Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 12:46     Subject: AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't wait for the firing of teachers when enrollment drops


You really think that will happen? I don’t. All the closures have just shown that the schools exist as jobs programs for all manner of individuals, not just teachers but school staff, bus drivers, cafeteria employees ....... they never did any massive layoffs even though the buildings have been largely closed for a year.


DP and I do. I think the cuts will come to specials and to specialists jobs. They will cut those to save some funding. They will probably also try and encourage early retirement.


If schools get down to closer to 100% capacity then they won't need some of the extra staff brought on during the last few years. No more than regular turnover - just won't need to backfill some positions.

Not much for the teacher haters to get excited about.

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 10:29     Subject: AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't wait for the firing of teachers when enrollment drops


You really think that will happen? I don’t. All the closures have just shown that the schools exist as jobs programs for all manner of individuals, not just teachers but school staff, bus drivers, cafeteria employees ....... they never did any massive layoffs even though the buildings have been largely closed for a year.


DP and I do. I think the cuts will come to specials and to specialists jobs. They will cut those to save some funding. They will probably also try and encourage early retirement.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 10:12     Subject: AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:Can't wait for the firing of teachers when enrollment drops


You really think that will happen? I don’t. All the closures have just shown that the schools exist as jobs programs for all manner of individuals, not just teachers but school staff, bus drivers, cafeteria employees ....... they never did any massive layoffs even though the buildings have been largely closed for a year.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 07:53     Subject: AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't wait for the firing of teachers when enrollment drops


So vile. F off.


And when abysmal SOL scores come out.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 06:58     Subject: AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:Can't wait for the firing of teachers when enrollment drops


So vile. F off.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 21:15     Subject: AEM is not happy about SB1303

Can't wait for the firing of teachers when enrollment drops
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 17:51     Subject: Re:AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.


Where??


DP. I don't know if I'm at the same school as pp, but in our NW elementary school, almost all of the executive board, including the positions that usually feed into the president position, have decided to step down after this year. It's not due to any internal strife that I know of, but is simply because they are all exhausted and burned out, and just can't do it again next year if we might still be on this hybrid schedule. Most of them are working parents, and I can't blame them at all for giving it up because this is all too much. If they can't find anyone to fill those roles for next year, or if they can only find people who will agree to serve if the PTA's activities are scaled back considerably, that will have a major impact on what the PTA can do for the school.

None of that means I'm on board with all of the comments made in this thread, because some of them have been really gross. But I am concerned that this is a symptom of the extent to which the current status of schools is breaking families with school-aged children. And if highly-resourced families are breaking, I have to imagine it's even worse for families with fewer resources.


You can phrase it however you want, but we’re saying the same thing. A decrease in families with resources only means bad things for the years to come.



Yes, it's terrible. We should have prioritized opening schools over opening bars/restaurants.

And we shouldn't be prematurely sending kids back 5 days/wk. Fortunately, we aren't far off following CDC guidelines.

Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 17:23     Subject: Re:AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.


Where??


DP. I don't know if I'm at the same school as pp, but in our NW elementary school, almost all of the executive board, including the positions that usually feed into the president position, have decided to step down after this year. It's not due to any internal strife that I know of, but is simply because they are all exhausted and burned out, and just can't do it again next year if we might still be on this hybrid schedule. Most of them are working parents, and I can't blame them at all for giving it up because this is all too much. If they can't find anyone to fill those roles for next year, or if they can only find people who will agree to serve if the PTA's activities are scaled back considerably, that will have a major impact on what the PTA can do for the school.

None of that means I'm on board with all of the comments made in this thread, because some of them have been really gross. But I am concerned that this is a symptom of the extent to which the current status of schools is breaking families with school-aged children. And if highly-resourced families are breaking, I have to imagine it's even worse for families with fewer resources.


Exactly.. It's awful.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 14:50     Subject: Re:AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.


Where??


DP. I don't know if I'm at the same school as pp, but in our NW elementary school, almost all of the executive board, including the positions that usually feed into the president position, have decided to step down after this year. It's not due to any internal strife that I know of, but is simply because they are all exhausted and burned out, and just can't do it again next year if we might still be on this hybrid schedule. Most of them are working parents, and I can't blame them at all for giving it up because this is all too much. If they can't find anyone to fill those roles for next year, or if they can only find people who will agree to serve if the PTA's activities are scaled back considerably, that will have a major impact on what the PTA can do for the school.

None of that means I'm on board with all of the comments made in this thread, because some of them have been really gross. But I am concerned that this is a symptom of the extent to which the current status of schools is breaking families with school-aged children. And if highly-resourced families are breaking, I have to imagine it's even worse for families with fewer resources.


You can phrase it however you want, but we’re saying the same thing. A decrease in families with resources only means bad things for the years to come.


I agree- the loss of families that will do things like volunteer to run reflections for the school, organize the school pictures (major PTA fundraiser), serve on ACTL, run the auction, etc. Loosing those families does adversely impact the school for all students.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 14:24     Subject: Re:AEM is not happy about SB1303

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.


Where??


DP. I don't know if I'm at the same school as pp, but in our NW elementary school, almost all of the executive board, including the positions that usually feed into the president position, have decided to step down after this year. It's not due to any internal strife that I know of, but is simply because they are all exhausted and burned out, and just can't do it again next year if we might still be on this hybrid schedule. Most of them are working parents, and I can't blame them at all for giving it up because this is all too much. If they can't find anyone to fill those roles for next year, or if they can only find people who will agree to serve if the PTA's activities are scaled back considerably, that will have a major impact on what the PTA can do for the school.

None of that means I'm on board with all of the comments made in this thread, because some of them have been really gross. But I am concerned that this is a symptom of the extent to which the current status of schools is breaking families with school-aged children. And if highly-resourced families are breaking, I have to imagine it's even worse for families with fewer resources.


You can phrase it however you want, but we’re saying the same thing. A decrease in families with resources only means bad things for the years to come.