Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:37
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is at fault. The reality is that living life comes with risk. 52 million people visit Disney every year. At one gator accident every 30 years, that is less than a one in a billion chance.
If people lived their lives to prevent a one in a billion chance of a tragedy, then they wouldn't be able to do anything. The risk that a branch will fall from a tree while you walk on a sidewalk is greater than the risk of this happening. The risk of being killed in a car crash going to and from Disney is more than a thousand times greater. The risk of choking on the food you buy at Disney or drowning in the pool or tripping on the stairs of the hotel -- all greater.
The fact is that everything you do carries a risk. Some risks are substantial enough to worry about and judge some one if they aren't careful (although even then, I wouldn't publicly judge someone who had just lost a child) but this was not one of them.
You are way too rational to be posting on this board.
Totally, you must not be from the DC area!
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:36
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is at fault. The reality is that living life comes with risk. 52 million people visit Disney every year. At one gator accident every 30 years, that is less than a one in a billion chance.
If people lived their lives to prevent a one in a billion chance of a tragedy, then they wouldn't be able to do anything. The risk that a branch will fall from a tree while you walk on a sidewalk is greater than the risk of this happening. The risk of being killed in a car crash going to and from Disney is more than a thousand times greater. The risk of choking on the food you buy at Disney or drowning in the pool or tripping on the stairs of the hotel -- all greater.
The fact is that everything you do carries a risk. Some risks are substantial enough to worry about and judge some one if they aren't careful (although even then, I wouldn't publicly judge someone who had just lost a child) but this was not one of them.
You are way too rational to be posting on this board.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:32
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those of you saying Disney won't lose business. I know 3 families who have already canceled their trips.
I don't believe this for one minute. Unless, of course, it was three families who were discussing going together and have since decided on something else instead.
Well, it seems pretty packed here to me.
And when we stopped at the grand Floridian, it was also packed.
These people were at Disney or on their way when the tragedy happened. When they get home and read, they'll be horrified.
It's not North Korea. People currently at Disney know about this incident.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:31
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My sense is that they got lazy/ complacent about their removal efforts. Probably never thought it would happen. Disney is done.
Lol, sure. There were plenty of people on this very thread saying they're still going next week/later this year. It's not done and plenty of people still recognize that ONE alligator death out of millions of visitors over 40 years means you're still SUPER SAFE from alligators at Disney. You're as safe from them there as you are any other place in Florida. This was an anomaly. It's not putting Disney out of business. They will pay the family $20 mil and put up new signs. The world spins on.
Nope. If this gets to a jury, the jury will return a $500 billion verdict. This would be a meritorious lawsuit if there ever was one. Disney knows this. The settlement offer will have to be more like $300 million. That they knew about alligators per the San Diego lawyer and did not prevent this is sickening.
Plaintiff's attorney here. This case probably has a $6 million value max. Initial offer will probably be around $1 million. Anything north of $3 and the client will probably take it.
Plaintiff's attorney again, and I need to add that $6 million won't even touch Disney's profits. Star Wars: the Force Awakens grossed over $2 billion dollars. The production budget was $245 million. This settlement will just be a blip on Disney's financial books.
Good points!
There is a person on another thread that keeps arguing Disney can't afford to fence all the lakes on their property. I mean, come one. They could fence all the lakes on their entire property with what they make in one day from the Grand Floridian alone and not miss a drop of that money or notice that it is gone.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:27
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully some cast members who knew and did nothing lose their jobs as well.
Cast members can't really do anything but report to superiors.
The punishment should go much higher than cast members.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:24
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My sense is that they got lazy/ complacent about their removal efforts. Probably never thought it would happen. Disney is done.
Lol, sure. There were plenty of people on this very thread saying they're still going next week/later this year. It's not done and plenty of people still recognize that ONE alligator death out of millions of visitors over 40 years means you're still SUPER SAFE from alligators at Disney. You're as safe from them there as you are any other place in Florida. This was an anomaly. It's not putting Disney out of business. They will pay the family $20 mil and put up new signs. The world spins on.
Nope. If this gets to a jury, the jury will return a $500 billion verdict. This would be a meritorious lawsuit if there ever was one. Disney knows this. The settlement offer will have to be more like $300 million. That they knew about alligators per the San Diego lawyer and did not prevent this is sickening.
Yes a horrific thing has happened. However, people will continue to go to Disney World with more alligator awareness now. The public has also learned that sometimes snakes get into swimming pools and that there are drownings and ride injuries, too.
