Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 16:07     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


You have a country in mind? Some do, but most can't stay indefinitely in another country.


Yeah I have a second passport for an eu country & open ended Permanent residency for a third option not in nato .


You are right. You don't have much in common with most. You should leave if economic advantage is what your life is all about. We will remember that you left.


I mean in my neighborhood — I see two houses with trump sjmifns and pick up trucks with truck nuts.

Then there is an Arab family.

Then there is a group house with a bunch of odd hipster types.

You look at the Ukraine pics and everyone seems normal and has lots in common with each other.



Would you prefer the homogeneity of the 19th century?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 16:06     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

It's time that Congress seeks the transcripts of the calls Biden has had with Zelenskyy.......




"President Biden said very clearly ... that any negotiations, any decisions that concern Ukraine, cannot be taken without Ukraine," Zelenskiy chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, told the 1+1 TV channel.

"President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members."
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:58     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they just surrender, it would
save lives and bloodshed. They are overpowered and outnumbered.


Because this is their homeland. They do not want to be ruled by a tyrant.
You must not understand that for many people, freedom is worth sacrificing one's life.


Well, the person you are responding to likely has tantrums around the freedom not to wear a mask during a pandemic, not understanding what ACTUAL freedom entails.

I mean, the patriots to the PP are the people who attacked the Capitol, whereas in Uktraine, the patriots in Ukraine are DEFENDING the capital.


It does sort of make one realize just how stupid and silly the US has become (Yes I’m pointing at you Trump and Koch acolytes and anyone courting totalitarianism and the unwitting fools caught up in it all)

Ukrainian grandmas armed and ready to give their lives to defend their country and families facing an actual real danger willing to defend their democracy and country. And normal Citizens in Russia willing to go to jail or worse living under a dictator but still protesting what their government, and not a swastika in sight. Really really brings home how absolutely stupid the right wing nuts in this country have become and how they are trying to drag good and decent people lives down. It also can’t help but be reminded of the images from Jan 6 from the capital that were beamed around the world. What a contrast. Wow!

Ugh with your stupid butt hurt wah I don’t want to wear a mask and you can’t make me, ban books that run counter to my personal beliefs, grievances and your stupid sons taking your families weapons stash to movie theaters and kindergarten classrooms to shoot up little kids.

Well guess what this is what it looks like when you get what you want. This doesn’t end well for Ukraine but it really really doesn’t end well for Putin. Stop your histrionics. Button up and get it together. Sniveling fools. You are collectively sick and this country would be so much better off without you.

Rant over.


Yes!!!!!


I love you PP!!!!
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:58     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


You have a country in mind? Some do, but most can't stay indefinitely in another country.


Yeah I have a second passport for an eu country & open ended Permanent residency for a third option not in nato .


You are right. You don't have much in common with most. You should leave if economic advantage is what your life is all about. We will remember that you left.


I mean in my neighborhood — I see two houses with trump sjmifns and pick up trucks with truck nuts.

Then there is an Arab family.

Then there is a group house with a bunch of odd hipster types.

You look at the Ukraine pics and everyone seems normal and has lots in common with each other.



You don’t understand America then.


I understand it well enough — Excellent capital markets with deep liquidity.

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:56     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


You have a country in mind? Some do, but most can't stay indefinitely in another country.


Yeah I have a second passport for an eu country & open ended Permanent residency for a third option not in nato .


You are right. You don't have much in common with most. You should leave if economic advantage is what your life is all about. We will remember that you left.


I mean in my neighborhood — I see two houses with trump sjmifns and pick up trucks with truck nuts.

Then there is an Arab family.

Then there is a group house with a bunch of odd hipster types.

You look at the Ukraine pics and everyone seems normal and has lots in common with each other.



You don’t understand America then.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:52     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.


What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



The West needs to place economic and financial sanctions on all the authoritarian/oligarch kleptocracy countries and shut down the money laundering operations in the US and Western Europe.


….that isn’t enough.

Disband Russian military. Re-education for Russians. Moscow becomes nato administered between us/France/uk+ukraine

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:50     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Good riddance, coward
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:50     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they just surrender, it would
save lives and bloodshed. They are overpowered and outnumbered.


Because they love their country and don't want to live under a Russian propped authoriarian regime.


If George Washington, when he was outnumbered, had given up, the US would not exist. You sound like someone who gives up when things are “hard.” Every Ukrainian fighting for their freedom from a sociopath is braver than you.

🇺🇦 🇺🇦 <This is the flag of Ukraine, since you probably don’t know that.


To be fair the us revolution was probably not a good thing.

Would’ve been better to gain independence naturally like Canada. The us would be way more Canadian
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:48     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


You have a country in mind? Some do, but most can't stay indefinitely in another country.


Yeah I have a second passport for an eu country & open ended Permanent residency for a third option not in nato .


You are right. You don't have much in common with most. You should leave if economic advantage is what your life is all about. We will remember that you left.


I mean in my neighborhood — I see two houses with trump sjmifns and pick up trucks with truck nuts.

Then there is an Arab family.

Then there is a group house with a bunch of odd hipster types.

You look at the Ukraine pics and everyone seems normal and has lots in common with each other.

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:47     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


You have a country in mind? Some do, but most can't stay indefinitely in another country.


Yeah I have a second passport for an eu country & open ended Permanent residency for a third option not in nato .


You are right. You don't have much in common with most. You should leave if economic advantage is what your life is all about. We will remember that you left.


+1 Go away.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:45     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they just surrender, it would
save lives and bloodshed. They are overpowered and outnumbered.


Because they love their country and don't want to live under a Russian propped authoriarian regime.


If George Washington, when he was outnumbered, had given up, the US would not exist. You sound like someone who gives up when things are “hard.” Every Ukrainian fighting for their freedom from a sociopath is braver than you.

🇺🇦 🇺🇦 <This is the flag of Ukraine, since you probably don’t know that.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:45     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







Wishful thinking. Russia won’t retreat.


They did in Afghanistan. They recalled their puppet from Ukraine in 2014. So, yes, they do retreat.


10 years.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:43     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


You have a country in mind? Some do, but most can't stay indefinitely in another country.


Yeah I have a second passport for an eu country & open ended Permanent residency for a third option not in nato .


You are right. You don't have much in common with most. You should leave if economic advantage is what your life is all about. We will remember that you left.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:42     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.


What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



The West needs to place economic and financial sanctions on all the authoritarian/oligarch kleptocracy countries and shut down the money laundering operations in the US and Western Europe.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:41     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.


You would suddenly find common ground if Russia were attacking.


Nah, I’d fly out to another country well in advance.


Well why wait?