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Anonymous wrote:Lifelong Catholic and 18 veteran of Catholic schools here... ND wants to protect football $$$ but did not have any doctors as part of their Covid committee. Their surveillance testing is non existent. The administration does not inspire confidence... God helps those who help themselves...

No doctors on the COVID committee???

A reality show star, on his third trophy wife, with orange skin is running the United States???

When will I wake from this nightmare

+1

Anonymous wrote:Lifelong Catholic and 18 veteran of Catholic schools here... ND wants to protect football $$$ but did not have any doctors as part of their Covid committee. Their surveillance testing is non existent. The administration does not inspire confidence... God helps those who help themselves...

No doctors on the COVID committee???

A reality show star, on his third trophy wife, with orange skin is running the United States???

When will I wake from this nightmare

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from the ND student paper and has a lot more details about the new restrictions.

Honestly it sounds miserable for the kids. There is no good answer, but I think most of the students would be happier at home with their families. This has to be especially hard for the freshmen who don't even know one another yet.

https://ndsmcobserver.com/2020/08/nd-classes-to-switch-online-for-next-two-weeks-to-halt-the-spread-of-virus/

My DD is a freshman at ND and is miserable. The restrictions that they've had in place have not made it a anything remotely close to a college-like experience. Grab-n-go food is terrible, no sports, no clubs, difficult to connect with masks, etc. She was ready to come home before yesterday's announcement. Now with the new restrictions, it'll be even worse.

Are you for real? How was this a surprise to you? ND made it clear that school would be different and you ignored it. Go cry somewhere else. You and your kid had ample opportunity to be aware. Go ahead and convince your kid that she'll be damaged forever by this. Don't even mention the pandemic and that some kids have lost their parents or other family members. Poor baby. Her freshman year experience isn't what she expected.

JFC. I have 2 in college who both have to dl and I am sick to death of posts like this.

I'm sorry. I know that ND is not a school where many students from the same class from high school would attend, because it is so hard to get in. State university students usually benefit from going in knowing someone. ND has a very robust dorm system, though. Has the dorm planned appropriate social activities? My DD's living-learning community has already planned a Zoom platonic "speed dating" activity, for instance. Maybe it should be renamed "Speed Friendship" or "Speed Networking" or something. Next week is a Zoom Escape Room. All of this is before the kids even move in. The dorm staff at ND has many adults who should be helping to form community. Don't be afraid to reach out if your daughter is that miserable. ND is one of the last colleges left that takes "in loco parentis" seriously.

Lifelong Catholic and 18 veteran of Catholic schools here... ND wants to protect football $$$ but did not have any doctors as part of their Covid committee. Their surveillance testing is non existent. The administration does not inspire confidence... God helps those who help themselves...

I too hope they turn it around by quarantining everyone for 2 weeks in their dorms.

Anonymous wrote:Let me know when kids actually move out of South Bend en masse. Until then, this just seems like phony hysteria driven by anti-Catholic media and atheists.

I’m Catholic. I went to Notre Dame myself. I don’t see this as phony hysteria. I think people see a school that seemed to have a solid plan, and now that plan is proving unworkable almost immediately out of the gate. Of course there will be cases. But surely it’s obvious how quickly a few cases can turn into a few hundred cases. It would not be logistically possible for any school to quarantine hundreds and hundreds of students (students who test positive and all their close contacts) for weeks on end. Food service, medical oversight—that requires a huge amount of staff, and that doesn’t even take into account their classes. ND is an amazing place but they cannot work miracles. For the sake of college students everywhere, I hope they can turn this around. Time will tell.

What exactly do you disagree with? Are you saying this generation isn’t sacrificing?

Anonymous wrote:Let me know when kids actually move out of South Bend en masse. Until then, this just seems like phony hysteria driven by anti-Catholic media and atheists.

You are nuts. Really. Truly. Nuts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from the ND student paper and has a lot more details about the new restrictions.

Honestly it sounds miserable for the kids. There is no good answer, but I think most of the students would be happier at home with their families. This has to be especially hard for the freshmen who don't even know one another yet.

https://ndsmcobserver.com/2020/08/nd-classes-to-switch-online-for-next-two-weeks-to-halt-the-spread-of-virus/

My DD is a freshman at ND and is miserable. The restrictions that they've had in place have not made it a anything remotely close to a college-like experience. Grab-n-go food is terrible, no sports, no clubs, difficult to connect with masks, etc. She was ready to come home before yesterday's announcement. Now with the new restrictions, it'll be even worse.

