Anonymous
Post 06/15/2020 00:36     Subject: Re:Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to be a total debacle. Hopefully it won't spread, because it will set back progressive politics in this country by 10-20 years. It's just the kind of pie-in-the-sky thinking the liberals of yesteryear would have come up with. God, I hope this idea dies. Reform yes, abolish/defund, though, is silly.


Abolishing slavery is a ridiculous pie-in-the-sky idea that some ridiculous liberals came up with. Yes, we agree that it can be a bit cruel, but we think that moderates will get on board with a book to ensure that the number of bearings and rapes is limited to a reasonable amount.


I really hope this was posted by a troll.


It was the prevailing attitude during slavery. Ok, the last part was made up to show how ridiculous a moderate compromise can be.


“ It was the prevailing attitude during slavery.”.

Was? You’re aware slavery is still a thing, right? By some definitions there are about 40 million enslaved people in the world, right now.

Anonymous
Post 06/15/2020 00:29     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's a Washington Post piece on the movement/ideas. I think that addresses a lot of the concerns brought up here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/


With all due respect to Professor Lopez, she's using words like "defund" and "abolish" to describe what are fundamentally reforms to the police and idea of policing. Words matter. Most Americans are not going to engage in a thought exercise to understand words like "defund" and "abolish" in ways that seemingly run in contradiction to their conventional definitions.

Defund: prevent from continuing to receive funds.
Abolish: formally put an end to.

Again, words matter. There are significant political implications for how these concepts around the police are understood and received by the broader American public.

In absolute terms, "defunding" or "abolishing" the police is going to cost the Democrats votes in November.


words don't matter when you're stupid.

extreme, exaggerated words don't matter when you're extreme either.

to attempt to talk bad a word like DEFUND and pretend it doesn't mean defund, is just incredulous and ridiculous. You made your pick, not change it or live with it. Don't make up a new definition for a word. Guess you just hope all the leftist you riled up won't later be pissed no defunding actually happened. Even Biden wants to add resources to police forces.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 23:37     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
“Defund” slogan must have been invented by the Republican National Committee. It’s probably the only thing that has a chance to save them in November...
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 23:22     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quote from WaPo article today:

"Homicides in the District are up 11 percent from this time last year, when the city recorded a decade-high number of killings."


Sounds like policing isn't working.


Yeah they eased up on the thugs
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 23:16     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Quote from WaPo article today:

"Homicides in the District are up 11 percent from this time last year, when the city recorded a decade-high number of killings."


Sounds like policing isn't working.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 22:39     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Quote from WaPo article today:

"Homicides in the District are up 11 percent from this time last year, when the city recorded a decade-high number of killings."
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 23:54     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's a Washington Post piece on the movement/ideas. I think that addresses a lot of the concerns brought up here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/


With all due respect to Professor Lopez, she's using words like "defund" and "abolish" to describe what are fundamentally reforms to the police and idea of policing. Words matter. Most Americans are not going to engage in a thought exercise to understand words like "defund" and "abolish" in ways that seemingly run in contradiction to their conventional definitions.

Defund: prevent from continuing to receive funds.
Abolish: formally put an end to.

Again, words matter. There are significant political implications for how these concepts around the police are understood and received by the broader American public.

In absolute terms, "defunding" or "abolishing" the police is going to cost the Democrats votes in November.


It's terrible marketing.

Then again, once you familiarize with the ideals, you see why the wording makes sense. What we should be asking, is why the bias in media is stopping people from making informed decisions.
Sometimes I feel so sick listening to the news. It would be nice if there was a channel dedicated to news instead of telling you what to to think
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 10:31     Subject: Re:Defund MPD - thoughts?
Politically, the cops are in a world of trouble. Big changes are coming.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 10:26     Subject: Re:Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Police unions are the problem.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/05/871298161/police-unions-and-police-violence


Other trade unions hate police unions.


THIS.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 10:06     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's a Washington Post piece on the movement/ideas. I think that addresses a lot of the concerns brought up here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/


With all due respect to Professor Lopez, she's using words like "defund" and "abolish" to describe what are fundamentally reforms to the police and idea of policing. Words matter. Most Americans are not going to engage in a thought exercise to understand words like "defund" and "abolish" in ways that seemingly run in contradiction to their conventional definitions.

Defund: prevent from continuing to receive funds.
Abolish: formally put an end to.

Again, words matter. There are significant political implications for how these concepts around the police are understood and received by the broader American public.

In absolute terms, "defunding" or "abolishing" the police is going to cost the Democrats votes in November.


It's terrible marketing.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 09:30     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Here's a Washington Post piece on the movement/ideas. I think that addresses a lot of the concerns brought up here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/


With all due respect to Professor Lopez, she's using words like "defund" and "abolish" to describe what are fundamentally reforms to the police and idea of policing. Words matter. Most Americans are not going to engage in a thought exercise to understand words like "defund" and "abolish" in ways that seemingly run in contradiction to their conventional definitions.

Defund: prevent from continuing to receive funds.
Abolish: formally put an end to.

Again, words matter. There are significant political implications for how these concepts around the police are understood and received by the broader American public.

In absolute terms, "defunding" or "abolishing" the police is going to cost the Democrats votes in November.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 09:25     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eliminating the police WILL finally halt gentrification! It’ll stop it in it’s tracks.

Not too mention instantly boost home prices in the close-in suburbs by a couple hundred thousand bucks overnight.


I predict we’ve now passed the high-point in home values in the city.





I hope you're selling and moving. We won't miss you.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 09:23     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Eliminating the police WILL finally halt gentrification! It’ll stop it in it’s tracks.

Not too mention instantly boost home prices in the close-in suburbs by a couple hundred thousand bucks overnight.


I predict we’ve now passed the high-point in home values in the city.



Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 09:20     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people want anarchy? Cause that’s what happens when there is no police.


Could you point me to evidence or studies that support this?


Somalia? A third of the states in Mexico? Syria?

Essentially no police presence in those places. But plenty of anarchy.


Are you trying to sound deliberately stupid? What is your game here?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2020 08:29     Subject: Defund MPD - thoughts?
Here's a Washington Post piece on the movement/ideas. I think that addresses a lot of the concerns brought up here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/