Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 18:49     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.


Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.


Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?


Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 18:19     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.


Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.


Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 17:59     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.


Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 17:25     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 14:22     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
The problem here is that people are conflating immigration with playing football. They are related but very different. If you have a valid reason to live in a country, you can play football there locally 100 percent at a local club. Where there is a problem is when pro clubs get involved. That is where FIFA really monitors the player movement at young ages because there is so much money at stake.al. So, you can't just show up with a EU passport and play at a pro academy unless you fall in some of the exceptions, under the age of 18.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 13:59     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


I was born in Spain but lived in the US most of my adult life. My kids are US citizens but they both have Spanish passports. If in the next couple of years I decide to move back to Spain. No job offer, just move because I want too. My kids will need permission to play there? They are 9 and 12.


No because you and they have Spanish passports. If you move to a different country than Spain, yes, you’ll need to show a non-soccer related reason why you’re in that non-Spanish country


Wrong. It is an international transfer. US to Spain and the FIFA international transfer rules apply. Unless the kid has never player football anywhere. First registration in Spain is possible in this scenario with just the passport. What makes it an international transfer is the soccer federation you're coming from.not your passport. If you are coming from the Spanish federation with a Spanish passport no problem there.


You could play locally in Spain right away in this scenario. But at a pro.club. No.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 13:55     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are talking.ablut when Americans transfer abroad AS YOUTH PLAYRTS. Man, you did all that homework trying to learn about free transfers for nothing. Too bad...


So European clubs take free transfer Americans who aren't good just because they're free
But the Europeans who are free transfer are good?



Like was said in a PP. Before USSF and MLS agreed to FIFA rules on transfer of players, meaning getting paid for them and their training, European clubs were taking youth players from.the us for FREE because they couldn't get youth players completely free in their own countries and from other countries because they all wanted money, especially training compensation. That has now stopped. Once a player is 18 and they are out of contract can they move for free, of course. That is obvious. What the European clubs were trying to do was take the best US talent and lock them up contractually early as youth players so they could get paid from the USSFs ignorance and stupidity about transfer rules. This is exactly.why the USSF agreed to the FIFA rules in 2022 because they lost so much money on the sale of pulisic, McKinnie, reyna etc. US clubs didn't get a.dime for those sales and that was a shame but fair play to the German clubs that locked them up unencumbered.

European players who are transferring for free also carry training compensation fees which aren't reflected publicly. And those fees are significant coming from European pro academiss. 20k-60k per year a kid was in the academy depending on the grade of the academy. Remember USSF was not demanding training comp or solidarity payments for anyone untill three years ago. This was a game changer for overseas clubs because the players were Completely free from the us before then. Why they were getting a lot of opportunities at younger ages.

Take Weston Mckinnie for instance. If an equivalent number 6 from.say SC Freiburg who spent 4 years in the academy, the same.amount of time.Mckinnie spent in FC Dallas, the actual transfer would be free for both. But training comp of close to six figures would.be owed for the player from.sc Freiburg.who would you take if the skills were close. That is the argument. At youth ages.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 13:36     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


I was born in Spain but lived in the US most of my adult life. My kids are US citizens but they both have Spanish passports. If in the next couple of years I decide to move back to Spain. No job offer, just move because I want too. My kids will need permission to play there? They are 9 and 12.


No because you and they have Spanish passports. If you move to a different country than Spain, yes, you’ll need to show a non-soccer related reason why you’re in that non-Spanish country


Wrong. It is an international transfer. US to Spain and the FIFA international transfer rules apply. Unless the kid has never player football anywhere. First registration in Spain is possible in this scenario with just the passport. What makes it an international transfer is the soccer federation you're coming from.not your passport. If you are coming from the Spanish federation with a Spanish passport no problem there.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 13:32     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


For a non-soccer REASON (not passport)


Essentially correct
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 13:31     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How difficult is it to justify you are moving for non-soccer related reasons? Isn’t having a European passport reason enough?


No having a European passport is not enough. You need to show FIFA that you have a job in the country or a significant Nexus to the country requiring you to be there. If you have a job they will require documentation of that job ie the contract and the terms. It is not that easy actually. If you don't have a job it is extremely difficult.


This is not true. Having European citizenship is absolutely enough. Show us how that’s not true with sources or don’t say it.


You don't know what you're talking about, clearly. I've done this so I don't care whether you believe it or not. You haven't done it that is for sure.

Show up at any professional academy with just an EU passport under the age of 16 coming from the US and you will be in for a rude awakening. The only way to get around it is to move to the country, because you have the passport, sign up to a local club (non professional) and play there for six -ti nine months (a season). But that essentially satisfies the moving for non football related reasons exception. FIFA doesn't care about local club football.

Can you show up in the country and move there because you have a valid passport, for sure. Those are immigration rules. Playing football is governed by FIFA and FIFA rules apply to step on the field. Completely separate from immigration and more stringent by design to protect minors.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/620d0240c40944ed/original/Regulations-on-the-Status-and-Transfer-of-Players-October-2022-edition.pdf

That is FIFAs full rules on the transfer of ALL players including minors. Article VII section 19 pages 34-39 governs minor transfers. Pretty clear and unambiguous. If your transfer doesn't fall within these guidelines it won't happen. .Period. But if you want to try, be my guest. Just wasting your time.

Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 10:25     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


For a non-soccer REASON (not passport)
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 10:25     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


I was born in Spain but lived in the US most of my adult life. My kids are US citizens but they both have Spanish passports. If in the next couple of years I decide to move back to Spain. No job offer, just move because I want too. My kids will need permission to play there? They are 9 and 12.


No because you and they have Spanish passports. If you move to a different country than Spain, yes, you’ll need to show a non-soccer related reason why you’re in that non-Spanish country
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 10:23     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


According to this that should be a very easy https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

I was born in Spain but lived in the US most of my adult life. My kids are US citizens but they both have Spanish passports. If in the next couple of years I decide to move back to Spain. No job offer, just move because I want too. My kids will need permission to play there? They are 9 and 12.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 10:19     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.


I was born in Spain but lived in the US most of my adult life. My kids are US citizens but they both have Spanish passports. If in the next couple of years I decide to move back to Spain. No job offer, just move because I want too. My kids will need permission to play there? They are 9 and 12.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2025 09:56     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down
Ignore the troll guys.

FIFA rules re minor transfers:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/2130eb84c31cf4e4/original/lb2t6bqgmi2a1x1pr5xs-pdf.pdf

My interpretation is that of course an EU passport allows you to go to Europe at any age. However, before 16, you’re generally limited to the country of your passport for purposes of playing soccer UNLESS you’re in another EU country for a non-soccer passport.