Are you for real? How was this a surprise to you? ND made it clear that school would be different and you ignored it. Go cry somewhere else. You and your kid had ample opportunity to be aware. Go ahead and convince your kid that she'll be damaged forever by this. Don't even mention the pandemic and that some kids have lost their parents or other family members. Poor baby. Her freshman year experience isn't what she expected.

JFC. I have 2 in college who both have to dl and I am sick to death of posts like this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this is proof we have raised a generation of selfish partiers who care nothing for others if it means delaying any gratification for themselves.

Possibly a tangent, but the collective sacrifice the younger generation is currently making for a much older generation is massive and rarely acknowledged.

+1000
They experience the cost of social distancing harder (they are at an age when they are trying to form lifelong bonds with people they've never met before) and the cost of not social distancing weaker (they rarely get seriously ill). All that can motivate them is an interest in the collective well-being of society and their elders. And they've been given inconsistent information about what to do, what works etc. They will be bearing the economic costs of this through taxes in their futures. I've been impressed.

I disagree. Unless you want to start looking at collective sacrifices that other generations made before this one -- in WW II, for example. Or the collective sacrifices medical professionals are making to treat overwhelming volumes of sick people in a pandemic. To sacrifice is part of being human, or a least a good human as Christ demonstrated (and this is a Catholic school, btw). I know as parents we want to protect our kids and I'm not discounting the horrible impact this is having on college-age kids. I've got two college kids myself. But anyone who doesn't think this generation has been pampered, and as unfortunate as the timing may be, could benefit from a wake up call that sometimes things just happen and you have to adapt -- as opposed to getting your parents to buy your way out of the problem.

Anonymous wrote:Anti-Catholic media????????????????

Talk about paranoid.

Have you seen all of the publicity about a PUBLIC high school in GA?

You have issues PP

Any criticism about ND is anti-Catholic? Don't you know that?

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Anonymous wrote:222 positive

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-covid-cases-222-off-campus-party/

How many in hospital? Safe bet 0. How many are even showing symptoms? Safe bet <5, if not 0 as well. Otherwise we'd know both of these and they'd be the lede. "Hospitals in South Bend overrun with Catholic college students!"

Google "covid timeline hospitalization" and you'll see it isn't immediate. It takes 8-12 days for symptoms to get to the level requiring hospitalization.

And in case you are wondering, at least one student was rushed to ER. Her story is on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/notredame/comments/ibuw14/my_gf_and_is_covid_story/g1yzopq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:222 positive

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-covid-cases-222-off-campus-party/

How many in hospital? Safe bet 0. How many are even showing symptoms? Safe bet <5, if not 0 as well. Otherwise we'd know both of these and they'd be the lede. "Hospitals in South Bend overrun with Catholic college students!"

Repeating for the dullards in the back:

Everyone agrees that teens and young adults are not usually very severely affected by this virus (although they can have a severe case and be in need of hospitalization.) They aren't the at risk demographic.

The risk to our communities is when COVID spreads in the community, uncontrolled, and then affects the larger community. The professors, the custodians, the health care workers, the food service workers. The Starbucks worker (or the Starbucks customers). The librarian assistant. They get infected and then the illness sprads in the rest of the community -- to their neighbors, grandparents, dental hygenists.

The rest of the world has figured out that, although this virus moves slowly, if left to spread, it will create monuental chaos in a community in about 6-8 weeks. To stop that, communities with a major outbreak need to move to a stay at home order.

So uncontrolled spread in a campus setting needs to be stopped so the rest of the community can be spared the need for a stay at home order (and illness and death among its older members).

I'm really glad that there aren't a ton of college aged kids needing hospitalization, and would only even expect about 5% maximum of this age group to need to be seen in an ER. Even then the need for hospital care doesn't happen right away, but more after 2 weeks.

But need for hospitalization is a late indicator of an outbreak. And the most important thing to dealing with COVID is to NOT HAVE ANY OUTBREAKS.

We know half a dozen kids at Notre Dame and St Mary's right now. Their social media has been full of peers hanging out and drinking and socializing. There's no hysteria, looks like normal kids having clean fun.

Anti-Catholic media????????????????

Talk about paranoid.

Have you seen all of the publicity about a PUBLIC high school in GA?

You have issues PP