Anonymous
11/18/2019 18:41
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, you have to decide if you are ok with the lies and corruption on Election Day 2020. We are way past policies at this point.
Yup. It’s past thepolicy, and now about the principle.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 18:29
Subject: I feel politically lost
At the end of the day, you have to decide if you are ok with the lies and corruption on Election Day 2020. We are way past policies at this point.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 18:18
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?
I feel you. The two party system is so antiquated.
I am socially progressive and fiscally libertarian. Luckily there is a perfect candidate for millions like myself -- Andrew Yang. He doesn't judge the voters of either political spectrum, and only talks about the merits of a set of forward thinking solutions. Yang doesn't believe illegal immigration is the cause of the loss of millions jobs in the swing states. But he understands why many people felt that way. He intends to solve that problem.
How?
Anonymous
11/18/2019 18:04
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?
I feel you. The two party system is so antiquated.
I am socially progressive and fiscally libertarian. Luckily there is a perfect candidate for millions like myself -- Andrew Yang. He doesn't judge the voters of either political spectrum, and only talks about the merits of a set of forward thinking solutions. Yang doesn't believe illegal immigration is the cause of the loss of millions jobs in the swing states. But he understands why many people felt that way. He intends to solve that problem.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:44
Subject: I feel politically lost
"Tough on Crime" has resulted in a woman inadvertently voting in the wrong precinct and another woman sending her kid to a better school and another woman selling churros on a subway all being incarcerated while white collar crimes like extortion, bribery, voting fraud, police shooting people in the back, police murding people sitting in a car getting off with nothing, or not even being charged.
How is Mike Flynn not in jail? How did Papadopolous only get two weeks?
How is Mike Flynn not in jail? How did Papadopolous only get two weeks?
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:40
Subject: I feel politically lost
Some of these issues should be championed at the local state level, and should be expectations you have from STATE representatives. Can you articulate what your state congress person has done for your state in the last few years?
Yes, of course top cover in the u.s. Congress and presidency on the initiative adds power and substantiates issues, supports finding. But choosing a President based on who will better fix all the potholes in DC is silly. Presidents handle the problems that the toughest experts in the world haven’t been able to resolve.
Domestic violence, poverty, welfare, drug addiction - because those are community issues that are really close to home, it’s really important to have someone outside of the Oval Office also advocating in your district.
Just something to consider for those voting in ANY election.
Yes, of course top cover in the u.s. Congress and presidency on the initiative adds power and substantiates issues, supports finding. But choosing a President based on who will better fix all the potholes in DC is silly. Presidents handle the problems that the toughest experts in the world haven’t been able to resolve.
Domestic violence, poverty, welfare, drug addiction - because those are community issues that are really close to home, it’s really important to have someone outside of the Oval Office also advocating in your district.
Just something to consider for those voting in ANY election.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:30
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
This is me also. Though, I am an immigrant who is already a citizen. I feel the same way as you do about all of those topics. Have traditionally voted Democratic.
I dislike Trump as a person. But I think both Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt.
Trump has my vote in 2020.
PP, look at the issues yourself. Watch the debates. Read about the positions of the Democrat candidates and see who you agree with more.
Both parties are craptastic. So, vote based on the issues.
So you want to vote for Trump based on the issues? Are you insane?
Agree that you PP’s seem to have little in common with Trump. But little in common with popular Dem candidates either! Hence the notion of “feeling lost.”
This is what I hate in current politics: the idea that as a Democrat I have to be on board with the “platform.” Or you’re not a a viable candidate if you don’t agree with a “platform.”
Why don’t we have a Dem candidate who is:
Strong on crime
Against illegal immigration (but humane in handling deportations)
Pro environment
Pro choice
Pro science
Pro consumer protections
Reduce tax burden for middle and upper middle class
Robust foreign policy with reinvestment in diplomatic relations
Strengthen public education standards (as they have been incredibly weakened!)
I'm the PP who was called troll/racist/amoral above.
Yes, exactly. That person would have my vote. Democrat or Republican. Because, really, I don't want to vote for Trump.
