Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a driver and a biker and I am happy to share the road with other drivers. I am also rational and know that commuters from Manassas, Burke, Centreville, and Woodbridge cannot bike to their jobs at the Army Headquarters if Seminary Road. Nor can residents from Kenwood Nursing Home, Goodwin House, Washington House, and Claridge House ride bikes to INOVA Alexandria Hospital.

If hundreds of bikers were waiting for these bike lanes, why are they so heavily unused. Or did you use the tired meme “if you build it, they will come” on the reliably gullible Del and Justin?

No, you're not. Because another way to say "sharing the road with other drivers" is "sitting in traffic." And nobody is happy to sit in traffic. Just read the complaints on this thread!

The presence of bike lanes enables people to go places safely by bike. The presence of bike lanes does not require everyone to always go everywhere by bike.

you are very presumptuous to interpret what sharing the road with other drivers means to me. It simply means that other thousands of other drivers and I are using roads together I do not mind sitting in traffic. It is part of urban life

So roads are to be used constantly by many while bike lanes are to be used for a privileged few as they wish to use them.

Again, if bike lanes are so desirable, why aren’t they used?

Well, that's wonderful, because if everybody has to drive everywhere, there will certainly be plenty of traffic for you to spend plenty of time sitting in. Hooray!

If one were less bike centric they could understand that successful alternate means to address road traffic, such as buses, subways, car pools, slug lines, telecommuting, and flexible work schedules have reduced traffic. Someday bikes may do the same. In the meantime, misguided efforts to encourage bike lanes has caused traffic congestion in King St and Seminary Rd

Please change my mind by The producing users for the bike lanes.

Anonymous wrote:What is up with the December 4 close down sign of Quaker Lane? The electrical sign is at King Street and Quaker as of today.

Does that mean south of King Street, Quaker is open? Sorry to ask on this thread but I don't understand what Alexandria City Transportation is saying ((although presume it's for repaving).

The person in charge if intelligible messages at DES has been assigned to the 100 person task force on bike lanes. Figure it out for yourself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a driver and a biker and I am happy to share the road with other drivers. I am also rational and know that commuters from Manassas, Burke, Centreville, and Woodbridge cannot bike to their jobs at the Army Headquarters if Seminary Road. Nor can residents from Kenwood Nursing Home, Goodwin House, Washington House, and Claridge House ride bikes to INOVA Alexandria Hospital.

If hundreds of bikers were waiting for these bike lanes, why are they so heavily unused. Or did you use the tired meme “if you build it, they will come” on the reliably gullible Del and Justin?

No, you're not. Because another way to say "sharing the road with other drivers" is "sitting in traffic." And nobody is happy to sit in traffic. Just read the complaints on this thread!

The presence of bike lanes enables people to go places safely by bike. The presence of bike lanes does not require everyone to always go everywhere by bike.

you are very presumptuous to interpret what sharing the road with other drivers means to me. It simply means that other thousands of other drivers and I are using roads together I do not mind sitting in traffic. It is part of urban life

So roads are to be used constantly by many while bike lanes are to be used for a privileged few as they wish to use them.

Again, if bike lanes are so desirable, why aren’t they used?

Well, that's wonderful, because if everybody has to drive everywhere, there will certainly be plenty of traffic for you to spend plenty of time sitting in. Hooray!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bike lanes are a total waste of money in a City where the use is almost non existent and there are so many other serious infrastructure improvements and poor schools.

Another mayor and council will not fix the poor decision making because they too will be of the same ilk as the current mayor and council

It's odd how few people ride bikes in an environment built to make bicycle travel dangerous and inconvenient. I wonder what the explanation could be for that.

The explanation for few bike riders is that the majority of people have a preference for cars or buses for transportation. Bike riding in this area is predominately a leisure activity and after 10 years in the City I have seen no uptick in regular bike riders at any time on any City streets even those with dedicated bike lanes. Building the most ultra safe bike lanes and building lots of them won't make a difference and won't make a significant increase in bike riders vs. drivers. The bike lane thing is just dumb and a waste of time, effort and money.

The majority of people have a preference for the most convenient way to get around. Currently, that's cars, because that's how we've built the transportation system.

Everywhere in the world, when you build convenient bike transportation, people bike. I don't think that people in Arlington will somehow be a weird global exception to this.

What is up with the December 4 close down sign of Quaker Lane? The electrical sign is at King Street and Quaker as of today.

