Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 08:14     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
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Anonymous wrote:No, it is funding former MCPS employees who came up with this program and need to fund their retirement beach house near Charleston. MCPS only funds ‘internal training’ except when they are bribed by multinational corporations for a decade to develop curriculum (Pearson).


lol. I don't have any facts, but this sounds exactly like the type of thing the MCPS Superintendent of Schools staff would do. If true, this is the type of corruption dragging down the school system. MCPS needs to stop wasting taxpayer funding - period. Money is for the teachers and children, not their pockets.


Unlesss they can provide a credible citation I wouldn't buy this kind of rumor. There are a few people who post here simply to spread misinformation and cultivate dissent with schools.


This is nonsense. I have no attachment to the Leader in Me program and can't speculate on whether it's appropriate for MCPS, but it's basically a kid-sized approach to 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, a book first published in 1989. It was adapted by a school in North Carolina. There's no MCPS link here.


LOL

Possibly even worse.

Any stats showing how this program improves student outcomes? Or is it just wishful thinking.



I mean, they claim it does, and they claim to have studies showing improvement in student outcomes. I don't have time to dig through the research and decide whether I buy what they are selling, but PP's claim that this curriculum has some link to former MCPS employees is just not true. https://www.leaderinme.org/research-highlights-leadership/

Basically, I don't know or even really care about this program because I work on SEL at home with my kids according to our values. But I do care that people come onto this site and level really serious accusations like this, and I think it's worth knocking them down because the impact is a disinformation campaign aimed at undermining parent trust in public education.


A random anonymous post here isn’t going to achieve that.

However, MCPS has been doing enough to undermine parent trust for the past several years. Any parent paying attention knows that Central Office is a joke and MCPS is a mess - poor leadership, no accountability.

You want to rebuild trust in parents and teachers? This SEL curriculum ain’t it.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 08:11     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
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Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?


I prefer that my students speak up when they fail to understand the relevance of a lesson. That’s how I get better. Either I need to teach better, or shift my focus. I don’t want to teach robots.


So why don’t the teachers speak up who are taking the training? Aren’t they an MCPS stakeholder? Doesn’t MCPS take surveys after training to get data if teachers think the training is helpful?

I am concerned that there is such a disconnect from Central Office and the staff that work with children. Ultimately, any program MCPS wants to implement will fail if the teachers don’t buy in to the importance of the program. Be Well 365 seems like the predecessor that fell flat.

Just saying that SEL is important to MCPS and doing teacher training doesn’t get SEL implemented in the classroom.


DP. I hear people claiming to be teachers complaining here and virtually no one complaining on social media except one woman who thinks the separation of church and state is being violated because there’s some connection to a Mormon.


Are you joking?

Do you honestly think a teacher is going to put himself/herself out there to speak out against this? How do you think that will go over?

Plus, many teachers are young. I could potentially see an older, more confident teacher speaking out. Otherwise, it’s not going to happen.

Employees have to take all sorts of useless trainings for various jobs. It is what it is.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 07:29     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?


I prefer that my students speak up when they fail to understand the relevance of a lesson. That’s how I get better. Either I need to teach better, or shift my focus. I don’t want to teach robots.


So why don’t the teachers speak up who are taking the training? Aren’t they an MCPS stakeholder? Doesn’t MCPS take surveys after training to get data if teachers think the training is helpful?

I am concerned that there is such a disconnect from Central Office and the staff that work with children. Ultimately, any program MCPS wants to implement will fail if the teachers don’t buy in to the importance of the program. Be Well 365 seems like the predecessor that fell flat.

Just saying that SEL is important to MCPS and doing teacher training doesn’t get SEL implemented in the classroom.


DP. I hear people claiming to be teachers complaining here and virtually no one complaining on social media except one woman who thinks the separation of church and state is being violated because there’s some connection to a Mormon.


Anything that isn't traditional math, reading and writing geared towards advanced kids won't get any traction on this board.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 07:20     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?


Why are you sticking up so hard for this? If my kids hate a lesson, I openly tell them to let me know. So I feel pretty great about it, thanks for asking!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 06:54     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?


I prefer that my students speak up when they fail to understand the relevance of a lesson. That’s how I get better. Either I need to teach better, or shift my focus. I don’t want to teach robots.


So why don’t the teachers speak up who are taking the training? Aren’t they an MCPS stakeholder? Doesn’t MCPS take surveys after training to get data if teachers think the training is helpful?

I am concerned that there is such a disconnect from Central Office and the staff that work with children. Ultimately, any program MCPS wants to implement will fail if the teachers don’t buy in to the importance of the program. Be Well 365 seems like the predecessor that fell flat.

Just saying that SEL is important to MCPS and doing teacher training doesn’t get SEL implemented in the classroom.


DP. I hear people claiming to be teachers complaining here and virtually no one complaining on social media except one woman who thinks the separation of church and state is being violated because there’s some connection to a Mormon.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 06:54     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
I found the first two days to be absolute torture. At least they show you how to find the lessons on day 3. There are a lot of resources to use with students on the Covey website. We met in breakout rooms with our school teams to begin brainstorming ideas for implementation. They could (and should) have made the training just one day. While the resources look nice, I still don't think they are current enough for the needs of our students.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 06:35     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?


I prefer that my students speak up when they fail to understand the relevance of a lesson. That’s how I get better. Either I need to teach better, or shift my focus. I don’t want to teach robots.