But, I don't see that in any of them. Tough on crime? Nope. Against illegal immigration? Nope. Reducing the middle class tax burdern? Nope. Not going to happen with Medicare for All.
You are not being honest. Or you are getting your information from dishonest sources. At some point you need to take responsibility for your choices and your lack of real information.
Can you explain what is dishonest?
Just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean that person is being dishonest. I see nothing dishonest about either post.
NP. I'll take "tough on crime" for 800, Alex.
"Tough on crime" is coded language for the system that has resulted in 10% of our adult population in incarcerated in for-profit prison. It a system where the decision to incarcerate and the length of incarceration have been proven to have strong racial bias against black and latino defendants at both the state and federal level. We've had multiple cases where the juvenile justice system has involved direct cash payments for conviction and the prison lobby spends millions of dollars every year to secure their revenue stream. Meanwhile, violent crime continues to be down across the board.
On a somewhat related note, Prohibition has proven to be 1) completely ineffective in reducing drug usage and 2) disastrous for American foreign policy and stability in Latin America.
Your 10% figure is not correct!
Where I live, homes and cars get broken into ALL the time! There is drug addiction, tons of homelessness. I live in a nice area, too! Poor neighborhoods have it worse, it isn’t right.
In addition to “tough on crime” (you said nothing to dissuade me, btw), I believe in a robust, aggressive program for low-income families to prevent pregnancy, provide parenting programs and mentors, and try to stop circle of violence and poverty.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:28
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nice try OP
As soon as someone complains about the Democrats moving to the left, I know this person is either really young or really new to politics.
Go look at where Republicans stood from the 50s to the 70s.
Or disingenuous.
Yeah. Several D candidates are Rs by the standards of previous generations.
+3 nothing new under the sun
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:16
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nice try OP
As soon as someone complains about the Democrats moving to the left, I know this person is either really young or really new to politics.
Go look at where Republicans stood from the 50s to the 70s.
Or disingenuous.
Yeah. Several D candidates are Rs by the standards of previous generations.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:13
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
This is me also. Though, I am an immigrant who is already a citizen. I feel the same way as you do about all of those topics. Have traditionally voted Democratic.
I dislike Trump as a person. But I think both Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt.
Trump has my vote in 2020.
PP, look at the issues yourself. Watch the debates. Read about the positions of the Democrat candidates and see who you agree with more.
Both parties are craptastic. So, vote based on the issues.
So you want to vote for Trump based on the issues? Are you insane?
Agree that you PP’s seem to have little in common with Trump. But little in common with popular Dem candidates either! Hence the notion of “feeling lost.”
This is what I hate in current politics: the idea that as a Democrat I have to be on board with the “platform.” Or you’re not a a viable candidate if you don’t agree with a “platform.”
Why don’t we have a Dem candidate who is:
Strong on crime
Against illegal immigration (but humane in handling deportations)
Pro environment
Pro choice
Pro science
Pro consumer protections
Reduce tax burden for middle and upper middle class
Robust foreign policy with reinvestment in diplomatic relations
Strengthen public education standards (as they have been incredibly weakened!)
I'm the PP who was called troll/racist/amoral above.
Yes, exactly. That person would have my vote. Democrat or Republican. Because, really, I don't want to vote for Trump.
But, I don't see that in any of them. Tough on crime? Nope. Against illegal immigration? Nope. Reducing the middle class tax burdern? Nope. Not going to happen with Medicare for All.
You are not being honest. Or you are getting your information from dishonest sources. At some point you need to take responsibility for your choices and your lack of real information.
Can you explain what is dishonest?
Just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean that person is being dishonest. I see nothing dishonest about either post.
NP. I'll take "tough on crime" for 800, Alex.
"Tough on crime" is coded language for the system that has resulted in 10% of our adult population in incarcerated in for-profit prison. It a system where the decision to incarcerate and the length of incarceration have been proven to have strong racial bias against black and latino defendants at both the state and federal level. We've had multiple cases where the juvenile justice system has involved direct cash payments for conviction and the prison lobby spends millions of dollars every year to secure their revenue stream. Meanwhile, violent crime continues to be down across the board.
