Anonymous
Post 11/06/2022 10:09     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.


Heard this guy on the politico podcast. wonder if hes going to admit his misplaced optimism after the bloodbath on tuesday


Or…the left is up to something and is planting these pollsters so if they succeed, the results look possible.

He’s not a pollster.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2022 10:03     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Are there any non-biased folk on here that can give me a fully non partisan guess with sound reasoning as to who will win? I’m an Italian and don’t care about American politics but I love gambling so I want to place some bets.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2022 07:26     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.

+1 I'm embarrassed for PP.

His Twitter bio:
NDN, DNC, DCCC, Clinton War Room, New Dems, ABC News | Anti-MAGA | Tufts, Aspen Crown Fellow | 30 yrs in the fight | Slava Ukraini | Vote Early!

Yea, a real unbiased source

Yet you don’t engage with his data, just a personal attack.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2022 02:50     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Iowa is in play.

I don't understand the GOP optimism.


Cite? I’d love it, but would like to see a poll or something.


Here it is......



Butttt… they haven’t counted all the mail in votes yet…..
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 23:48     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.


Heard this guy on the politico podcast. wonder if hes going to admit his misplaced optimism after the bloodbath on tuesday

Do you commit to waiting until all votes are counted before declaring victory? Of will you scream Stop
The Count!
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 23:42     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.


Heard this guy on the politico podcast. wonder if hes going to admit his misplaced optimism after the bloodbath on tuesday
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 20:42     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.

+1 I'm embarrassed for PP.

His Twitter bio:
NDN, DNC, DCCC, Clinton War Room, New Dems, ABC News | Anti-MAGA | Tufts, Aspen Crown Fellow | 30 yrs in the fight | Slava Ukraini | Vote Early!

Yea, a real unbiased source
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 20:33     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.

You think that the vote is irrelevant?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 20:03     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:There may be a red wave but currently not.



Simon Rosenberg, the King of irrelevant counting statistics.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 19:33     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Iowa is in play.

I don't understand the GOP optimism.


Cite? I’d love it, but would like to see a poll or something.


Here it is......

Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 19:05     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

There may be a red wave but currently not.

Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 10:42     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….


The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.


Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!! This is truly bizarre the GOP set the agenda and Dems end up defending themselves and following the GOP in nonsensical stuff. Some people think that Dems don’t know how to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and that they put too much emphasize on cultural topics that don’t even affect the vast majority of Americans. But I think that’s just another GOP playbook defining Dems this way.

Dems need to step up their political game.


Your entire post is spot on, but I wanted to highlight this in particular. It's really disappointing that Democrats have allowed Republicans to create and run with this narrative, when Republicans have absolutely nothing to offer voters besides contrived culture war wedge issues (trans agenda!! CRT!! grooming!!).

I would argue that Democrats are actually pretty great at explaining their take on the actual issues; listen to Liz Warren explain literally any of her policies, or for a more lightning rod take, listen to AOC. Listen to Katie Porter, or Swalwell or just about any Democrat. They’re clear, they’re concise, they explain how the Democrats will help people.

It just get drowned out the bullsht hose that the GOP floods the zone with.


You don't get it, do you?

We absolutely get their "take" on issues. WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING!!

You don’t get their take because you’ve never listened. And read the thread. The charge was that Democrats can’t explain themselves. Thy can; Republicans just drown them out so no one can hear.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 10:35     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….


The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.


Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!! This is truly bizarre the GOP set the agenda and Dems end up defending themselves and following the GOP in nonsensical stuff. Some people think that Dems don’t know how to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and that they put too much emphasize on cultural topics that don’t even affect the vast majority of Americans. But I think that’s just another GOP playbook defining Dems this way.

Dems need to step up their political game.


Your entire post is spot on, but I wanted to highlight this in particular. It's really disappointing that Democrats have allowed Republicans to create and run with this narrative, when Republicans have absolutely nothing to offer voters besides contrived culture war wedge issues (trans agenda!! CRT!! grooming!!).

I would argue that Democrats are actually pretty great at explaining their take on the actual issues; listen to Liz Warren explain literally any of her policies, or for a more lightning rod take, listen to AOC. Listen to Katie Porter, or Swalwell or just about any Democrat. They’re clear, they’re concise, they explain how the Democrats will help people.

It just get drowned out the bullsht hose that the GOP floods the zone with.


You don't get it, do you?

We absolutely get their "take" on issues. WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING!!
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 19:16     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!!
Dems need to step up their political game.


Bobby Flay was on CNN talking about how restaurants are doing and that this reflects the true state of the economy. Prices for supplies going up and people having less money to spend on restaurants, particularly as they charge more money to make up for the increase in costs.

Just because there was some government spending and export of weapons to Ukraine, both of which increase the GDP number, does not make the economy strong. Consumer spending and business investment were -.6% in the GDP number.

Restaurants are a luxury, not a necessity.


They also employ a lot of Americans

Who are paid terribly by the owners.


Start a business and pay them whatever you want.

Why should I? I have a good job. I don’t go to restaurants because I don’t see the value anymore.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 18:51     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!!
Dems need to step up their political game.


Bobby Flay was on CNN talking about how restaurants are doing and that this reflects the true state of the economy. Prices for supplies going up and people having less money to spend on restaurants, particularly as they charge more money to make up for the increase in costs.

Just because there was some government spending and export of weapons to Ukraine, both of which increase the GDP number, does not make the economy strong. Consumer spending and business investment were -.6% in the GDP number.

Restaurants are a luxury, not a necessity.


They also employ a lot of Americans

Who are paid terribly by the owners.


Start a business and pay them whatever you want.