class will be the absolute top students in the county. Broadening access was the goal and they never hid from that. I know many do not like their decision, but please don't treat it as if they said their new process and criteria would result in the class reflecting the identical level of achievements of prior classes. I respect your argument that race was improperly weighted through proxies, but I do not think that reserving a pro rata share of seats for each middle school for admission to a taxpayer funded public school is wrong. Please keep in mind that they reserve seats for other counties and thus aren't necessarily basing decision completely on objective merit of the applicant pool.

They did not want to take high achieving students! Their first proposal was a lottery.

And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

I don't understand how many times you need to hear this, but the FCPS Board doesn't care about that. They made the decision to include students county-wide in the TJ student body and worked to take high achieving students from each middle school. This was not a secret and they have never argued that the ultimate class will be the absolute top students in the county. Broadening access was the goal and they never hid from that. I know many do not like their decision, but please don't treat it as if they said their new process and criteria would result in the class reflecting the identical level of achievements of prior classes. I respect your argument that race was improperly weighted through proxies, but I do not think that reserving a pro rata share of seats for each middle school for admission to a taxpayer funded public school is wrong. Please keep in mind that they reserve seats for other counties and thus aren't necessarily basing decision completely on objective merit of the applicant pool.

They did not want to take high achieving students! Their first proposal was a lottery.

Anonymous wrote:TJ has more highly qualified URMs (AA and Hispanic) now. Ironically, they also have many more white kids who aren't very strong STEM students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

I don't understand how many times you need to hear this, but the FCPS Board doesn't care about that. They made the decision to include students county-wide in the TJ student body and worked to take high achieving students from each middle school. This was not a secret and they have never argued that the ultimate class will be the absolute top students in the county. Broadening access was the goal and they never hid from that. I know many do not like their decision, but please don't treat it as if they said their new process and criteria would result in the class reflecting the identical level of achievements of prior classes. I respect your argument that race was improperly weighted through proxies, but I do not think that reserving a pro rata share of seats for each middle school for admission to a taxpayer funded public school is wrong. Please keep in mind that they reserve seats for other counties and thus aren't necessarily basing decision completely on objective merit of the applicant pool.

They did not want to take high achieving students! Their first proposal was a lottery.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

I don't understand how many times you need to hear this, but the FCPS Board doesn't care about that. They made the decision to include students county-wide in the TJ student body and worked to take high achieving students from each middle school. This was not a secret and they have never argued that the ultimate class will be the absolute top students in the county. Broadening access was the goal and they never hid from that. I know many do not like their decision, but please don't treat it as if they said their new process and criteria would result in the class reflecting the identical level of achievements of prior classes. I respect your argument that race was improperly weighted through proxies, but I do not think that reserving a pro rata share of seats for each middle school for admission to a taxpayer funded public school is wrong. Please keep in mind that they reserve seats for other counties and thus aren't necessarily basing decision completely on objective merit of the applicant pool.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

I don't understand how many times you need to hear this, but the FCPS Board doesn't care about that. They made the decision to include students county-wide in the TJ student body and worked to take high achieving students from each middle school. This was not a secret and they have never argued that the ultimate class will be the absolute top students in the county. Broadening access was the goal and they never hid from that. I know many do not like their decision, but please don't treat it as if they said their new process and criteria would result in the class reflecting the identical level of achievements of prior classes. I respect your argument that race was improperly weighted through proxies, but I do not think that reserving a pro rata share of seats for each middle school for admission to a taxpayer funded public school is wrong. Please keep in mind that they reserve seats for other counties and thus aren't necessarily basing decision completely on objective merit of the applicant pool.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.