So why don’t the teachers speak up who are taking the training? Aren’t they an MCPS stakeholder? Doesn’t MCPS take surveys after training to get data if teachers think the training is helpful?

I am concerned that there is such a disconnect from Central Office and the staff that work with children. Ultimately, any program MCPS wants to implement will fail if the teachers don’t buy in to the importance of the program. Be Well 365 seems like the predecessor that fell flat.

Just saying that SEL is important to MCPS and doing teacher training doesn’t get SEL implemented in the classroom.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 23:47     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, it is funding former MCPS employees who came up with this program and need to fund their retirement beach house near Charleston. MCPS only funds ‘internal training’ except when they are bribed by multinational corporations for a decade to develop curriculum (Pearson).


lol. I don't have any facts, but this sounds exactly like the type of thing the MCPS Superintendent of Schools staff would do. If true, this is the type of corruption dragging down the school system. MCPS needs to stop wasting taxpayer funding - period. Money is for the teachers and children, not their pockets.


So instead you post your fact-free speculation. Why?


Because they've done worse in the past and present? Was this a trick question?


You are alleging that former MCPS employees came up with this program, despite having zero evidence. How about we focus on the actual problems that are occurring here, rather than making stuff up?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 23:15     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?


I prefer that my students speak up when they fail to understand the relevance of a lesson. That’s how I get better. Either I need to teach better, or shift my focus. I don’t want to teach robots.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 22:50     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.

How do teachers feel when students express that attitude?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 22:48     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, it is funding former MCPS employees who came up with this program and need to fund their retirement beach house near Charleston. MCPS only funds ‘internal training’ except when they are bribed by multinational corporations for a decade to develop curriculum (Pearson).


lol. I don't have any facts, but this sounds exactly like the type of thing the MCPS Superintendent of Schools staff would do. If true, this is the type of corruption dragging down the school system. MCPS needs to stop wasting taxpayer funding - period. Money is for the teachers and children, not their pockets.


So instead you post your fact-free speculation. Why?


Because they've done worse in the past and present? Was this a trick question?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 20:21     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.


Not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. Either way, the training is lame and doesn’t benefit anyone.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 19:54     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:I have to wake up tomorrow for this bs. Not part of my contract. Nope,not learning anything new...guaranteed. Such a waste of time.

Such a defeatist attitude. Of course it won't work for you.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 09:14     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, it is funding former MCPS employees who came up with this program and need to fund their retirement beach house near Charleston. MCPS only funds ‘internal training’ except when they are bribed by multinational corporations for a decade to develop curriculum (Pearson).


lol. I don't have any facts, but this sounds exactly like the type of thing the MCPS Superintendent of Schools staff would do. If true, this is the type of corruption dragging down the school system. MCPS needs to stop wasting taxpayer funding - period. Money is for the teachers and children, not their pockets.


Unlesss they can provide a credible citation I wouldn't buy this kind of rumor. There are a few people who post here simply to spread misinformation and cultivate dissent with schools.


This is nonsense. I have no attachment to the Leader in Me program and can't speculate on whether it's appropriate for MCPS, but it's basically a kid-sized approach to 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, a book first published in 1989. It was adapted by a school in North Carolina. There's no MCPS link here.


LOL

Possibly even worse.

Any stats showing how this program improves student outcomes? Or is it just wishful thinking.



I mean, they claim it does, and they claim to have studies showing improvement in student outcomes. I don't have time to dig through the research and decide whether I buy what they are selling, but PP's claim that this curriculum has some link to former MCPS employees is just not true. https://www.leaderinme.org/research-highlights-leadership/

Basically, I don't know or even really care about this program because I work on SEL at home with my kids according to our values. But I do care that people come onto this site and level really serious accusations like this, and I think it's worth knocking them down because the impact is a disinformation campaign aimed at undermining parent trust in public education.


I get the sense those posters just resent spending tax dollars on anything and are unable to grasp that this serves the public good.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2021 09:05     Subject: New MCPS Social Emotional Learning Curriculum
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, it is funding former MCPS employees who came up with this program and need to fund their retirement beach house near Charleston. MCPS only funds ‘internal training’ except when they are bribed by multinational corporations for a decade to develop curriculum (Pearson).


lol. I don't have any facts, but this sounds exactly like the type of thing the MCPS Superintendent of Schools staff would do. If true, this is the type of corruption dragging down the school system. MCPS needs to stop wasting taxpayer funding - period. Money is for the teachers and children, not their pockets.


Unlesss they can provide a credible citation I wouldn't buy this kind of rumor. There are a few people who post here simply to spread misinformation and cultivate dissent with schools.


This is nonsense. I have no attachment to the Leader in Me program and can't speculate on whether it's appropriate for MCPS, but it's basically a kid-sized approach to 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, a book first published in 1989. It was adapted by a school in North Carolina. There's no MCPS link here.


LOL

Possibly even worse.

Any stats showing how this program improves student outcomes? Or is it just wishful thinking.



I mean, they claim it does, and they claim to have studies showing improvement in student outcomes. I don't have time to dig through the research and decide whether I buy what they are selling, but PP's claim that this curriculum has some link to former MCPS employees is just not true. https://www.leaderinme.org/research-highlights-leadership/

Basically, I don't know or even really care about this program because I work on SEL at home with my kids according to our values. But I do care that people come onto this site and level really serious accusations like this, and I think it's worth knocking them down because the impact is a disinformation campaign aimed at undermining parent trust in public education.