Anonymous
Post 09/19/2022 18:31     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2022 17:13     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2022 11:16     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.


Hate to break it to you but TJ is a rare exception not the rule. American middle school science classes are sub-par to put it mildly compared to Asian and European countries.


You are correct with respect to the course material but you are incorrect with respect to the functional approach. Asian and European students spend far more time reading about science while American students spend far more time actually doing science.


Are you from Asia? Or from Europe? Or both?


Europe, and yes, I have more than enough experience to be able to speak on this question.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2022 07:51     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to get a summary of scores for all applicants, to know how much of an impact was the meals question?


The meals question helped them detoxify the applicant pool by identifying the less desirable elements who are prone to cheating.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2022 00:21     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.


Hate to break it to you but TJ is a rare exception not the rule. American middle school science classes are sub-par to put it mildly compared to Asian and European countries.


You are correct with respect to the course material but you are incorrect with respect to the functional approach. Asian and European students spend far more time reading about science while American students spend far more time actually doing science.


Are you from Asia? Or from Europe? Or both?


Or have any experience in a mainstream science classroom in America outside of the DMV...
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 20:34     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Is there a way to get a summary of scores for all applicants, to know how much of an impact was the meals question?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 20:33     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Is there a final count on how many kids had admissions withdrawn over meals questions?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 14:24     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.


Hate to break it to you but TJ is a rare exception not the rule. American middle school science classes are sub-par to put it mildly compared to Asian and European countries.


You are correct with respect to the course material but you are incorrect with respect to the functional approach. Asian and European students spend far more time reading about science while American students spend far more time actually doing science.


Are you from Asia? Or from Europe? Or both?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 11:37     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.


Hate to break it to you but TJ is a rare exception not the rule. American middle school science classes are sub-par to put it mildly compared to Asian and European countries.


You are correct with respect to the course material but you are incorrect with respect to the functional approach. Asian and European students spend far more time reading about science while American students spend far more time actually doing science.


If the middle schools had any money - my kid's middle school didn't have any money for "actually doing science".
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 10:55     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.


Hate to break it to you but TJ is a rare exception not the rule. American middle school science classes are sub-par to put it mildly compared to Asian and European countries.


You are correct with respect to the course material but you are incorrect with respect to the functional approach. Asian and European students spend far more time reading about science while American students spend far more time actually doing science.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 09:19     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.


Hate to break it to you but TJ is a rare exception not the rule. American middle school science classes are sub-par to put it mildly compared to Asian and European countries.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2022 19:08     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.


What do you think I said? My post REPLIED to a course that disparaged American middle school science classes by EMPHASIZING that America does better with hands-on science.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2022 11:49     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.


Too bad for you, TJ is known world wide for their "scientific method and experimental processes", in fact, education ministers and other top researchers in education from foreign countries regularly visit TJ to learn TJ's way of teaching including their "IBET" program which emphasizes research, RS and scientific writing skills and their senior year research projects implemented through their various research labs.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2022 22:03     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses. Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


This is not quite true.

When it comes to rote memorization of systems and book knowledge, you probably have a point. But the Western education system (and America in particular) does a far better job with the scientific method and experimental processes.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2022 15:49     Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My point still stands

Its an Advanced STEM school, if you are taking Algebra I in 8th

1. You aren't advanced
2. The base high school can cover everything


1. You might still be advanced in other STEM areas if you’re not advanced in math
2. TJ doesn’t exist solely to offer advanced courses in math


Other stem courses are not yet offered yet in middle schools. Math therefore is a good indicator of how ready you are at TJ.


AP Science courses at base HS are often not great and not even comparable to non- AP TJ courses.

Middle school science courses are at elementary school level when compared to European countries and East Asian countries.


I’m the PP. This is exactly what I meant about MS science course. I do have a middle schooler.