Does that mean south of King Street, Quaker is open? Sorry to ask on this thread but I don't understand what Alexandria City Transportation is saying ((although presume it's for repaving).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bike lanes are a total waste of money in a City where the use is almost non existent and there are so many other serious infrastructure improvements and poor schools.

Another mayor and council will not fix the poor decision making because they too will be of the same ilk as the current mayor and council

It's odd how few people ride bikes in an environment built to make bicycle travel dangerous and inconvenient. I wonder what the explanation could be for that.

The explanation for few bike riders is that the majority of people have a preference for cars or buses for transportation. Bike riding in this area is predominately a leisure activity and after 10 years in the City I have seen no uptick in regular bike riders at any time on any City streets even those with dedicated bike lanes. Building the most ultra safe bike lanes and building lots of them won't make a difference and won't make a significant increase in bike riders vs. drivers. The bike lane thing is just dumb and a waste of time, effort and money.

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Anonymous wrote:Please provide statistics shoeing how unsafe Seminary Toad is for walkers, bikers, and drivers.

Amazon hq2 came to Arlington specifically for the military cloud business. Now that Microsoft is doing that business, you are as gullible as Justin Wilson and Katie Cristol to think that they came here for bike lanes.

I am well aware that the tax rate is the same for condos and rental units where the bike lobbyists live. The only difference is the average condo unit in Parkfairfax pays $3,000 a year and I pay $17,000 a year.

Should how much the government listens to you depend on what kind of housing you live in and whether you own or rent?

Some people would I am sure like to go back to this - http://www.virginiaplaces.org/government/voteproperty.html

How vile thou art.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a driver and a biker and I am happy to share the road with other drivers. I am also rational and know that commuters from Manassas, Burke, Centreville, and Woodbridge cannot bike to their jobs at the Army Headquarters if Seminary Road. Nor can residents from Kenwood Nursing Home, Goodwin House, Washington House, and Claridge House ride bikes to INOVA Alexandria Hospital.

If hundreds of bikers were waiting for these bike lanes, why are they so heavily unused. Or did you use the tired meme “if you build it, they will come” on the reliably gullible Del and Justin?

No, you're not. Because another way to say "sharing the road with other drivers" is "sitting in traffic." And nobody is happy to sit in traffic. Just read the complaints on this thread!

The presence of bike lanes enables people to go places safely by bike. The presence of bike lanes does not require everyone to always go everywhere by bike.

you are very presumptuous to interpret what sharing the road with other drivers means to me. It simply means that other thousands of other drivers and I are using roads together I do not mind sitting in traffic. It is part of urban life

So roads are to be used constantly by many while bike lanes are to be used for a privileged few as they wish to use them.

Again, if bike lanes are so desirable, why aren’t they used?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please provide statistics shoeing how unsafe Seminary Toad is for walkers, bikers, and drivers.

Amazon hq2 came to Arlington specifically for the military cloud business. Now that Microsoft is doing that business, you are as gullible as Justin Wilson and Katie Cristol to think that they came here for bike lanes.

I am well aware that the tax rate is the same for condos and rental units where the bike lobbyists live. The only difference is the average condo unit in Parkfairfax pays $3,000 a year and I pay $17,000 a year.

Should how much the government listens to you depend on what kind of housing you live in and whether you own or rent?

Yes. It worked for Jim Durham.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please provide statistics shoeing how unsafe Seminary Toad is for walkers, bikers, and drivers.

Amazon hq2 came to Arlington specifically for the military cloud business. Now that Microsoft is doing that business, you are as gullible as Justin Wilson and Katie Cristol to think that they came here for bike lanes.

I am well aware that the tax rate is the same for condos and rental units where the bike lobbyists live. The only difference is the average condo unit in Parkfairfax pays $3,000 a year and I pay $17,000 a year.

Should how much the government listens to you depend on what kind of housing you live in and whether you own or rent?

Some people would I am sure like to go back to this - http://www.virginiaplaces.org/government/voteproperty.html

Anonymous wrote:

I am a driver and a biker and I am happy to share the road with other drivers. I am also rational and know that commuters from Manassas, Burke, Centreville, and Woodbridge cannot bike to their jobs at the Army Headquarters if Seminary Road. Nor can residents from Kenwood Nursing Home, Goodwin House, Washington House, and Claridge House ride bikes to INOVA Alexandria Hospital.

If hundreds of bikers were waiting for these bike lanes, why are they so heavily unused. Or did you use the tired meme “if you build it, they will come” on the reliably gullible Del and Justin?

