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Anonymous wrote:The answer is always NYU.

-1st generation college grad who went to NYU

Why do you think it is overrated?
The cost ?

Costs.
Administration that’s more focused on real estate expansion than education.
Extremely low pay for adjuncts and PhD students relative to cost of living.

I was a double-major in Tisch (Film) and CAS (Political Science). Nearly everyone I know from Tisch is no longer in the arts field. I was friends with a ton of acting students and I know only one who “made it.” The rest? Working in a gym, paralegal, etc in their late 30s. I’m still close with about 10 people from my Film program and only two still work in the industry (one is a union editor the other makes documentaries but has a very low income).

It’s a school that doesn’t instill any sense of reality in most of its students. My friends in other CAS majors got their PhDs at great schools, but struggling in academia to make ends meet. We are all late 30s.

There are great programs at NYU - Stern, pre-med tracks, neuroscience, math. But outside of that, it’s a lot of broken dreams. Career counseling is atrocious.

Seriously trying to figure out how the fact that people decided not to pursue their dreams is the fault of the school. Nobody hires you in entertainment because you went to a school. They hire you because you are good, or fit the role, or made a good film or otherwise took the initiative to make your own opportunity. Donald Glover is a relatively recent NYU Tisch grad. Dreams or hustle -- all on you buddy.

Are you really comparing Donald Glover - the wealthy son of a very famous man - to the average NYU student taking out student loans?

You seem confused about who Donald Glover is.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is always NYU.

-1st generation college grad who went to NYU

Why do you think it is overrated?
The cost ?

Costs.
Administration that’s more focused on real estate expansion than education.
Extremely low pay for adjuncts and PhD students relative to cost of living.

I was a double-major in Tisch (Film) and CAS (Political Science). Nearly everyone I know from Tisch is no longer in the arts field. I was friends with a ton of acting students and I know only one who “made it.” The rest? Working in a gym, paralegal, etc in their late 30s. I’m still close with about 10 people from my Film program and only two still work in the industry (one is a union editor the other makes documentaries but has a very low income).

It’s a school that doesn’t instill any sense of reality in most of its students. My friends in other CAS majors got their PhDs at great schools, but struggling in academia to make ends meet. We are all late 30s.

There are great programs at NYU - Stern, pre-med tracks, neuroscience, math. But outside of that, it’s a lot of broken dreams. Career counseling is atrocious.

Seriously trying to figure out how the fact that people decided not to pursue their dreams is the fault of the school. Nobody hires you in entertainment because you went to a school. They hire you because you are good, or fit the role, or made a good film or otherwise took the initiative to make your own opportunity. Donald Glover is a relatively recent NYU Tisch grad. Dreams or hustle -- all on you buddy.

Are you really comparing Donald Glover - the wealthy son of a very famous man - to the average NYU student taking out student loans?

NYU

NYU

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Anonymous wrote:New York University, Rice, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, UVA, Washington University, Emory.

I’m confused too. Are people claiming they don’t think these schools belong in the Top 20? Or do they think people around here act like they’re top 10 schools? I don’t think either of those is true.

I think it's people expressing their bitterness about schools that their kids couldn't get into. The reality is most parents in the DC metro would love for their kids to attend one of these schools.

+1. I don't even know how you can know whether it's overrated or not unless you or your kid went there. It's just people grousing.

It's an opinion. People are allowed to have opinions.

Yes, but an opinion based on what if they have no experience with the school? The only legit response has been from the PP re NYU.

At least NYU is in a world class city, eastern seaboard, and on the Acela.

Tulane is in a violent and humid sewer in the middle of nowhere. And U of Michigan is in a cold grey provincial podunk college town in the middle of nowhere; where the "big city" life is nearby Detroit, which just earned FBI's no. 1 most dangerous city in America.

Why would anyone choose to go to college in a region nobody wants to live in after college? Every Tulane and Michigan kid flees those regions immediately after graduating.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is always NYU.

-1st generation college grad who went to NYU

Why do you think it is overrated?
The cost ?

Costs.
Administration that’s more focused on real estate expansion than education.
Extremely low pay for adjuncts and PhD students relative to cost of living.

I was a double-major in Tisch (Film) and CAS (Political Science). Nearly everyone I know from Tisch is no longer in the arts field. I was friends with a ton of acting students and I know only one who “made it.” The rest? Working in a gym, paralegal, etc in their late 30s. I’m still close with about 10 people from my Film program and only two still work in the industry (one is a union editor the other makes documentaries but has a very low income).

It’s a school that doesn’t instill any sense of reality in most of its students. My friends in other CAS majors got their PhDs at great schools, but struggling in academia to make ends meet. We are all late 30s.

There are great programs at NYU - Stern, pre-med tracks, neuroscience, math. But outside of that, it’s a lot of broken dreams. Career counseling is atrocious.

Seriously trying to figure out how the fact that people decided not to pursue their dreams is the fault of the school. Nobody hires you in entertainment because you went to a school. They hire you because you are good, or fit the role, or made a good film or otherwise took the initiative to make your own opportunity. Donald Glover is a relatively recent NYU Tisch grad. Dreams or hustle -- all on you buddy.

Columbia

Anonymous wrote:Harvard. No focus on teaching undergrads, who are mostly ignored by the important faculty celebrities who populate Cambridge.

Harvard grad students, on the other hand, can get plum jobs teaching ignored undergrads and doing cool research projects on behalf of the celebs.

That is true of a lot of the top ranked schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is always NYU.

-1st generation college grad who went to NYU

Why do you think it is overrated?
The cost ?

