Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 12:15     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:There are ways around everything..... Resourceful and patient people can easily work around every single "what if?" scenario mentioned here. All the anger and name calling in the world will not move people who have made up their minds. You all should use your energy for something productive and not equivalent to screaming at a wall. If you are vaccinated, carry on with your life. If you are not vaccinated, take care of your general health and be mindful of exposure.


There will be some real differences between what is available for vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. Maybe that will influence some decisions.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 12:15     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A friend just mentioned to me that her mom's specialist told her they are requiring covid-19 vaccination to be seen in the practice. The doctor has a rare specialty that people travel from other states for and doesn't want to be exposed.


I think I it’s going to be relatively easy for in demand specialists to institute something like this. General practitioners in states with low vaccination rates? That’s a different story, and a harder choice.


Sure. It will be harder for red state GPs to institute that rule. But the most in-demand private practices are already putting the policy into place.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 12:14     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A friend just mentioned to me that her mom's specialist told her they are requiring covid-19 vaccination to be seen in the practice. The doctor has a rare specialty that people travel from other states for and doesn't want to be exposed.


I think I it’s going to be relatively easy for in demand specialists to institute something like this. General practitioners in states with low vaccination rates? That’s a different story, and a harder choice.


Agree. There will be big differences in what kinds of requirements are in place state by state. Or maybe states will work together regionally to have the same requirements
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 12:12     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:There are ways around everything..... Resourceful and patient people can easily work around every single "what if?" scenario mentioned here. All the anger and name calling in the world will not move people who have made up their minds. You all should use your energy for something productive and not equivalent to screaming at a wall. If you are vaccinated, carry on with your life. If you are not vaccinated, take care of your general health and be mindful of exposure.


No, PP. No, they can't.

Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 12:11     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:A friend just mentioned to me that her mom's specialist told her they are requiring covid-19 vaccination to be seen in the practice. The doctor has a rare specialty that people travel from other states for and doesn't want to be exposed.


I think I it’s going to be relatively easy for in demand specialists to institute something like this. General practitioners in states with low vaccination rates? That’s a different story, and a harder choice.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 12:08     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
There are ways around everything..... Resourceful and patient people can easily work around every single "what if?" scenario mentioned here. All the anger and name calling in the world will not move people who have made up their minds. You all should use your energy for something productive and not equivalent to screaming at a wall. If you are vaccinated, carry on with your life. If you are not vaccinated, take care of your general health and be mindful of exposure.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:58     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
But you can get your child's assessment for genetic disorders from the janitor at the nursing home if you want, I guess.

Nothing against janitors. Genetic diseases are generally not in their specialty, but we all make our own choices.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:56     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
A friend just mentioned to me that her mom's specialist told her they are requiring covid-19 vaccination to be seen in the practice. The doctor has a rare specialty that people travel from other states for and doesn't want to be exposed.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:56     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as their best life includes no in person schooling or college, then they will be happy I suppose.


The ones I know are in areas where in-person school has been offered all year. No requirements to get vaccinated.

In any event, I think it's going to be awfully difficult for schools to require the Covid vaccine given it still only has emergency authorization and there are numerous loopholes for all other vaccines that are fully approved.


In some states, these loopholes are being closed after leading to outbreaks of measles, pertussis etc. This country will start to see different environments in pro-vaccine states vs. anti-vaccine states.


A certain level of unvaccinated folks can sail through on the backs of the protection offered by the rest of the group being vaccinated. But that went too far and some states are done with the free loaders. Covid is very very contagious but I believe measles is one of the top champions of rampant infectious disease spread. Measles does not have to be tolerated if we as a democracy decide it soen not have to be tolerated.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:56     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Yeah, that doesn't mean doctors, PP.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:50     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as their best life includes no in person schooling or college, then they will be happy I suppose.


The ones I know are in areas where in-person school has been offered all year. No requirements to get vaccinated.

In any event, I think it's going to be awfully difficult for schools to require the Covid vaccine given it still only has emergency authorization and there are numerous loopholes for all other vaccines that are fully approved.


In some states, these loopholes are being closed after leading to outbreaks of measles, pertussis etc. This country will start to see different environments in pro-vaccine states vs. anti-vaccine states.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:47     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:As long as their best life includes no in person schooling or college, then they will be happy I suppose.


The ones I know are in areas where in-person school has been offered all year. No requirements to get vaccinated.

In any event, I think it's going to be awfully difficult for schools to require the Covid vaccine given it still only has emergency authorization and there are numerous loopholes for all other vaccines that are fully approved.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:46     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wont. Some individual businesses may require proof but not most.

But on the flip side, employers won’t provide extended sick leave and quarantine leave etc.


Yeah, I just had 2 unvaccinated supervisees have to use almost 2 weeks of sick leave to quarantine because they were exposed to another employee, where the vaccinated employees could come to work as usual and just self-monitor for symptoms. At least one of those two is reevaluating her stance.


Well the risk calculations that must be made for unvaccinated vs vaccinated people are different. These twp groups of people will be subject to different analysis...that is reality.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:43     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some private Mds will not accept patients that are not vaccinated.


Pfizer is in the final stages of testing a pill that stops Covid infections in its tracks. Once that is out on the market, the idea of requiring a vaccine will fade. You can't mandate a virus that's treatable.

It does make me wonder whether or not there was some deliberate suppression of other medications that could have helped patients recover that are already out on the market. Nothing is foolproof, of course (consider TamiFlu), but there's big money in any drug that can treat a newer virus.


Final stages of testing does not equal flooding the market anytime soon. A deliberate suppression of a drug that could save millions? Sigh.


It’s hard not to think we should have had this already.


Do you realize that scientists can't just snap their fingers and magically make these great treatments appear? It's a minor miracle that any vaccine, especially one so effective, was developed so quickly.


Really? Darn I was hoping that is all it takes.

Yes I acknowledge the tremendous effort of the prior administration and scientists to bring vaccines so quickly. I hope that equal effort and resources are being utilized for quick and efficient treatments before hospitalization.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:43     Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Careful what you wish for OP. One day there might be a vaccine, treatment, some other medical requirement, exc. that you do not want, but will be forced to take. Your regret will come too late.


+1 billion. I have said these exact words for many many years.