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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

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Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

Do we really want to become China though? Really? Are the Chinese loving life over there?

we overtook Europe long ago- their quality of life seems pretty high compared to the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with living in an eclipsed nation

Lol have you ever lived in Europe? And which country are you talking about? QOL varies based on country. If we are eclipsed, however, we will be a LOT worse off than Europeans.

We could all just become self sufficient, just look at the Amish. I would have no problem with that QOL.

Anonymous wrote:I’m not Asian myself so I’m wondering which Asians do all this test prepping? Asians are a pretty diverse group actually. Is it Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese? I hate to lump them all together when they are not the same.

On balance, most on this forum are referring to Indians and Koreans. Certainly not all members of those communities prep, but they dominate the TJ space so they get the most attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

Do we really want to become China though? Really? Are the Chinese loving life over there?

we overtook Europe long ago- their quality of life seems pretty high compared to the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with living in an eclipsed nation

Lol have you ever lived in Europe? And which country are you talking about? QOL varies based on country. If we are eclipsed, however, we will be a LOT worse off than Europeans.

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

I would never be able to move to China and speak disrespectfully about the mother land like people freely do here. Ironic huh?

Maybe take your meds and try to stay on topic. We’re not talking political differences between China and US here.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not Asian myself so I’m wondering which Asians do all this test prepping? Asians are a pretty diverse group actually. Is it Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese? I hate to lump them all together when they are not the same.

Keep in mind that NOT ALL ASIANS PREP! I'm Asian American and my DD did not prep. All of these threads on dcum make it seem like we all prep. It's a stereotype and racist.

I'm not saying all, but there's a large contingent of Indians who prep. Also groups of Chinese, Koreans, Russians and Nigerians who prep. Whites too (ask anyone at Longfellow).

Anonymous wrote:I’m not Asian myself so I’m wondering which Asians do all this test prepping? Asians are a pretty diverse group actually. Is it Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese? I hate to lump them all together when they are not the same.

Keep in mind that NOT ALL ASIANS PREP! I'm Asian American and my DD did not prep. All of these threads on dcum make it seem like we all prep. It's a stereotype and racist.

I’m not Asian myself so I’m wondering which Asians do all this test prepping? Asians are a pretty diverse group actually. Is it Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese? I hate to lump them all together when they are not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

Do we really want to become China though? Really? Are the Chinese loving life over there?

Are you dense? If China reaches the top, economically and technologically speaking, the US will be its bitch, as well as all other countries. Keep in mind, the Chinese regime is not a benevolent one.

We managed just fine until maybe 30 years ago when we decided we wanted to outsource everything. Our most colossal mistake ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

Do we really want to become China though? Really? Are the Chinese loving life over there?

we overtook Europe long ago- their quality of life seems pretty high compared to the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with living in an eclipsed nation

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Anonymous wrote:Standardized test taking has become a type of game, that’s why we are comparing it to sports! How is this actually preparing kids for real adult life?

+1 - it's not

We should have all kids, not just STEM, choose a path in HS and follow that, no real need for standardized tests. They do something similar in Europe. Make HS similar to college or an apprenticeship. We are going about this all wrong. Half, if not more, of the facts memorized for tests is useless anyhow, these tests prove nothing.

Last time I checked Europe put students on different tracks still largely based on test results. Parent’s self claims aren’t sufficient.

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

Do we really want to become China though? Really? Are the Chinese loving life over there?

Are you dense? If China reaches the top, economically and technologically speaking, the US will be its bitch, as well as all other countries. Keep in mind, the Chinese regime is not a benevolent one.

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

I would never be able to move to China and speak disrespectfully about the mother land like people freely do here. Ironic huh?

Ha, it standard test don’t measure a thing, how do you know that your kids have better knowledge than those who score better? It’s the common mindset for many whites: when it comes to academic preparation, the Asians are doing too much, the blacks are doing too little, they are the ones doing just right. Talking about self-righteousness and hypocrisy ....

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Anonymous wrote:Way back when I was a kid, these tests were supposed to measure what you know. So if you study hard, do your homework, and understand what you are learning in school, you don’t have to “prep” for the test.

Now, it seems the tests don’t measure what you know; they measure if you know how to take the test.

As a parent, I will totally make sure my kids know their math facts, read widely and have a large vocabulary, etc., but I draw the line at coaching a 10-year-old on test-taking strategies.

+1

Exactly! And that is precisely why it is considered cheating, even though the groups that over prep don't want to call it that. Instead, they want to call the white students "lazy" for not prepping - and even try to draw an analogy with sports. BS. Give me a break.

Welcome to 2020.. You know what else is different from back in your day, pretty much everything.

You know these doddering old bags want to go back to the 50’s or 60’s or whenever the hell they grew up. The world has passed them by and they don’t have a clue. FYI PP’s, China is overtaking the US.

Do we really want to become China though? Really? Are the Chinese loving life over there?

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Anonymous wrote:Standardized test taking has become a type of game, that’s why we are comparing it to sports! How is this actually preparing kids for real adult life?

+1 - it's not

We should have all kids, not just STEM, choose a path in HS and follow that, no real need for standardized tests. They do something similar in Europe. Make HS similar to college or an apprenticeship. We are going about this all wrong. Half, if not more, of the facts memorized for tests is useless anyhow, these tests prove nothing.