On a somewhat related note, Prohibition has proven to be 1) completely ineffective in reducing drug usage and 2) disastrous for American foreign policy and stability in Latin America.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:02
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
This is me also. Though, I am an immigrant who is already a citizen. I feel the same way as you do about all of those topics. Have traditionally voted Democratic.
I dislike Trump as a person. But I think both Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt.
Trump has my vote in 2020.
PP, look at the issues yourself. Watch the debates. Read about the positions of the Democrat candidates and see who you agree with more.
Both parties are craptastic. So, vote based on the issues.
So you want to vote for Trump based on the issues? Are you insane?
Agree that you PP’s seem to have little in common with Trump. But little in common with popular Dem candidates either! Hence the notion of “feeling lost.”
This is what I hate in current politics: the idea that as a Democrat I have to be on board with the “platform.” Or you’re not a a viable candidate if you don’t agree with a “platform.”
Why don’t we have a Dem candidate who is:
Strong on crime
Against illegal immigration (but humane in handling deportations)
Pro environment
Pro choice
Pro science
Pro consumer protections
Reduce tax burden for middle and upper middle class
Robust foreign policy with reinvestment in diplomatic relations
Strengthen public education standards (as they have been incredibly weakened!)
I'm the PP who was called troll/racist/amoral above.
Yes, exactly. That person would have my vote. Democrat or Republican. Because, really, I don't want to vote for Trump.
But, I don't see that in any of them. Tough on crime? Nope. Against illegal immigration? Nope. Reducing the middle class tax burdern? Nope. Not going to happen with Medicare for All.
You are not being honest. Or you are getting your information from dishonest sources. At some point you need to take responsibility for your choices and your lack of real information.
Can you explain what is dishonest?
Just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean that person is being dishonest. I see nothing dishonest about either post.
In this case, it does. Most of the D candidates have almost all of these things in their platforms. Some also want criminal justice reform, but that is not in conflict with being "tough on crime."
Republicans are about raising taxes for the middle and lower incomes but dropping them for the very wealthy (including why amazon has a 0 tax bill on 11 billion in income). Literally NO DEMOCRAT is for that.
If you include health care costs in with tax burden then every candidate is on board with reducing those costs for middle income families. I mean, there are differences between their plans but they all have the net effect of what this poster wants. No D candidates want illegal immigration.
You can't really put up a list of things that are almost all the way covered by almost all the d candidates and say you don't see anyone doing them, and not get called out for dishonesty.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 16:01
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.
No, Democrats want open borders.
No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.
+1
Don't believe the propaganda.
I'm not the PP.
What propaganda?
I watched the Democratic debates (because I would like to vote for a Democrat candidate, since Trump is such a putz).
Several Democratic candidates want to decriminalize border crossings. What effect will that have on illegal immigration?
Several Democratic candidates support free health insurance to illegal immigrants. Will that increase or decrease the number of illegal immigrants in my town?
Can you point out a clear position where the Democrats have said they will try to curtail illegal immigration?
Decriminalization is not the same as open borders -- that's just a Faux News twist. Decriminalization means removing criminal penalties for illegal entry/overstay, not that anybody is allowed entry. It does mean no more concentration camps and baby jails, though.
Providing health care without checking immigration status is a measure to reduce healthcare costs. Healthcare via emergency room visits is the most expensive way to provide healthcare and at least so far we provide emergency care regardless of criminal status. So until we're comfortable checking everyone's immigration status before treating them in the emergency room and we're will to kick people out to die on the street, just maybe, we should consider cheaper ways to provide care. There isn't a lot of intellectually consistent middle ground between providing universal healthcare and letting people die on the street.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 15:46
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
This is me also. Though, I am an immigrant who is already a citizen. I feel the same way as you do about all of those topics. Have traditionally voted Democratic.
I dislike Trump as a person. But I think both Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt.
Trump has my vote in 2020.
PP, look at the issues yourself. Watch the debates. Read about the positions of the Democrat candidates and see who you agree with more.
Both parties are craptastic. So, vote based on the issues.
So you want to vote for Trump based on the issues? Are you insane?
Agree that you PP’s seem to have little in common with Trump. But little in common with popular Dem candidates either! Hence the notion of “feeling lost.”
