Anonymous
03/17/2020 13:08
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:There *are*, in fact, tests on this planet. People who are saying there are no tests are wrong. There just aren't tests in the US, and the ones we do have are being saved for the critically ill, health care workers, and apparently the NBA. At least the first two make sense, but even then there still aren't enough.
We all understand there is no treatment. I'm the poster who compared the "there is no treatment" crowd to the "it's just a bad flu" crowd, and my point was that in both cases people are thinking as individuals, concerned only with themselves. If you get covid, you will probably be fine, but no one actually gives a sht about you - the real issue is that you may spread the virus to someone who won't be fine. We are trying to protect the most vulnerable. This is about community and our moral obligations to one another.
Similarly, if you, a single individual, do not get a test, it will be fine. But again, no one gives a sht about any one individual here. The lack of tests - IN THE US, NOT ON PLANET EARTH - is a systemic failure indicative of larger problems that will prevent us from handling this properly and it is going to cost lives. Testing OP is not just for OP. It's also for the health care workers who interacted with her. You think they like not knowing whether or not she actually has it, whether or not they've been exposed? You think it's effective to take a health care worker offline while they wait two weeks to see whether or not they've been exposed (because guess who else can't get a test...)? You think it's helpful to send her back to her community without a clear answer for those she's been in contact with? You think the WHO is stressing testing just because it amuses them?
The problem with pandemics is that dealing with them requires that everyone NOT be a selfish, narcissistic a$$hole. It requires systemic, holistic thinking, which in this country basically makes you a communist. The US' downfall here will be that selfish narcissim is the very core of its entire being, with the most selfish, incompetent, narcissist of all leading the response. [/
No country, other than South Korea, tested widely enough to include mild asymptomatic cases. Should we have more tests? Yes. But if you aren’t a health care worker or other essential worker interacting directly with public, or in a high risk group, you don’t “need” a test. Stay home and assume you do,have Covid 19.. And by the way, 90 percent of the limited tests being given are coming back negative.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 13:07
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:Called three different doctors. Told there are now ZERO tests at GW, ZERO at Georgetown, DOH has no answers. Hoping for more tests to come in, but three of my PCP’s patients were turned away, just today, after waiting hours at GW.
I am white, wealthy, and have very good doctors. There are no tests right now.
Age? What other illnesses do you have?
Anonymous
03/17/2020 13:03
Subject: Re:Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
To pp’s who said you can get tested now: not in dc. They’re still demanding proof of exposure to someone who has tested positive and/or the combination of all of these: travel to China (not even Italy) in the last couple of weeks + high fever, and according to one dc doh official I spoke with, respiratory distress. We just left our doctor after being there all morning. We were just out of state 3 weeks ago with known exposure. Couldn’t get tested because “14 day had passed.” So there’s also time frame restrictions. Yes, we’re symptomatic (of course). Without more tests, the angels of our health care system are scared to risk wasting a single one. That means no testing, basically. It’s heartbreaking and infuriating, the doctors are doing their best, and they have no ability to do what they would do for any other disease that is testable: test.
He told us if we were residents of another state we might fare slightly better. This is horrific, and dc seems even more horrific than other places. We are flying completely blind.
I’m appalled by those who say this doesn’t matter anyway. For my own sanity, I’m trying to tell myself that we’re all operating in different stages of grief, moment to moment. Clearly many are still in the first stage.
He told us if we were residents of another state we might fare slightly better. This is horrific, and dc seems even more horrific than other places. We are flying completely blind.
I’m appalled by those who say this doesn’t matter anyway. For my own sanity, I’m trying to tell myself that we’re all operating in different stages of grief, moment to moment. Clearly many are still in the first stage.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 13:03
Subject: Re:Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A Chicago suburban hospital has just made its own tests that give results in hours. Go Evanston!
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-test-developed-and-available-at-evanston-hospital-with-results-in-just-hours/
Awesome!! Please share with other hospitals!!
Hopkins already has developed a similar test.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 13:01
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one said they expected everyone in the country to be tested multiple times. But if someone feels sick or Los in close contAct with a positive person, there should be enough tests. There’s not.
+1
Yes, this was covered by the experts months ago. We need to test people presenting with symptoms. Contact tracing for positive results. And testing those people. Drive through testing beyond that would be great to diagnose people with mild symptoms.
We aren’t even doing the first thing.
It’s ridiculous that the experts have been pushing this for MONTHS and we still are so far behind.
