Anonymous wrote:Great Falls kids are not being moved on any of the scenarios. Why are they screaming? I will say they seem to especially hate the purchase of KAA--and I think I know why.

The Herndon address Langley families are well aware they should be zoned for Herndon, but they keep getting lucky.

BTW, we don’t want them at Herndon if they are going to have a bad attitude about being “forced” to mingle with the “families that don’t care about their kids’ education”.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

Great Falls has to move to Herndon. It is insulting that this is even a question/issue.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

Gimme my handout!

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Fox Mill residents do not want to be moved (again). Move Oak Hill. But not Fox Mill.

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Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

Did it pass? That will make Irving even MORE crowded. Ugh.

Not by much.

Irving only sends around 1 class per year to LB for middle school (around 60 kids between 7th and 8th grades)

In that group of 60 are a decdnt number of Sangster kids, who are now going to be rezoned to LB for middle school, so they will stay there as their base school instead of being able to choose Irving.

Irving will also lose those AAP kids who live in that weird Keene Mill island down by White Oaks Elementary. Those kids are also getting rezoned from Irving to Lake Braddock.

Irving will lose all the Sangster kids, all of the Keene Mill island kids, and gain some Rolling Valley kids.

There will be no Sangster or Keene Mill island AAP kids returning from Lake Braddock AAP, just the small number of AAP kids from Orange ahunt, Hunt Valley, Rolling Valley, Cardinal Forest, West Springfield and some of the Keene Mill AAP kids.

When they remive the ability of AAP kids to transfer to Lake Braddock, it is going to most likely be a much smaller number of students (maybe 20 per grade) who return to Irving for AAP. When you factor in the kids getting rezoned out of Irving from Sangster and the Keene Mill island, and the Lewis kids getting rezoned into WSHS, Irving will still decrease in enrollment.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

I fully expect Floris to end up at KAA to end the split feeder issue. I would love for Fox Mill to end up at KAA but I don't think it is happening. Or maybe the School Board decides to reunite Floris at SLHS and Fox Mill and Crossfield end up at KAA?

I do wish that the school board would wake up and see that IB is something that everyone resists being moved to and tank the program. Or make it a magnate some place so that the few people that actually like IB can choose to attend it and leave AP for everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

I missed that too.

I thought the school hoard only voted to consider the idea of adding AAP to every middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

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Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

AAP students from Hughes have been attending SLHS for a while now, the IB numbers bump has not happened. Fifty kids completed the IB diploma last year. The Hughes students can transfer for IB or for Japanese, which they can take at Hughes and continue at SLHS but not HHS.

Historically how many South Lakes IB diploma candidates have been base school Herndon? This AP Herndon to IB South Lakes is the only one in FCPS that's volumes incoming for IB. Skip Edison because it has Global STEM.

Japanese Immersion is at Fox Mill and JIP also used to be at it's neighbor [contiguous boundaries]Floris. A merger but Great Falls with low enrollment/attrition still has JIP. Immersion MS transition for Japanese is at Carson and Cooper, not Hughes.
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/middle/world-languages/middle-school-immersion-transition-program

Yes, JII is at Fox Mill, my kid participated, but there is Japanese offered at Hughes and kids continue it into HS at SLHS. I don't know if the do the Japanese 1/2, like non-immersion kids do at Carson, or if they walk over to SLHS for Japanese. We have friends at Hughes who have mentioned walking to SLHS for some class. Part of the argument for moving Fox Mill to Hughes has been that there is support for the JII program at Hughes.

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Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

I thought it did pass. I saw a vote a few weeks ago. 12-1 IIRC

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Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

All that passed was a requirement for a staff study. They haven’t voted to make this a reality yet. If they do that it will require a lot of middle school boundary changes.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

Living in the Fox Mill / Floris community, I'm betting this is going to be the main battle with the KAA boundary. I think the majority of the SLHS families going to Floris want to be "put back together" with their community and follow the rest of the Floris families to KAA, and avoid the split feeder that's existed for too long. However I doubt they pull all of those kids AND Fox Mill out of SLHS, given how impactful that'd be to SLHS (unless they backfill with Crossfield).