Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 15:05     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:HELP!!!
MY MATH IS FAILING!

WHY THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UO???

Add these two numbers:
POSITIVE TOTAL CASES
NEGATIVE TOTAL CASES

They dont reflect the total number performed tests.

So what about 4 million missing test results per this data? Inconclusive?

Please try to balance the numbers below. Good luck. You will need it; Unless you know better math then us all:







The same person can (and often does) test positive more than once, but they only count as one case.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 15:03     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:HELP!!!
MY MATH IS FAILING!

WHY THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UO???

Add these two numbers:
POSITIVE TOTAL CASES
NEGATIVE TOTAL CASES

They dont reflect the total number performed tests.

So what about 4 million missing test results per this data? Inconclusive?

Please try to balance the numbers below. Good luck. You will need it; Unless you know better math then us all:







It’s the new math - it doesn’t conform to your outdated standards.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 14:49     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

HELP!!!
MY MATH IS FAILING!

WHY THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UO???

Add these two numbers:
POSITIVE TOTAL CASES
NEGATIVE TOTAL CASES

They dont reflect the total number performed tests.

So what about 4 million missing test results per this data? Inconclusive?

Please try to balance the numbers below. Good luck. You will need it; Unless you know better math then us all:





Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 14:00     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem with schools is that the state leaders have prioritized bars and restaurants and strip clubs over schools.


No - the public schools pandemic failures fall squarely on the counties. Hogan did intervene on behalf of privates in Montgomery when Gayles tried to close them down as well.


Whatever, we can agree to disagree but I question the critical thinking skills of someone that can’t recognize that all levels of give (federal, state, and local) have failed our kids in this response. They haven’t always failed them in the same way, but they’re all responsible.


Question critical thinking skills all you want - but the state (at least in MD) is limited as to what they are able force the county run public schools to do. If you want to find root causes for this issue, please consider that the unholy alliance between the teacher's unions and the counties has been the largest contributor to this problem. The union did not want the teachers to return to the classroom, therefore the county leaders did not force the issue.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 13:43     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Less than a 4 percent positivity rate and only 800 people hospitalized state wide? Not enough to warrant continued closures.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 13:40     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

and schools still aren't open. Nothing should be opened further until schools are open
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 13:29     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

^^ Govt, not give
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 13:28     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem with schools is that the state leaders have prioritized bars and restaurants and strip clubs over schools.


No - the public schools pandemic failures fall squarely on the counties. Hogan did intervene on behalf of privates in Montgomery when Gayles tried to close them down as well.


Whatever, we can agree to disagree but I question the critical thinking skills of someone that can’t recognize that all levels of give (federal, state, and local) have failed our kids in this response. They haven’t always failed them in the same way, but they’re all responsible.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 13:06     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem with schools is that the state leaders have prioritized bars and restaurants and strip clubs over schools.


No - the public schools pandemic failures fall squarely on the counties. Hogan did intervene on behalf of privates in Montgomery when Gayles tried to close them down as well.


Well, the rest of us who can't afford to go to private school would like the bars and restaurants to remain low capacity, so idiots won't be eating out inside and causing another surge. That's how you get the vast majority of schools open.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 11:50     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Ugh. Hope we somehow avoid a big wave from the variants like happened in the UK and elsewhere, but I'm skeptical. Couldn't he have waited just one more month to see if things still looked okay or if cases were going back up again? (Especially with all the new federal money, so we don't have to worry so much about the impact on people and the economy anymore.)
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 11:44     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING NEWS: Prince George's County to ease COVID-19 restrictions on Friday. Among the changes: restaurants and places of worship will be allowed to operate at 50% capacity.

WTOP


The link

https://www.facebook.com/112565666483/posts/10159444339526484/?d=n
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 11:41     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

BREAKING NEWS: Prince George's County to ease COVID-19 restrictions on Friday. Among the changes: restaurants and places of worship will be allowed to operate at 50% capacity.

WTOP
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 10:54     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:Part of the problem with schools is that the state leaders have prioritized bars and restaurants and strip clubs over schools.


No - the public schools pandemic failures fall squarely on the counties. Hogan did intervene on behalf of privates in Montgomery when Gayles tried to close them down as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 10:50     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Part of the problem with schools is that the state leaders have prioritized bars and restaurants and strip clubs over schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 10:17     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.



You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.


We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.


I think Hogan feels his job is done in regards to schools- he offered his opinion that they should open and moved on to the text thing. He never really cared about schools, if he had he would have provided more consistent leadership as other governors did.


Hogan CANNOT force schools to open. Learn the laws of the state you live in. It’s the Board of education of each county that makes the decision. They are the ones that failed the students. Hogan can’t keep everything shut because the unions own the BOE.


So screw the kids then? Come on, he knows some districts are playing it super safe and just bringing kids back- I personally feel they have been too conservative BUT this will deliberately undermine them and potentially cause rates to go back up beyond the thresholds Hogan’s own education department had recommended.

Other state governments worked with local jurisdictions more closely to help with reopening. Hogans approach was to leave it up to the locals and then come flying in in late august with metrics once they made decisions he didn’t agree with. There’s plenty of blame to go around at both the state and local levels, and it’s partly because there’s so much animosity between the state and some counties that they can’t be bothered to work together.


The MoCo Council also started loosening restrictions well before meeting the 15/100,000 new case metric. You literally had Elrich and Gayles saying indoor dining was OK and reasonably safe, but that schools couldn't reopen. That lasted about a week before Gayles at least started being less adamant against reopening schools. Elrich went mostly quiet on MCPS reopening once case counts dropped below the metric, but certainly hasn't been supportive.

The issue with schools is simply local politics. MCEA/MSEA is the most politically active group in local politics. Every Democrat is scared to challenge them.

I'm not particularly supportive of Hogan's new order. And I especially think the sudden change on local orders was entirely inappropriate, clearly meant as an FU to MoCo and PG County. But with the exception of this apparent temper tantrum, I think Hogan has consistently acted in good faith, and has been consistent in his approach for balancing the public health risks against the societal cost of restrictions. I wouldn't say the same for MoCo. You just have to look at schools to see that.

And Elrich has made it abundantly clear that his plan for the pandemic is to blame everything on Hogan (and Trump). I don't know how you'd expect them to be able to work together.


Agreed- we have family living in both red and blue areas, but they are all puzzled at how little this area seems to value and prioritize education. My brother in the Boston area actually turned down a transfer to DC because of that- their kids have been hybrid and will soon be going back full time.

It’s become too political and our local leaders clearly care more about pleasing the teachers unions than educating kids. Staring at screens for hours a day is completely inappropriate for young kids especially.