Costs.
Administration that’s more focused on real estate expansion than education.
Extremely low pay for adjuncts and PhD students relative to cost of living.

I was a double-major in Tisch (Film) and CAS (Political Science). Nearly everyone I know from Tisch is no longer in the arts field. I was friends with a ton of acting students and I know only one who “made it.” The rest? Working in a gym, paralegal, etc in their late 30s. I’m still close with about 10 people from my Film program and only two still work in the industry (one is a union editor the other makes documentaries but has a very low income).

It’s a school that doesn’t instill any sense of reality in most of its students. My friends in other CAS majors got their PhDs at great schools, but struggling in academia to make ends meet. We are all late 30s.

There are great programs at NYU - Stern, pre-med tracks, neuroscience, math. But outside of that, it’s a lot of broken dreams. Career counseling is atrocious.

Thanks for sharing. I had the opposite experience. I posted earlier about how rigorous I thought the curriculum was. I decided to graduate early at the last minute, as a philosophy major, and I got a job at a major investment bank, solely due to career services. My friends are mostly from arts and sciences and have done very well for themselves. I went on to a different graduate school and I have a good job. But it's a gigantic school, so very reasonable that people would have different experiences.

PP here:
That’s understandable that people in different programs had much different experiences.

Tho, I have to ask: how the hell did you parlay a Philosophy degree into an I-banking job out of undergrad? I was under the impression from career services that banks wouldn’t even bother interview those outside of Stern, Econ, and hard science majors. The banks already had so many applicants from those programs that they couldn’t/wouldn’t interview others.

I actually now work in the financial industry, but that’s due to going back for a masters in Econ.

That's a great question! So it's true that the I-Banking divisions would probably just recruit at Stern. However, the Operations Divisions often look at Arts and Sciences and that's how I was able to get in. I talked up my concentration in Logic being a good fit for Ops, and worked out well for me. But most of my major just was (really difficult) philosophy classes (NYU and Princeton were the philosophy powerhouses at least at that time). The plan was originally pre-law, but not going in that direction ended up being fine. Having to read some dense prose, make sense of it, follow the argument, analyze it, speak about it, write about it.... all of these skills are helpful and lend themselves to many things. Often on this board when parents are nervous about the majors their children are choosing and the job prospects, I tend to be in the camp of- let them do it. Let them do what interests them and what they are going to get good grades in. Especially if it's the kind of student who can do a good job and explaining and defending their abilities and tying them to prospective job responsibilities. A kid who is less skilled at interviewing and needs their resume to speak for itself, should maybe rely on those high paying major categories. Just my opinion!

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is always NYU.

-1st generation college grad who went to NYU

Why do you think it is overrated?
The cost ?

Costs.
Administration that’s more focused on real estate expansion than education.
Extremely low pay for adjuncts and PhD students relative to cost of living.

I was a double-major in Tisch (Film) and CAS (Political Science). Nearly everyone I know from Tisch is no longer in the arts field. I was friends with a ton of acting students and I know only one who “made it.” The rest? Working in a gym, paralegal, etc in their late 30s. I’m still close with about 10 people from my Film program and only two still work in the industry (one is a union editor the other makes documentaries but has a very low income).

It’s a school that doesn’t instill any sense of reality in most of its students. My friends in other CAS majors got their PhDs at great schools, but struggling in academia to make ends meet. We are all late 30s.

There are great programs at NYU - Stern, pre-med tracks, neuroscience, math. But outside of that, it’s a lot of broken dreams. Career counseling is atrocious.

Thanks for sharing. I had the opposite experience. I posted earlier about how rigorous I thought the curriculum was. I decided to graduate early at the last minute, as a philosophy major, and I got a job at a major investment bank, solely due to career services. My friends are mostly from arts and sciences and have done very well for themselves. I went on to a different graduate school and I have a good job. But it's a gigantic school, so very reasonable that people would have different experiences.

PP here:
That’s understandable that people in different programs had much different experiences.

Tho, I have to ask: how the hell did you parlay a Philosophy degree into an I-banking job out of undergrad? I was under the impression from career services that banks wouldn’t even bother interview those outside of Stern, Econ, and hard science majors. The banks already had so many applicants from those programs that they couldn’t/wouldn’t interview others.

I actually now work in the financial industry, but that’s due to going back for a masters in Econ.

Anonymous wrote:Penn State

+1

GW.

Penn State

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer is always NYU.

-1st generation college grad who went to NYU

Why do you think it is overrated?
The cost ?

Costs.
Administration that’s more focused on real estate expansion than education.
Extremely low pay for adjuncts and PhD students relative to cost of living.

I was a double-major in Tisch (Film) and CAS (Political Science). Nearly everyone I know from Tisch is no longer in the arts field. I was friends with a ton of acting students and I know only one who “made it.” The rest? Working in a gym, paralegal, etc in their late 30s. I’m still close with about 10 people from my Film program and only two still work in the industry (one is a union editor the other makes documentaries but has a very low income).

It’s a school that doesn’t instill any sense of reality in most of its students. My friends in other CAS majors got their PhDs at great schools, but struggling in academia to make ends meet. We are all late 30s.

There are great programs at NYU - Stern, pre-med tracks, neuroscience, math. But outside of that, it’s a lot of broken dreams. Career counseling is atrocious.

Thanks for sharing. I had the opposite experience. I posted earlier about how rigorous I thought the curriculum was. I decided to graduate early at the last minute, as a philosophy major, and I got a job at a major investment bank, solely due to career services. My friends are mostly from arts and sciences and have done very well for themselves. I went on to a different graduate school and I have a good job. But it's a gigantic school, so very reasonable that people would have different experiences.