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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

+1 Sounds like a plan.

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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

Anonymous wrote:There is difference between concern/tactics what might happen, and trully wish what will happen.

You can defend for you neighbor, I can trust my other crossfield neighbor ALL wishing it will not happen.

Crossfield family here, we may not be your neighbor (we don't live in Franklin Farm), but we and several of our neighbors want to go to Western. It's closer and when our kids start driving, it will be much safer and basically a straight shot to get there.

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Anonymous wrote:For crossfield, it is different.

BOTH kids and parents want to stay at Oakton for the majority.

Middle school and high school kids, or those with older siblings. Younger kids love the idea of a fancy new school with a swimming pool! My 5th and 7th graders want to go to Western.

I'm pretty sure that all the older kids at all the schools would rather stay with the current assignment. That is kind of normal. That is not the way this works, though.

I just don't understand why Reid is orchestrating this in the way she is.

Anonymous wrote:For crossfield, it is different.

BOTH kids and parents want to stay at Oakton for the majority.

Middle school and high school kids, or those with older siblings. Younger kids love the idea of a fancy new school with a swimming pool! My 5th and 7th graders want to go to Western.

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense.

+1

Look. Everyone has ideas about what should happen. But, there has to be some sort of objective decision. That seems terribly lacking in this process.

There are certain things that then SB should consider:

1. It would appear that most people prefer AP over IB. So, why is it assigned to certain schools --not because the in boundary people want it--but because a SB thought it was a good idea? This is NOT equity. Having to provide transportation keeps some people from opting into another school.
In fact, I'd love to see the breakdown of which students are achieving the diploma at IB schools. Is it the in-boundary or the "opt-ins."
I'd also like to see the Pupil Placement statistics based on the reason given for the transfer. What proportion of those kids that PP for IB secure the IB diploma vs the in boundary students.

2. Proximity is an objective measure. Desiring to keep your boundary is not.

3. Schools that are crowded-or soon expected to be overcrowded--is an objective reason to redistribute those students.

When you make your arguments, you should use valid, objective measures.

Crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Using the opt-in data is NOT listening to the loudest voices.

It’s a very imprecise reading of tea leaves as opposed to actually putting on their big boy pants and making a principled decision.

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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Using the opt-in data is NOT listening to the loudest voices.

[quote=Anonymous]Some Fox Mill parents want to leave SLHS so bad, and hate crossfield, want to send crossfield to SLHS.

Reality is only Fox Mill parents want to leave SLHS, kids would rather stay at SLHS with their peers and communities and IB.

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You are crazy.

Honestly, we have the opt-in choice and my family is opting in. My kid will end up at the new school because that is where we want him. If the school as a whole is moved to the new school, great. If it’s not, kids who want to go there will be able to pupil place. I know where my kid is going, I’ll let other families make choices that work for them.

The school board has messed this entire thing up by being indecisive and having their priorities out of whack. The boundary review should have been adjusted as soon as they bought the new school to include the new school. That alone would have addressed some of the bigger issues that needed to be addressed in the boundary review. No idea why they have taken this ridiculous approach. I suspect that Meren is worried about too many of her constituents being moved at once and the impact on her pyramid so she is a large part of the problem.

People should be able to advocate for what they want without treating the process as a gladiator fight and trying to kill the other opponent to get what you want. The process has been ugly because of the way the school board set it up, trying to avoid being blamed for unpopular but hard decisions, and neighborhoods so desperate to stay where they are that they are actively trying to stab other neighborhoods in the back.

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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using opt in data for next fall is a stupid way to gauge long term priorities and preferences. I’m sure there are families who would not want to send their kids to Western right now while it doesn’t yet have the sports and other things, but would be happy to do so once it’s a full fledged school. All they will learn from next year’s data is who was truly unhappy at their current school and wanted a way out. That info should not be used to make long term decisions, but given our school board is full of idiots that’s probably what they will do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

There is difference between concern/tactics what might happen, and trully wish what will happen.

You can defend for you neighbor, I can trust my other crossfield neighbor ALL wishing it will not happen.