No, you're not. Because another way to say "sharing the road with other drivers" is "sitting in traffic." And nobody is happy to sit in traffic. Just read the complaints on this thread!

The presence of bike lanes enables people to go places safely by bike. The presence of bike lanes does not require everyone to always go everywhere by bike.

Anonymous wrote:Please provide statistics shoeing how unsafe Seminary Toad is for walkers, bikers, and drivers.

Amazon hq2 came to Arlington specifically for the military cloud business. Now that Microsoft is doing that business, you are as gullible as Justin Wilson and Katie Cristol to think that they came here for bike lanes.

I am well aware that the tax rate is the same for condos and rental units where the bike lobbyists live. The only difference is the average condo unit in Parkfairfax pays $3,000 a year and I pay $17,000 a year.

Should how much the government listens to you depend on what kind of housing you live in and whether you own or rent?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bike lanes are a total waste of money in a City where the use is almost non existent and there are so many other serious infrastructure improvements and poor schools.

Another mayor and council will not fix the poor decision making because they too will be of the same ilk as the current mayor and council

Next comes legislation on cars, forcing people into having to use the bike lanes. Whenever government makes bad decisions, they use more regulation to cover their mistakes.

Nobody is going to force you to ride a bike. More's the pity.

You are pushing your personal wish for bike lanes on hundreds of others who ride bikes but also need their cars. If you continue to discourage motor traffic in Alexandria, you will fly in the face of past administrations who tried their best to get businesses to Alexandria to improve the tax base. If you get rid of tax paying businesses, you will pay even higher property taxes for a growing high need population. But then you probably pay little on taxes either for your condo or in your rent.

The road diet on Seminary was to improve safety for walkers, for drivers, and adding a long planned link to the bike network was only one aspect of it.

As for businesses, Amazon moved to NoVa spefically citing the transportation options, including transit, walking and biking. VTech is moving in to Potomac Yard, and will likely be followed by businesses that want to be nearby. There are employers moving into Potomac Yard now.

As a side note, property taxes are the same rate on condos and rental properties as on SFHs.

The city is invested in property taxes going up, as revenue from property taxes has been pledged to fund the subsidies for Amazon and VT to come (not unique to Alexandria, Arlington has done the same). Basically it’s a TIF. I work in public finance and I read all those smooth PR phrased documents the city released on the topic. When future increases in property taxes are pledged to pay for public projects, the incentive is to make sure that future revenue is received. It’s different than a TIF based on increase in sales taxes.

Amazon and VT cited the very generous subsidies as an incentive (and was a huge reason New Yorkers objected to it coming there). It didn’t have to do with bike lanes on 0.9 miles of Seminary. Give it a rest.

Please provide statistics shoeing how unsafe Seminary Toad is for walkers, bikers, and drivers.

Amazon hq2 came to Arlington specifically for the military cloud business. Now that Microsoft is doing that business, you are as gullible as Justin Wilson and Katie Cristol to think that they came here for bike lanes.

I am well aware that the tax rate is the same for condos and rental units where the bike lobbyists live. The only difference is the average condo unit in Parkfairfax pays $3,000 a year and I pay $17,000 a year.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bike lanes are a total waste of money in a City where the use is almost non existent and there are so many other serious infrastructure improvements and poor schools.

Another mayor and council will not fix the poor decision making because they too will be of the same ilk as the current mayor and council

Next comes legislation on cars, forcing people into having to use the bike lanes. Whenever government makes bad decisions, they use more regulation to cover their mistakes.

Nobody is going to force you to ride a bike. More's the pity.

You are pushing your personal wish for bike lanes on hundreds of others who ride bikes but also need their cars. If you continue to discourage motor traffic in Alexandria, you will fly in the face of past administrations who tried their best to get businesses to Alexandria to improve the tax base. If you get rid of tax paying businesses, you will pay even higher property taxes for a growing high need population. But then you probably pay little on taxes either for your condo or in your rent.

The road diet on Seminary was to improve safety for walkers, for drivers, and adding a long planned link to the bike network was only one aspect of it.

As for businesses, Amazon moved to NoVa spefically citing the transportation options, including transit, walking and biking. VTech is moving in to Potomac Yard, and will likely be followed by businesses that want to be nearby. There are employers moving into Potomac Yard now.

As a side note, property taxes are the same rate on condos and rental properties as on SFHs.