Anonymous
04/14/2020 15:42
Subject: How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The important networking in college is with the professors who may or may not have industry connections and hosted events. At worst, being chummy with a professor might land you a recommendation letter.
Cool. I'll get a sweet LoR from my Sanskri prof and be set for life.
You seem to be set on sarcasm. . .
Anonymous
04/14/2020 15:02
Subject: How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:The important networking in college is with the professors who may or may not have industry connections and hosted events. At worst, being chummy with a professor might land you a recommendation letter.
Cool. I'll get a sweet LoR from my Sanskri prof and be set for life.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:56
Subject: How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
The important networking in college is with the professors who may or may not have industry connections and hosted events. At worst, being chummy with a professor might land you a recommendation letter.
From personal experience, the peers in my classes didn’t do much for my career but the professional events on campus where businesses visited helped a lot. I work for a large, multi-national firm that gets hundreds or thousands of resumes each week. After applying with no success for a year and a half, I met an executive at an event hosted by the university and was working there within the month due to making a good impression.
From personal experience, the peers in my classes didn’t do much for my career but the professional events on campus where businesses visited helped a lot. I work for a large, multi-national firm that gets hundreds or thousands of resumes each week. After applying with no success for a year and a half, I met an executive at an event hosted by the university and was working there within the month due to making a good impression.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:52
Subject: How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
My son got his internship this summer through networking. He is in a field with plentiful jobs. Through things like his business fraternity and another student org interest group, he was able to interact with students who referred him to his companies of interest, get tips on who to talk to and how to succeed in the interview, and hear speakers and presentations from various companies that he then connected with on LinkedIn or emailed afterwards to thank. In the interview he was then able to talk about how he connected with XYZ employees and really identified with the culture or whatever. This seems to be pretty commonplace among college students...?
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:51
Subject: Re:How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:
Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.
This may be true back when you went to college, but college students do network to get jobs today, especially business school students and some engineering majors. Companies outright hold networking events and invite students that they are interested in to these events.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:40
Subject: Re:How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.
The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.
Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."
Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?
Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.
My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.
Do you enjoy being a kid?
Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?
Shrugs.
DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol
Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.
And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).
PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.
Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).
Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.
Weird. My daughter is graduating in December and got all of her internships and her full time job she’s slated to start in July through networking. At what school are you a professor?
That's great but your daughter is an outlier.
Not among her classmates and friends.
Perhaps she is in a field without plentiful jobs, then. Normally networking is not required out of college to obtain a job.
Who said it is required?
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:36
Subject: Re:How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.
The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.
Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."
Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?
Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.
My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.
Do you enjoy being a kid?
Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?
Shrugs.
DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol
Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.
And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).
PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.
Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).
Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.
Weird. My daughter is graduating in December and got all of her internships and her full time job she’s slated to start in July through networking. At what school are you a professor?
That's great but your daughter is an outlier.
Not among her classmates and friends.
Perhaps she is in a field without plentiful jobs, then. Normally networking is not required out of college to obtain a job.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:23
Subject: How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
OP your daughter should go to Princeton. It has a much better website.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:20
Subject: Re:How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.
The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.
Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."
Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?
Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.
My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.
Do you enjoy being a kid?
Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?
Shrugs.
DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol
Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.
And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).
PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.
Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).
Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.
Weird. My daughter is graduating in December and got all of her internships and her full time job she’s slated to start in July through networking. At what school are you a professor?
That's great but your daughter is an outlier.
Not among her classmates and friends.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:16
Subject: Re:How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.
The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.
Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."
Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?
Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.
My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.
Do you enjoy being a kid?
Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?
Shrugs.
DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol
Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.
And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).
PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.
Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).
Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.
Weird. My daughter is graduating in December and got all of her internships and her full time job she’s slated to start in July through networking. At what school are you a professor?
That's great but your daughter is an outlier.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 13:15
Subject: Re:How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.
The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.
Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."
Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?
Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.
My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.
Do you enjoy being a kid?
Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?
Shrugs.
DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol
Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.
And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).
PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.
Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).
Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.
Weird. My daughter is graduating in December and got all of her internships and her full time job she’s slated to start in July through networking. At what school are you a professor?