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Remember all the crappy people waging on Archie's looks? Light skinned, dark skinned, they were hiding his face, yeh, shut up!

Protect their hearts, Harry. Statement was impeccable.

Honestly, I think Harry is just upset that he isn't adored by the public anymore. MM has ruined his image and this is his version of a tantrum.

Yeah totally. Has nothing to do with his mother's life being ruined and eventually ended by the paparazzi and having some anxiety about that happening to his wife. I'm sure his mother's death and the circumstances surrounding it had no impact on his young mind and personality.

Princess Diana was killed by her drunk driver. I read that had she stayed with her protection than she would be alive. MM is no where near the popularity of Princess Diana. The Sussexes are getting bad advice and I think this lawsuit is not going to help. Nobody likes being lectured about the environment and then watch you follow different rules. They have been having good press with the African tour and now that's all gone. I feel sorry for Thomas Markle. Sure, he made a mistake having the letter published but, probably to him it was the only way to communicate to Meghan.

Diana was hounded by the press FOR YEARS. And regardless of the status of her driver she was killed in a high speed chase trying to evade the paparazzi. If you think Harry thinks rationally about that you are nuts. Don't argue with me about that. My point isn't about Diana's guilt or lack thereof. It is about the perception of her son who was 12 when his mother died while being chased by photographers and after being maligned by the British press despite the fact that her own husband had cheated on HER.

If you think that had no formative effect on him and impacts GREATLY how her perceives his wife being treated by the press (and likely how he perceives William's supposed indiscretions with Rose Hanbury) then you are denying human nature.

I never indicated Harry's perceptions of his mother at all. However, Princess Diana also used the press to her advantage as well. Sure Harry sees that she was hounded and perhaps she was but, Meghan is no Diana.

That is your perception. Harry's perception is pretty critical here. And Harry's perception of what happened to his mother probably heavily influences how Meghan sees what happened to his mother. These are real people with real emotional histories and lives that impact the decisions they make. Not these cartoon villains you make them out to be.

Where did you get the idea that I said they were villains? I am merely stating that this lawsuit will do them no good regardless of what happened to his mother. I never denied that what happened did influence him, however, Meghan is no Diana. Full stop. Just because Prince Harry says it does not make it so.

I can't honestly meaningfully tell the mildly annoyed with the Sussex' posters and the clearly abhorrently racist posters apart. Just because it's all anonymous.

Just because you are against someone does not make them racist. You can not like someone based on their character.

+1. That pp had to invent allegations that someone called them villains because the truth that some people just don't like Harry and Meghan for legitimate reasons doesn't fit with their narrative.

If Harry is so worried about the media's impact on M's safety, then they can stop courting them. If they start supporting themselves and stop with the royal engagements (and M's brand new celebrity "friendships" and events) like some of his relatives have done, then they'll fade away and enjoy private lives. But it's clear that they don't want private lives. They want to be front and center and in the media and also completely control the messaging, which isn't reasonable. There's a solution to Harry and Meghan's "problem" but they just don't like it.

I'm the PP. The way numerous people have talked about her in this thread constitutes synonymous with villain. People have called her a tart, a social climber, selfish, narcissistic, only in it for the fame and equated her to Wallis Simpson of all people (known nazi!). The language used to talk about her is REVOLTING.

I can't always tell if the person I'm responding to is someone who has indulged in that or someone who is just turned off by this particular lawsuit. I fully acknowledge that some people might just not like them and that is totally fine and fair. But the level of noxious and hateful language used by posters in this thread points to something a whole lot more than passive dislike. PP is correct in that particular exchange none of the language rose to that level, so I acknowledged that I might have grouped them with the terrible people incorrectly. And I apologize if I did. But I won't apologize for calling out the abhorrent people who ARE posting.

The solution you are proposing would make everyone call them lazy and living off the British taxpayers (same as they say about Kate!). Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Nope, not damned at all if they stop living off the taxpayers' dime per above. I believe the whole monarchy should stop living off the taxpayers' dime, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess anything to take the attention off of Will and Kate's grifting laziness and the pedophile uncle.

Kate's expecting again, so get ready to complain more about her being lazy.

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Remember all the crappy people waging on Archie's looks? Light skinned, dark skinned, they were hiding his face, yeh, shut up!

Protect their hearts, Harry. Statement was impeccable.

Honestly, I think Harry is just upset that he isn't adored by the public anymore. MM has ruined his image and this is his version of a tantrum.

Yeah totally. Has nothing to do with his mother's life being ruined and eventually ended by the paparazzi and having some anxiety about that happening to his wife. I'm sure his mother's death and the circumstances surrounding it had no impact on his young mind and personality.

Princess Diana was killed by her drunk driver. I read that had she stayed with her protection than she would be alive. MM is no where near the popularity of Princess Diana. The Sussexes are getting bad advice and I think this lawsuit is not going to help. Nobody likes being lectured about the environment and then watch you follow different rules. They have been having good press with the African tour and now that's all gone. I feel sorry for Thomas Markle. Sure, he made a mistake having the letter published but, probably to him it was the only way to communicate to Meghan.