This is what I hate in current politics: the idea that as a Democrat I have to be on board with the “platform.” Or you’re not a a viable candidate if you don’t agree with a “platform.”
Why don’t we have a Dem candidate who is:
Strong on crime
Against illegal immigration (but humane in handling deportations)
Pro environment
Pro choice
Pro science
Pro consumer protections
Reduce tax burden for middle and upper middle class
Robust foreign policy with reinvestment in diplomatic relations
Strengthen public education standards (as they have been incredibly weakened!)
I'm the PP who was called troll/racist/amoral above.
Yes, exactly. That person would have my vote. Democrat or Republican. Because, really, I don't want to vote for Trump.
But, I don't see that in any of them. Tough on crime? Nope. Against illegal immigration? Nope. Reducing the middle class tax burdern? Nope. Not going to happen with Medicare for All.
You are not being honest. Or you are getting your information from dishonest sources. At some point you need to take responsibility for your choices and your lack of real information.
Can you explain what is dishonest?
Just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean that person is being dishonest. I see nothing dishonest about either post.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 15:34
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
This is me also. Though, I am an immigrant who is already a citizen. I feel the same way as you do about all of those topics. Have traditionally voted Democratic.
I dislike Trump as a person. But I think both Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt.
Trump has my vote in 2020.
PP, look at the issues yourself. Watch the debates. Read about the positions of the Democrat candidates and see who you agree with more.
Both parties are craptastic. So, vote based on the issues.
So you want to vote for Trump based on the issues? Are you insane?
Agree that you PP’s seem to have little in common with Trump. But little in common with popular Dem candidates either! Hence the notion of “feeling lost.”
This is what I hate in current politics: the idea that as a Democrat I have to be on board with the “platform.” Or you’re not a a viable candidate if you don’t agree with a “platform.”
Why don’t we have a Dem candidate who is:
Strong on crime
Against illegal immigration (but humane in handling deportations)
Pro environment
Pro choice
Pro science
Pro consumer protections
Reduce tax burden for middle and upper middle class
Robust foreign policy with reinvestment in diplomatic relations
Strengthen public education standards (as they have been incredibly weakened!)
I'm the PP who was called troll/racist/amoral above.
Yes, exactly. That person would have my vote. Democrat or Republican. Because, really, I don't want to vote for Trump.
But, I don't see that in any of them. Tough on crime? Nope. Against illegal immigration? Nope. Reducing the middle class tax burdern? Nope. Not going to happen with Medicare for All.
You are not being honest. Or you are getting your information from dishonest sources. At some point you need to take responsibility for your choices and your lack of real information.
Anonymous
11/18/2019 15:11
Subject: I feel politically lost
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.
This is me also. Though, I am an immigrant who is already a citizen. I feel the same way as you do about all of those topics. Have traditionally voted Democratic.
I dislike Trump as a person. But I think both Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt.
Trump has my vote in 2020.
PP, look at the issues yourself. Watch the debates. Read about the positions of the Democrat candidates and see who you agree with more.
Both parties are craptastic. So, vote based on the issues.
So you want to vote for Trump based on the issues? Are you insane?
Agree that you PP’s seem to have little in common with Trump. But little in common with popular Dem candidates either! Hence the notion of “feeling lost.”
This is what I hate in current politics: the idea that as a Democrat I have to be on board with the “platform.” Or you’re not a a viable candidate if you don’t agree with a “platform.”
Why don’t we have a Dem candidate who is:
Strong on crime
Against illegal immigration (but humane in handling deportations)
Pro environment
Pro choice
Pro science
Pro consumer protections
Reduce tax burden for middle and upper middle class
Robust foreign policy with reinvestment in diplomatic relations
Strengthen public education standards (as they have been incredibly weakened!)
I'm the PP who was called troll/racist/amoral above.
Yes, exactly. That person would have my vote. Democrat or Republican. Because, really, I don't want to vote for Trump.
But, I don't see that in any of them. Tough on crime? Nope. Against illegal immigration? Nope. Reducing the middle class tax burdern? Nope. Not going to happen with Medicare for All.