Disney World has a very good track record and if they were giving out free trips, I would accept a voucher along with millions of other people.
Hopefully, the grieving parents will accept a generous settlement award from Disney but not $300 million. Seriously?
Disney has some liability but a two year old should not have been in that dark water at night, either.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:18
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those of you saying Disney won't lose business. I know 3 families who have already canceled their trips.
I don't believe this for one minute. Unless, of course, it was three families who were discussing going together and have since decided on something else instead.
Well, it seems pretty packed here to me.
And when we stopped at the grand Floridian, it was also packed.
These people were at Disney or on their way when the tragedy happened. When they get home and read, they'll be horrified.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:15
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Agree that Floridians are blah about alligators. Our whole family was in the water and we saw a very large alligator (another place, the Weeki) The staff REALLY did not care, They would not have even cleared the swimming area except we made such a fuss about it. We have been to Disney several times and stood on that very beach -- we did not think about alligators once. Disney is a very tiring vacation -- you are just not thinking about danger from wildlife at Disney. Before this happened if you said you were worried you would be eaten by an alligator at Disney, people would think you were making a joke. A once in 2.4 million chance. But Disney knew that the gator was there and that people had been feeding it ...
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:14
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disney has installed a temporary fence to keep people out of the water and will likely be redesigning and rebuilding the whole beach area. They are responding to the tragedy, not ignoring it.
Because contrary to what people want to suggest, Disney is incredibly family friendly and safety conscious.
Because they have to!!!!!! Not because they want to.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:10
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those of you saying Disney won't lose business. I know 3 families who have already canceled their trips.
I don't believe this for one minute. Unless, of course, it was three families who were discussing going together and have since decided on something else instead.
Well, it seems pretty packed here to me.
And when we stopped at the grand Floridian, it was also packed.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:06
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Disney has installed a temporary fence to keep people out of the water and will likely be redesigning and rebuilding the whole beach area. They are responding to the tragedy, not ignoring it.
Because contrary to what people want to suggest, Disney is incredibly family friendly and safety conscious.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:04
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Disney has installed a temporary fence to keep people out of the water and will likely be redesigning and rebuilding the whole beach area. They are responding to the tragedy, not ignoring it.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:02
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My sense is that they got lazy/ complacent about their removal efforts. Probably never thought it would happen. Disney is done.
Lol, sure. There were plenty of people on this very thread saying they're still going next week/later this year. It's not done and plenty of people still recognize that ONE alligator death out of millions of visitors over 40 years means you're still SUPER SAFE from alligators at Disney. You're as safe from them there as you are any other place in Florida. This was an anomaly. It's not putting Disney out of business. They will pay the family $20 mil and put up new signs. The world spins on.
Nope. If this gets to a jury, the jury will return a $500 billion verdict. This would be a meritorious lawsuit if there ever was one. Disney knows this. The settlement offer will have to be more like $300 million. That they knew about alligators per the San Diego lawyer and did not prevent this is sickening.
Plaintiff's attorney here. This case probably has a $6 million value max. Initial offer will probably be around $1 million. Anything north of $3 and the client will probably take it.
Plaintiff's attorney again, and I need to add that $6 million won't even touch Disney's profits. Star Wars: the Force Awakens grossed over $2 billion dollars. The production budget was $245 million. This settlement will just be a blip on Disney's financial books.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:01
Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:I would like to add. Since moving to Orlando, I've learned so much about what a hold Disney/tourism has one local government. Year around school was banned so high schoolers could work at theme parks in the summer. It's kind of sick.
They have the same rule here in Virginia. Our amusement park is nowhere near as big as Disney, but it's still big.
Anonymous
06/18/2016 09:00
Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My sense is that they got lazy/ complacent about their removal efforts. Probably never thought it would happen. Disney is done.
Lol, sure. There were plenty of people on this very thread saying they're still going next week/later this year. It's not done and plenty of people still recognize that ONE alligator death out of millions of visitors over 40 years means you're still SUPER SAFE from alligators at Disney. You're as safe from them there as you are any other place in Florida. This was an anomaly. It's not putting Disney out of business. They will pay the family $20 mil and put up new signs. The world spins on.
Nope. If this gets to a jury, the jury will return a $500 billion verdict. This would be a meritorious lawsuit if there ever was one. Disney knows this. The settlement offer will have to be more like $300 million. That they knew about alligators per the San Diego lawyer and did not prevent this is sickening.
Plaintiff's attorney here. This case probably has a $6 million value max. Initial offer will probably be around $1 million. Anything north of $3 and the client will probably take it.