Diana was hounded by the press FOR YEARS. And regardless of the status of her driver she was killed in a high speed chase trying to evade the paparazzi. If you think Harry thinks rationally about that you are nuts. Don't argue with me about that. My point isn't about Diana's guilt or lack thereof. It is about the perception of her son who was 12 when his mother died while being chased by photographers and after being maligned by the British press despite the fact that her own husband had cheated on HER.

If you think that had no formative effect on him and impacts GREATLY how her perceives his wife being treated by the press (and likely how he perceives William's supposed indiscretions with Rose Hanbury) then you are denying human nature.

I never indicated Harry's perceptions of his mother at all. However, Princess Diana also used the press to her advantage as well. Sure Harry sees that she was hounded and perhaps she was but, Meghan is no Diana.

That is your perception. Harry's perception is pretty critical here. And Harry's perception of what happened to his mother probably heavily influences how Meghan sees what happened to his mother. These are real people with real emotional histories and lives that impact the decisions they make. Not these cartoon villains you make them out to be.

Where did you get the idea that I said they were villains? I am merely stating that this lawsuit will do them no good regardless of what happened to his mother. I never denied that what happened did influence him, however, Meghan is no Diana. Full stop. Just because Prince Harry says it does not make it so.

I can't honestly meaningfully tell the mildly annoyed with the Sussex' posters and the clearly abhorrently racist posters apart. Just because it's all anonymous.

Just because you are against someone does not make them racist. You can not like someone based on their character.

+1. That pp had to invent allegations that someone called them villains because the truth that some people just don't like Harry and Meghan for legitimate reasons doesn't fit with their narrative.

If Harry is so worried about the media's impact on M's safety, then they can stop courting them. If they start supporting themselves and stop with the royal engagements (and M's brand new celebrity "friendships" and events) like some of his relatives have done, then they'll fade away and enjoy private lives. But it's clear that they don't want private lives. They want to be front and center and in the media and also completely control the messaging, which isn't reasonable. There's a solution to Harry and Meghan's "problem" but they just don't like it.

I'm the PP. The way numerous people have talked about her in this thread constitutes synonymous with villain. People have called her a tart, a social climber, selfish, narcissistic, only in it for the fame and equated her to Wallis Simpson of all people (known nazi!). The language used to talk about her is REVOLTING.

I can't always tell if the person I'm responding to is someone who has indulged in that or someone who is just turned off by this particular lawsuit. I fully acknowledge that some people might just not like them and that is totally fine and fair. But the level of noxious and hateful language used by posters in this thread points to something a whole lot more than passive dislike. PP is correct in that particular exchange none of the language rose to that level, so I acknowledged that I might have grouped them with the terrible people incorrectly. And I apologize if I did. But I won't apologize for calling out the abhorrent people who ARE posting.

The solution you are proposing would make everyone call them lazy and living off the British taxpayers (same as they say about Kate!). Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking of the Guardian, they're perplexed and not supportive of this move. And they think the timing is strange.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/02/prince-harrys-pent-up-rage-questioned-by-royal-commentators

Well, the Guardian also published this, so not clear cut.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/commentisfree/2019/oct/02/prince-harry-letter-shows-you-dont-have-to-be-royal-to-be-bullied-by-the-red-tops

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Remember all the crappy people waging on Archie's looks? Light skinned, dark skinned, they were hiding his face, yeh, shut up!

Protect their hearts, Harry. Statement was impeccable.

Honestly, I think Harry is just upset that he isn't adored by the public anymore. MM has ruined his image and this is his version of a tantrum.

Yeah totally. Has nothing to do with his mother's life being ruined and eventually ended by the paparazzi and having some anxiety about that happening to his wife. I'm sure his mother's death and the circumstances surrounding it had no impact on his young mind and personality.

Princess Diana was killed by her drunk driver. I read that had she stayed with her protection than she would be alive. MM is no where near the popularity of Princess Diana. The Sussexes are getting bad advice and I think this lawsuit is not going to help. Nobody likes being lectured about the environment and then watch you follow different rules. They have been having good press with the African tour and now that's all gone. I feel sorry for Thomas Markle. Sure, he made a mistake having the letter published but, probably to him it was the only way to communicate to Meghan.

Diana was hounded by the press FOR YEARS. And regardless of the status of her driver she was killed in a high speed chase trying to evade the paparazzi. If you think Harry thinks rationally about that you are nuts. Don't argue with me about that. My point isn't about Diana's guilt or lack thereof. It is about the perception of her son who was 12 when his mother died while being chased by photographers and after being maligned by the British press despite the fact that her own husband had cheated on HER.

If you think that had no formative effect on him and impacts GREATLY how her perceives his wife being treated by the press (and likely how he perceives William's supposed indiscretions with Rose Hanbury) then you are denying human nature.

I never indicated Harry's perceptions of his mother at all. However, Princess Diana also used the press to her advantage as well. Sure Harry sees that she was hounded and perhaps she was but, Meghan is no Diana.

