Anonymous wrote:I don't know what happened in the book, but the scene in the show was not rape. She did not force him to have sex with her, he could have easily stopped and removed her during the act, and he never actually said I don't want to come in you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have the energy to read this thread ... what’s the verdict? Watch or no???

Watch. It’s a romance novel, not a history lesson. Some characters are not white. If you find either of those triggering, don’t watch.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.

That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.

And, the whole storyline is irrational.

“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.

What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.

It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to.

I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape.

Concent can be withdrawn at any point during an encounter. He said stopped, she forced him. It is definitely portraying a violation of consent, whether you want to call it rape or not.

+1 hands down its a lack of consent. If the genders were reversed we would definitely said it was rape. If a couple was having sex and a man finished in a woman without a condom against her consent it becomes rape.

I would agree with you if he said stop but he never did. . Finishing in woman without a condom is a shitty think to do, if beforehand she said not to, but it’s not rape.

So many of you have a very tenuous understanding of consent and it's a bit scary...

Finishing inside a woman who believes you are wearing a condom is a violation of the consent she has given you. She did NOT consent to that, and therefore it is akin to rape.

Daphne asked her maid to explain conception to her in the prior scene. She knew very well what she was doing. However, she believed it to be an answer to HIS consent violation in lying to her about the nature of sex and his ability to conceive. It's problematic is multiple ways. But what she did to him was not consensual, and I find it really concerning the number of people posting here that can't see that.

BS. Daphne did not rape him. She got on top and he was clearly into it. If he didn't want to finish he could've very easily thrown her off. Getting someone so excited that they can't control their own orgasm is not rape.

Forcing someone into a sexual encounter that they didn't consent to IS rape.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.

That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.

And, the whole storyline is irrational.

“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.

What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.

It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to.

I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape.

Concent can be withdrawn at any point during an encounter. He said stopped, she forced him. It is definitely portraying a violation of consent, whether you want to call it rape or not.

+1 hands down its a lack of consent. If the genders were reversed we would definitely said it was rape. If a couple was having sex and a man finished in a woman without a condom against her consent it becomes rape.

I would agree with you if he said stop but he never did. . Finishing in woman without a condom is a shitty think to do, if beforehand she said not to, but it’s not rape.

So many of you have a very tenuous understanding of consent and it's a bit scary...

Finishing inside a woman who believes you are wearing a condom is a violation of the consent she has given you. She did NOT consent to that, and therefore it is akin to rape.

Daphne asked her maid to explain conception to her in the prior scene. She knew very well what she was doing. However, she believed it to be an answer to HIS consent violation in lying to her about the nature of sex and his ability to conceive. It's problematic is multiple ways. But what she did to him was not consensual, and I find it really concerning the number of people posting here that can't see that.

BS. Daphne did not rape him. She got on top and he was clearly into it. If he didn't want to finish he could've very easily thrown her off. Getting someone so excited that they can't control their own orgasm is not rape.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.

That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.

And, the whole storyline is irrational.

“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.

What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.

It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to.

I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape.

Concent can be withdrawn at any point during an encounter. He said stopped, she forced him. It is definitely portraying a violation of consent, whether you want to call it rape or not.

+1 hands down its a lack of consent. If the genders were reversed we would definitely said it was rape. If a couple was having sex and a man finished in a woman without a condom against her consent it becomes rape.

I would agree with you if he said stop but he never did. . Finishing in woman without a condom is a shitty think to do, if beforehand she said not to, but it’s not rape.

So many of you have a very tenuous understanding of consent and it's a bit scary...

Finishing inside a woman who believes you are wearing a condom is a violation of the consent she has given you. She did NOT consent to that, and therefore it is akin to rape.

Daphne asked her maid to explain conception to her in the prior scene. She knew very well what she was doing. However, she believed it to be an answer to HIS consent violation in lying to her about the nature of sex and his ability to conceive. It's problematic is multiple ways. But what she did to him was not consensual, and I find it really concerning the number of people posting here that can't see that.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.

That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.

And, the whole storyline is irrational.

“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.

What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.

It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to.

I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape.

Concent can be withdrawn at any point during an encounter. He said stopped, she forced him. It is definitely portraying a violation of consent, whether you want to call it rape or not.

+1 hands down its a lack of consent. If the genders were reversed we would definitely said it was rape. If a couple was having sex and a man finished in a woman without a condom against her consent it becomes rape.

I would agree with you if he said stop but he never did. . Finishing in woman without a condom is a shitty think to do, if beforehand she said not to, but it’s not rape.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.

That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.

And, the whole storyline is irrational.

“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.

What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.

It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to.

I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape.

Concent can be withdrawn at any point during an encounter. He said stopped, she forced him. It is definitely portraying a violation of consent, whether you want to call it rape or not.

+1 hands down its a lack of consent. If the genders were reversed we would definitely said it was rape. If a couple was having sex and a man finished in a woman without a condom against her consent it becomes rape.

I would agree with you if he said stop but he never did. . Finishing in woman without a condom is a shitty think to do, if beforehand she said not to, but it’s not rape.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.

That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.

And, the whole storyline is irrational.

“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.

What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.

It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to.

I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape.

Concent can be withdrawn at any point during an encounter. He said stopped, she forced him. It is definitely portraying a violation of consent, whether you want to call it rape or not.

+1 hands down its a lack of consent. If the genders were reversed we would definitely said it was rape. If a couple was having sex and a man finished in a woman without a condom against her consent it becomes rape.

Anonymous wrote:The Featherington father was already deceased in the books so don’t know who the heir will be - but cliffhanger in that scene makes me hope for a second season, as does the bee in the final scene.

FYI the Bridgerton father was killed by a bee sting. Not sure there is mention of that in the series and it seems quite strange to focus on that at the very end if you didn’t know that.

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Anonymous wrote:After Pen’s father dies, who inherited the house?

Whatever male relative is next in line, like an uncle or cousin. The women would have no legal rights to house or estate by law. They would be at the mercy of the male who did inherit the title. This is is why marrying well is so critical to even rich womans survival.

But what about dowries? There were surely some heiresses then?

No, they didn’t get to own property. Their dowries went to their husbands. Womp womp.