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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Many are resettling in Mexico, but Mexico has even less ability to absorb immigrants than we do.

If we were going to be smart.about this, we'd help Central American police forces and their economies so people will want to stay. It really is a mess there. As long as things are awful there and they can get a job here, they will keep coming, wall or no wall.

Our country has *trained* their police forces - and still they are unable to eradicate their gangs. And this is our fault? Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Many are resettling in Mexico, but Mexico has even less ability to absorb immigrants than we do.

If we were going to be smart.about this, we'd help Central American police forces and their economies so people will want to stay. It really is a mess there. As long as things are awful there and they can get a job here, they will keep coming, wall or no wall.

Anonymous wrote:Funny how Libs were so fine about Obama’s cages.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Many are resettling in Mexico, but Mexico has even less ability to absorb immigrants than we do.

If we were going to be smart.about this, we'd help Central American police forces and their economies so people will want to stay. It really is a mess there. As long as things are awful there and they can get a job here, they will keep coming, wall or no wall.

How EXACTLY would you like to be smart about “helping” corrupted Central American police forces? Don’t be so naive, my friend.

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Anonymous wrote:The administration can do what Europe started doing in Africa and set up asylum hearing centers in Mexico, so people can be screened without having to enter the US first. It would of course have to involve Mexico's cooperation but it might be more productive than threatening to make them pay for the wall.

Mexico has no incentive to curb the flood of drugs or sex trafficking. Cartels are making Mexican politicians very rich.

Question....

When seeking asylum, isn't it incumbent upon the seeker of asylum to request it in the first country in which he or she arrives?

Anonymous wrote:The administration can do what Europe started doing in Africa and set up asylum hearing centers in Mexico, so people can be screened without having to enter the US first. It would of course have to involve Mexico's cooperation but it might be more productive than threatening to make them pay for the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:You are uninformed if you think the wall is the only thing Republicans/this administration has tried since 2017 to address border security. Read a newspaper people!

You are uninformed if you think Trump originally talked about anything other than the wall or that he wanted funding for anything else other than the wall originally. I never mentioned Rs in general.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

not my family

Dad came in '47 with a trade, and he learned English in a year AND joined the military. He started three businesses, too, and built a nice lifestyle for the family.

Not all immigrants are the same.

+1

In addition just because we did things in a certain way in the past doesn't mean we have to continue those things if they don't make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is one to talk. He has been hiring illegals for years and more keep coming out of the woodwork everyday.

We will never get anywhere if every time one side is presented with facts the response is "but Trump!" And then they ignore literally mountains of data to focus on an anecdote.

Geez. Yes he hired illegal immigrants. Now let's move on to solutions for this crisis of illegal immigration that both liberal leaning, illegal immigration supporting, prominent newspapers have acknowledged.

The hypocrisy is strong with this one.

Again no actual solutions. Just one off quips (that aren't clever)
Okay. Prosecute to the fullest every employer for hiring illegal immigrants. Now what is your solution to the crisis of 76k+ per month at the border?

Practice what you preach, honey. It's hard to take you seriously when you give your Dear Leader a pass on what you accuse Democrats of.

Fantastic. No ideas.

The president sn't my dear anything.

What great ideas do you have?

There is a lot we can do or at least try:
-Implementation of a safe third country agreement with Mexico
-Put judges on the border/have them conduct the initial interview instead of BP. Most fail to get asylum so if they make the initial interview more stringent we will spend less money for these people moving through an asylum system they will ultimately fail
-no release into the interior of the country while your case is being heard, no granting of work visas unless you are granted asylum
- if they have been released previously, have law enforcement check on them at the address listed. Chances are they are staying with their illegal aunt/uncle/cousin/sibling/parent
- drones, facial recognition at the border

And finally... a physical barrier to keep them out in the first place

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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

I can’t even with the stupidity. Are you aware of how many billions of dollars the U.S. has given to these countries already, and many more billions are pledged for the future (by the Trump administration, btw) to “help them deal with their problems”?? How much good has this done so far?? It’s as if no money was spent at all. Nothing to show for it. And it’s somehow our fault that these countries can’t manage the money that we’ve pissed away on them? Newsflash: their people will continue coming to the border because they believe they will be admitted to this country. And the U.S. will always be attractive to them, no matter how much money we send to their countries, because liberals have made it their mission to let in as many as possible, for some inexplicable reason.

Anonymous wrote:Funny how one day we are watching the weeks long progress of a caravan moving at the speed of a kid on a bike. But now that Trump needs to justify an emergency, suddenly the border is at the Breaking Point.

How did that happen? A cynic would say Trump manufactured the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting to read the hypocrisy from the left on this very website:

> in politics, all immigrants are amazing!

> in real estate & school sub-forums, libs shamelessly move heaven and earth to avoid living near or having their kids sit next to immigrants

This is nicely stated and so true!

Spot on.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting to read the hypocrisy from the left on this very website:

> in politics, all immigrants are amazing!

> in real estate & school sub-forums, libs shamelessly move heaven and earth to avoid living near or having their kids sit next to immigrants

This is nicely stated and so true!

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is one to talk. He has been hiring illegals for years and more keep coming out of the woodwork everyday.

We will never get anywhere if every time one side is presented with facts the response is "but Trump!" And then they ignore literally mountains of data to focus on an anecdote.

Geez. Yes he hired illegal immigrants. Now let's move on to solutions for this crisis of illegal immigration that both liberal leaning, illegal immigration supporting, prominent newspapers have acknowledged.

The hypocrisy is strong with this one.