That is your perception. Harry's perception is pretty critical here. And Harry's perception of what happened to his mother probably heavily influences how Meghan sees what happened to his mother. These are real people with real emotional histories and lives that impact the decisions they make. Not these cartoon villains you make them out to be.

Where did you get the idea that I said they were villains? I am merely stating that this lawsuit will do them no good regardless of what happened to his mother. I never denied that what happened did influence him, however, Meghan is no Diana. Full stop. Just because Prince Harry says it does not make it so.

I can't honestly meaningfully tell the mildly annoyed with the Sussex' posters and the clearly abhorrently racist posters apart. Just because it's all anonymous.

Just because you are against someone does not make them racist. You can not like someone based on their character.

+1. That pp had to invent allegations that someone called them villains because the truth that some people just don't like Harry and Meghan for legitimate reasons doesn't fit with their narrative.

If Harry is so worried about the media's impact on M's safety, then they can stop courting them. If they start supporting themselves and stop with the royal engagements (and M's brand new celebrity "friendships" and events) like some of his relatives have done, then they'll fade away and enjoy private lives. But it's clear that they don't want private lives. They want to be front and center and in the media and also completely control the messaging, which isn't reasonable. There's a solution to Harry and Meghan's "problem" but they just don't like it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad they did this. The overt racism has been over the top and it needs to stop.

You are accussing millions of people of racism.

Proof, or shut up -- perhaps YOU are the racist one here.

No they are not. They are saying that the British press, some of whom they are suing, has been overtly racist. They’re not suing “millions of people.” Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad they did this. The overt racism has been over the top and it needs to stop.

You are accussing millions of people of racism.

Proof, or shut up -- perhaps YOU are the racist one here.

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of the Guardian, they're perplexed and not supportive of this move. And they think the timing is strange.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/02/prince-harrys-pent-up-rage-questioned-by-royal-commentators

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad they did this. The overt racism has been over the top and it needs to stop.

You are accussing millions of people of racism.

Proof, or shut up -- perhaps YOU are the racist one here.

No they are not. They are saying that the British press, some of whom they are suing, has been overtly racist. They’re not suing “millions of people.” Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad they did this. The overt racism has been over the top and it needs to stop.

You are accussing millions of people of racism.

Proof, or shut up -- perhaps YOU are the racist one here.

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Remember all the crappy people waging on Archie's looks? Light skinned, dark skinned, they were hiding his face, yeh, shut up!

Protect their hearts, Harry. Statement was impeccable.

Oh oh whole lotta balding going on there Harry.

He looks like friar tuck

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Remember all the crappy people waging on Archie's looks? Light skinned, dark skinned, they were hiding his face, yeh, shut up!

Protect their hearts, Harry. Statement was impeccable.

Honestly, I think Harry is just upset that he isn't adored by the public anymore. MM has ruined his image and this is his version of a tantrum.

Yeah totally. Has nothing to do with his mother's life being ruined and eventually ended by the paparazzi and having some anxiety about that happening to his wife. I'm sure his mother's death and the circumstances surrounding it had no impact on his young mind and personality.

Princess Diana was killed by her drunk driver. I read that had she stayed with her protection than she would be alive. MM is no where near the popularity of Princess Diana. The Sussexes are getting bad advice and I think this lawsuit is not going to help. Nobody likes being lectured about the environment and then watch you follow different rules. They have been having good press with the African tour and now that's all gone. I feel sorry for Thomas Markle. Sure, he made a mistake having the letter published but, probably to him it was the only way to communicate to Meghan.

Diana was hounded by the press FOR YEARS. And regardless of the status of her driver she was killed in a high speed chase trying to evade the paparazzi. If you think Harry thinks rationally about that you are nuts. Don't argue with me about that. My point isn't about Diana's guilt or lack thereof. It is about the perception of her son who was 12 when his mother died while being chased by photographers and after being maligned by the British press despite the fact that her own husband had cheated on HER.

If you think that had no formative effect on him and impacts GREATLY how her perceives his wife being treated by the press (and likely how he perceives William's supposed indiscretions with Rose Hanbury) then you are denying human nature.

I never indicated Harry's perceptions of his mother at all. However, Princess Diana also used the press to her advantage as well. Sure Harry sees that she was hounded and perhaps she was but, Meghan is no Diana.

That is your perception. Harry's perception is pretty critical here. And Harry's perception of what happened to his mother probably heavily influences how Meghan sees what happened to his mother. These are real people with real emotional histories and lives that impact the decisions they make. Not these cartoon villains you make them out to be.

Where did you get the idea that I said they were villains? I am merely stating that this lawsuit will do them no good regardless of what happened to his mother. I never denied that what happened did influence him, however, Meghan is no Diana. Full stop. Just because Prince Harry says it does not make it so.

I can't honestly meaningfully tell the mildly annoyed with the Sussex' posters and the clearly abhorrently racist posters apart. Just because it's all anonymous.

Just because you are against someone does not make them racist. You can not like someone based on their character.

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad they did this. The overt racism has been over the top and it needs to stop.