They don’t do in depth contact tracing once there is community spread.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:59
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
My aunt is a physician in West Virginia and one of her colleagues is pretty sure she has the virus and she was not able to get tested- this is someone who is a healthcare provider and needs to tell people IMMEDIATELY that she has it but she has no information.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:57
Subject: Re:Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
My BIL is a doctor in NYC. His colleague tested positive and BIL is showing symptoms. He was supposed to get tested today but there are no tests. He was sent home and assumed to have it. He had a fever over the weekend and probably has it but he won’t be in any statistics. These numbers are so underreported.
I’m not that worried about BIL. He is young and healthy. I worry about the number of people who are infected and can’t get tested. I thought it was supposed to be healthcare professionals and elderly high risk first. Guess young doctors not included.
I’m not that worried about BIL. He is young and healthy. I worry about the number of people who are infected and can’t get tested. I thought it was supposed to be healthcare professionals and elderly high risk first. Guess young doctors not included.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:53
Subject: Re:Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:A Chicago suburban hospital has just made its own tests that give results in hours. Go Evanston!
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-test-developed-and-available-at-evanston-hospital-with-results-in-just-hours/
Awesome!! Please share with other hospitals!!
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:40
Subject: Re:Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
A Chicago suburban hospital has just made its own tests that give results in hours. Go Evanston!
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-test-developed-and-available-at-evanston-hospital-with-results-in-just-hours/
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-test-developed-and-available-at-evanston-hospital-with-results-in-just-hours/
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:35
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:No one said they expected everyone in the country to be tested multiple times. But if someone feels sick or Los in close contAct with a positive person, there should be enough tests. There’s not.
+1
Yes, this was covered by the experts months ago. We need to test people presenting with symptoms. Contact tracing for positive results. And testing those people. Drive through testing beyond that would be great to diagnose people with mild symptoms.
We aren’t even doing the first thing.
It’s ridiculous that the experts have been pushing this for MONTHS and we still are so far behind.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:32
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:No one said they expected everyone in the country to be tested multiple times. But if someone feels sick or Los in close contAct with a positive person, there should be enough tests. There’s not.
If you’re not that sick STAY HOME.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:31
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
No one said they expected everyone in the country to be tested multiple times. But if someone feels sick or Los in close contAct with a positive person, there should be enough tests. There’s not.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:30
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
Anonymous wrote:OP ~ getting back to your original post:
As a society we need to know. You should be outraged.
Personally, it doesn't nothing for you to know. You act the same anyway. And when/if you or someone is your family needs ER attention, you seek it - and it doesn't matter if COVID is diagnosed.
Yes... OP do you have a primary care physician? Mine emailed all patients last night and said they are able to test if they determine it’s needed. I hope people are checking with their PCPs before going to the ED. Unless it’s an urgent or life threatening emergency, your PCP should always manage your medical care. Same with pediatricians. You shouldn’t ever be in a position of calling around to hospitals for tests.
Also, if you don’t have a PCP, hopefully this is a good wake up call to inspire people to find and see one regularly. Absolutely not trying to minimize or criticize anyone, but this is the way our health care system is designed to work (and I think it’s a good thing).
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:22
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
I'm not sure why you all thought the US was EVER going to be able to test every single one of us once, if not more than once. That simply isn't feasible, but more importantly NOT LOGICAL.
How many of us have gone to the doctor and gotten a negative flu test, and then told "it's just a random virus, go home"? They don't test for any and all viruses. You know why? Because it doesn't make sense to. Guess what South Korea has found out from all their testing? MOST people test negative. If every Larla on DCUM was given free access to tests, they'd be testing once a day and draining valuable resources. I'd rather these people be working toward a vaccine/treatment than a damn test.
Oh and for those of you who are saying a test would change your behavior.... you're being told that if you are sick, act like you have it. That's your cue to change your damn behavior, ffs. Listen.
How many of us have gone to the doctor and gotten a negative flu test, and then told "it's just a random virus, go home"? They don't test for any and all viruses. You know why? Because it doesn't make sense to. Guess what South Korea has found out from all their testing? MOST people test negative. If every Larla on DCUM was given free access to tests, they'd be testing once a day and draining valuable resources. I'd rather these people be working toward a vaccine/treatment than a damn test.
Oh and for those of you who are saying a test would change your behavior.... you're being told that if you are sick, act like you have it. That's your cue to change your damn behavior, ffs. Listen.
Anonymous
03/17/2020 12:01
Subject: Told Tonight There are ZERO Tests Here. Fever Climbing Above 102
OP ~ getting back to your original post:
As a society we need to know. You should be outraged.
Personally, it doesn't nothing for you to know. You act the same anyway. And when/if you or someone is your family needs ER attention, you seek it - and it doesn't matter if COVID is diagnosed.
As a society we need to know. You should be outraged.
Personally, it doesn't nothing for you to know. You act the same anyway. And when/if you or someone is your family needs ER attention, you seek it - and it doesn't matter if COVID is diagnosed.