Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 13:29     Subject: Re:Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:What I wonder is how can folks move in as gentrifies, rudely and ruthlessly displace long-term Black residents, and then be outraged that that once in a while, someone get seriously hurt like this? I mean, under "street code," people lose their lives over $500. The harm gentrifies cause is far more than drug deal gone wrong. To me, seems that white folks buying in many parts of DC are gambling as this family did.


If the old neighborhood code is such that you and your small child get shot for no reason, then the old neighborhood and its code need to die ASAP. Good riddance.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 13:27     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.


I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.


So if someone almost runs over you and your child on a scooter, you just cower and hide? Do you also apologize for being in their way? You have to understand that not everyone is as cowardly as you. You can’t expect that level of submissiveness from your average person.


I absolutely understand that it’s hard to control how you react in a confrontation or emergency. But yes, everyone living in a city needs to be cautious and know when to get away or stay away.


It’s impossible to always know in a split second which strangers are violent psychopaths. Stop blaming the victims.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 13:27     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
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Anonymous wrote:All of the people who are victim-blaming are disgusting. It takes a community effort to maintain a decent neighborhood. When the response to jerks endangering children by riding an electric scooter is to say, "Go inside and hide" then you are abandoning the streets to the miscreants. That's how neighborhoods stay unsafe.


There is zero chance someone who intentionally runs into you with a scooter is going to change their behavior because you yelled at them. None. Maybe they’ll just ride off and ignore you but maybe they’ll yell back or worse. Sometimes you have to recognize the only outcome of your actions is a bad one and let things go. That’s doesn’t mean the family deserved to be shot or even yelled at.

Now if it’s a neighbor mowing you down on a regular basis, then yes go talk to them. But some rando? Nope.


Exactly. There's a time and place to exercise your civic duty, but it's not while confronting out of control, sketchy, or aggressive strangers on the street.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 13:26     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.


I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.


Look, they ended up shot. The world obviously does run by a street code. This is a really bizarre perspective to take.


If someone tried to run over your toddlers on an electric scooter, you would just say NOTHING?! I would definitely say "dude slow down!". This does NOT warrant being shot. He shot a freaking CHILD!!!! He could have killed both children easily.


Of course it didn't warrant getting shot; nothing does. The point is how to keep yourself safe - which is your responsibility.


So I guess you think women who dress provocatively aren’t keeping themselves safe and are asking to be raped?


I just can't with you. It's a weird kind of thing where white people think they are somehow exempt from having to be situationally aware in a city, because they are white and have an expensive house.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 13:13     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:All of the people who are victim-blaming are disgusting. It takes a community effort to maintain a decent neighborhood. When the response to jerks endangering children by riding an electric scooter is to say, "Go inside and hide" then you are abandoning the streets to the miscreants. That's how neighborhoods stay unsafe.


There is zero chance someone who intentionally runs into you with a scooter is going to change their behavior because you yelled at them. None. Maybe they’ll just ride off and ignore you but maybe they’ll yell back or worse. Sometimes you have to recognize the only outcome of your actions is a bad one and let things go. That’s doesn’t mean the family deserved to be shot or even yelled at.

Now if it’s a neighbor mowing you down on a regular basis, then yes go talk to them. But some rando? Nope.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:56     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
^^Some people have a messed up sense of morality and need to haul their behinds into church.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:44     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
All of the people who are victim-blaming are disgusting. It takes a community effort to maintain a decent neighborhood. When the response to jerks endangering children by riding an electric scooter is to say, "Go inside and hide" then you are abandoning the streets to the miscreants. That's how neighborhoods stay unsafe.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:35     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
If you're in a country where women don't have basic rights, it is in your best interest to fall in line there too. Again, it's not about being right and your ideals, it's literally about your safety. Very basic.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:32     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
No they're not asking to be raped. But ask yourself honestly WHY are they dressing like that? You used the word yourself. Provocatively. To get attention. To provoke. Rapists are on another level and for them it's control, violence and whatever else.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:24     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.


I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.


Look, they ended up shot. The world obviously does run by a street code. This is a really bizarre perspective to take.


If someone tried to run over your toddlers on an electric scooter, you would just say NOTHING?! I would definitely say "dude slow down!". This does NOT warrant being shot. He shot a freaking CHILD!!!! He could have killed both children easily.


Of course it didn't warrant getting shot; nothing does. The point is how to keep yourself safe - which is your responsibility.


So I guess you think women who dress provocatively aren’t keeping themselves safe and are asking to be raped?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:21     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.


I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.


Except when you're on the street. That's the part you do not seem to get. Sometimes you push the wrong person. The public is just that. The public. You don't know what you're getting. Depending on the response Katie got, the matter should have been dropped. From the neighbor's post, it wasn't. Husband "defended" her. I've seen this before and they just expect to bully the other person because they're oh so right. But sometimes the other person Has a Gun.



This is victim blaming. Part of being in the public is also getting yelled at when you are a moron (aka: speeding a scooter through a family playing) and then you do not SHOOT THEM WHEN THEIR BACKS ARE TURNED AND THEY ARE WALKING AWAY.

As a mom, I tell people to slow down all the time. Why? Because I don't want my kids to get run over. If I was shot by a lunatic because of that, the solution is not "don't tell people to slow down" the solution is to keep guns out of crazy people's hands, or better yet GET RID OF GUNS. Not "mind yourself around the dangerous big city". That's insanity.


You yell at strangers on the streets in DC? That's a bad idea. Go to your local ANC meetings and ask for traffic cameras. Don't put yourself and your kids at risk.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:20     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.


I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.


Look, they ended up shot. The world obviously does run by a street code. This is a really bizarre perspective to take.


If someone tried to run over your toddlers on an electric scooter, you would just say NOTHING?! I would definitely say "dude slow down!". This does NOT warrant being shot. He shot a freaking CHILD!!!! He could have killed both children easily.


Of course it didn't warrant getting shot; nothing does. The point is how to keep yourself safe - which is your responsibility.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:19     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
You can call it cowardly. I call it trying to stay out of trouble.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:19     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.


I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.


Except when you're on the street. That's the part you do not seem to get. Sometimes you push the wrong person. The public is just that. The public. You don't know what you're getting. Depending on the response Katie got, the matter should have been dropped. From the neighbor's post, it wasn't. Husband "defended" her. I've seen this before and they just expect to bully the other person because they're oh so right. But sometimes the other person Has a Gun.



Right. I don't think we should judge though because it must have been a shock to see his family almost get hit but a crazy dude on the sidewalk. But it's a lesson to everyone else to engage your FLIGHT reflex on streets, not fight.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2021 12:18     Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
For example, I was leaving my office building the other night late enough that no one was around except for the white guy that wanted a lighter. I ignored him and he fortunately was down the block. He had a lot of things to shout at me, all unprintable. I hurried to the parking garage. It was not the time to engage.

Same as when someone acts crazy in traffic. I let it go. It's not about being right.