Anonymous wrote:In the U.S. for 2018, there were 48,344 recorded suicides, up from 42,773 in 2014, according to the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). On average, adjusted for age, the annual U.S. suicide rate increased 24% between 1999 and 2014, from 10.5 to 13.0 suicides per 100,000 people, the highest rate recorded in 28 years. I am sure we will surpass that this year due to this lock down and economic downturn.

Wow that seems kinda high.

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In Italy there are over 4000 suicide deaths, increase of 12% due to the economic downturn.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/suicide-in-italy-its-an-e_b_10597478

Thanks for sharing! This in the other side of the coin. Deaths that will happen as a result of economic downturn.

This article is from 2016/2017. Anything newer?

Probably will not know the final outcome until next year. It will be interesting to compare the numbers. News outlets would not dare report on this. Would have to dig deep to find the answer.

Anonymous wrote:https://spectator.org/coronavirus-the-price-of-luxury/

Maybe this is why it hit Italy so quickly and so hard. Then, it hit the old people.

Yup. I referenced this earlier in the thread. It’s just the facts.

Italy is the size of Michigan with a population equal to the sum of both California and New York states. Plus a very elderly population, most who live with extended family. And totally worthless bureaucrats.

Anyone recall “The Talented Mr Ripley” with Matt Damon and Jude Law? Jude has a line where he calls Italy “not a civilized country...it’s actually primitive” when an ambulance takes over an hour to arrive after his mistress drowns.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe we are dealing with more than one virus.

My cousin in Italy (South) said the same thing. He mentioned a strain in Germany.

I find this really interesting. You all have any more to share on this?

I too think there is more than one strain.

I believe it’s already confirmed to be two strains of the same virus. Type L and Type S

There has been some de-bunking of this hypothesis, which came from one Chinese paper.

And the debunking was one paper. We don’t know.

https://spectator.org/coronavirus-the-price-of-luxury/

Maybe this is why it hit Italy so quickly and so hard. Then, it hit the old people.

In the U.S. for 2018, there were 48,344 recorded suicides, up from 42,773 in 2014, according to the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). On average, adjusted for age, the annual U.S. suicide rate increased 24% between 1999 and 2014, from 10.5 to 13.0 suicides per 100,000 people, the highest rate recorded in 28 years. I am sure we will surpass that this year due to this lock down and economic downturn.

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In Italy there are over 4000 suicide deaths, increase of 12% due to the economic downturn.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/suicide-in-italy-its-an-e_b_10597478

Thanks for sharing! This in the other side of the coin. Deaths that will happen as a result of economic downturn.

This article is from 2016/2017. Anything newer?

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In Italy there are over 4000 suicide deaths, increase of 12% due to the economic downturn.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/suicide-in-italy-its-an-e_b_10597478

Thanks for sharing! This in the other side of the coin. Deaths that will happen as a result of economic downturn.

Also how many deaths are accurately being attributed to COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:As we test more, we will have more positives. I'm honestly not concerned about that; it's good to test more, and that number would be A LOT higher, were we actually testing people on a massive scale, like South Korea has. The number that concerns me more, is the number of deaths. We hit 100 on Tuesday, I believe. We've added 60 more in the subsequent 2 days, which is a bad trajectory to be on.

We are still not at South Korea, or Germany's level in testing. It is very concerning the jump in cases. Our test positive rate is at 10 - 11% which is high.

Both Germany and South Korea have handled this well. Both with testing and appreciate use of quarantine.

I also like that Germany told it's citizens early on most would get it kind of prevents panic.

In Italy there are over 4000 suicide deaths, increase of 12% due to the economic downturn.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/suicide-in-italy-its-an-e_b_10597478

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Anonymous wrote:I believe we are dealing with more than one virus.

My cousin in Italy (South) said the same thing. He mentioned a strain in Germany.

I find this really interesting. You all have any more to share on this?

I too think there is more than one strain.

I believe it’s already confirmed to be two strains of the same virus. Type L and Type S

There has been some de-bunking of this hypothesis, which came from one Chinese paper.

When it's all said in done I believe we will find we were dealing with more than one strain and more than one virus.

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As of March 19, 2020, 15:35 GMT, we have 10,767 cases and 160 deaths.

This is a massive failure by Trump.

This thread was started two days ago. Now we have 24,143 confirmed cases and 288 deaths.

Our hospitals can't handle this spike. We have been adding 5000 cases daily since this thread started. The death rate of 1.2%, though better than Italy and Spain's, is still 12 times of seasonal flu's. I am hoping we will see the curve flatten soon.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe we are dealing with more than one virus.

My cousin in Italy (South) said the same thing. He mentioned a strain in Germany.

I find this really interesting. You all have any more to share on this?

I too think there is more than one strain.

I believe it’s already confirmed to be two strains of the same virus. Type L and Type S

There has been some de-bunking of this hypothesis, which came from one Chinese paper.