Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:48
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did putting this down benefit her? Was their affirmative action in registering to join the Bar? If not, what difference does this make?
You don't think her background was considered when she was applying for jobs?
I see nothing here indicating that she put down American Indian when applying for a job - just on her form when she registered for the Bar.
So, she claimed to be white on all other forms she filled out.
That means she lied on this one. Do you not see that as a problem?
I don't even know if race was on the other forms she filled out. Maybe she saw herself as both races, and sometimes put down one or the other. Until you can tell me where she put down American Indian and show that it benefitted her this is a "nothing burger".
“Nothingburger”? Okay Hillary, here are some other questionable things Warren did with regard to claiming to be Cherokee in order to further her career:
1. Warren self identified as “Native American” in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Professors, in every print edition from 1986-1995
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/04/29/elizabeth-warren-was-listed-minority-professor-law-directories-and/yBZTdrH3Qt8xRu6KZkLDlO/amp.html
2. After joining Penn, Warren had the school change her listed ethnicity from white to “Native American”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/30/elizabeth-warren-acknowledges-telling-harvard-penn-native-american-status/e7rnUDG6kAKvjZJQNr8wjL/story.html
3. Warren was identified by Harvard Law as a “woman of color” Harvard promoted Warren’s hiring as an expansion of campus diversity by hiring a woman of “minority background “ on their faculty
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/24/federal-documents-indicate-harvard-repeatedly-reported-elizabeth-warren-native-american/OZdiCFhjx5CCH3Es0sREHM/amp.html
4. Warren submitted several recipes to the Native American cookbook “Pow Wow Chow” and referred to herself in that book as “Elizabeth Warren- Cherokee”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146628/Elizabeth-Warrens-Pow-Wow-Chow-Cherokee-recipes-word-word-COPIES-famous-FRENCH-chefs-techniques.html
5. Warren used offensive, racially charged language to support her claim of Cherokee ancestry, stating that her family had “high cheekbones” like “all the Indians do”
https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-pocahontas/index.html
The Texas bar registration card that is in the news is just a symptom of a larger issue
She’s nailed. To the wall. Begone faker.
She’s an arrogant and ignorant person who just couldn’t stop.
My goodness what a fraud.
- an extremely wealthy fraud.
Some might even say "privileged."
Or "white" (but that's obvious).
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:46
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't care. Do you?
+1
+1 million. She could identify as being from the moons of Jupiter and it would not make a lick of difference on whether she was admitted to the Bar or not. You either pass the Bar exam or waive in based on your previous documented years of practice.
Her family thought they had Cherokee ancestors. My family has similar lore, but the story was much less developed. It's not uncommon and certainly isn't getting you ahead with the State Bar.
Have you ever written down 'native american' as a race?
No, but my husband, who loves to dog on Elizabeth Warren, loves to tell people about it.
I finally had to break it to him that what's gone on in my family is what went on in Warren's, except with mine the Cherokee ancestor was allegedly several generations back, so was much more diluted even if it was true.
So you are fully aware that you claiming Cherokee heritage would have been complete BS.
Maybe your husband is a hypocrite but you seem perfectly aware of what she did wrong since you'd never have done it yourself.
Claiming Cherokee heritage /= claiming tribal membership, right?
I guess what I am specifically referring to is saying you are racially native american when you are a white person who knows only white people through multiple generations of family.
And I am a Democrat, this is awful I don't see how she gets past it.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:33
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
In the era when the president and his associate lie about everything from his weight to his possible conspiracy to steal a presidential election, I am amazed voters/media hounding Warren for her mistaken identity issues years ago? What's up people. This is a rehash of the "but her emails"...
When will we start accepting imperfect, but great leaders? She is human, she did some mistake (did not defraud anyone). Can we move on?
She has some excellent idea to take the country in the right direction. Let us focus on her policy positions, arguments to justify those and ideas to implement those. Stop doing the same mistake we did in 2016 to demonize a great candidate for a small mistake, while giving a totally reprehensible candidate a free pass.
When will we start accepting imperfect, but great leaders? She is human, she did some mistake (did not defraud anyone). Can we move on?
She has some excellent idea to take the country in the right direction. Let us focus on her policy positions, arguments to justify those and ideas to implement those. Stop doing the same mistake we did in 2016 to demonize a great candidate for a small mistake, while giving a totally reprehensible candidate a free pass.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:32
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ruling class wants Kamela Harris. They’re taking out the trash to ensure it happens.
Kamala Harris has her own issues.
Harris, Booker, Biden, Warren, each and every one is a hundred times as qualified as the incumbent. This is all distraction from the ongoing disaster and embarassment.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:31
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you talk with American families who've been here since the 1700's, most of them have a story saying they are part Indian. I know we did, the family loved to trot the story out. Personally I was always skeptical. Took a DNA test about a year ago, and nope, zero American Indian heritage.
Elizabeth Warren definitely pushed the envelope farther than anyone in my family, but I can see how it happens. I bet it's a story she heard her whole life. To me it doesn't look like she intended any malice, if anything she was proud of being part American Indian.
But it appears she only EMPLOYED the falsehood once she started chasing more prestigious professorships. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing.
The best job she got had nothing to do with that though. She was qualified.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:31
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She hadn't had a DNA test and went with what her family had told her. Shame on her.
Now do Trump and Russia.
DNA doesn’t make you a Cherokee. A documented blood ancestor on the Dawes or Baker rolls only.
No it doesn't! Current affiliation with a tribe, voting in tribal elections, and maintaining tribal identity.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:30
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't care. Do you?
+1
+1 million. She could identify as being from the moons of Jupiter and it would not make a lick of difference on whether she was admitted to the Bar or not. You either pass the Bar exam or waive in based on your previous documented years of practice.
Her family thought they had Cherokee ancestors. My family has similar lore, but the story was much less developed. It's not uncommon and certainly isn't getting you ahead with the State Bar.
Have you ever written down 'native american' as a race?
No, but my husband, who loves to dog on Elizabeth Warren, loves to tell people about it.
I finally had to break it to him that what's gone on in my family is what went on in Warren's, except with mine the Cherokee ancestor was allegedly several generations back, so was much more diluted even if it was true.
So you are fully aware that you claiming Cherokee heritage would have been complete BS.
Maybe your husband is a hypocrite but you seem perfectly aware of what she did wrong since you'd never have done it yourself.
Claiming Cherokee heritage /= claiming tribal membership, right?
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:29
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did putting this down benefit her? Was their affirmative action in registering to join the Bar? If not, what difference does this make?
You don't think her background was considered when she was applying for jobs?
I see nothing here indicating that she put down American Indian when applying for a job - just on her form when she registered for the Bar.
So, she claimed to be white on all other forms she filled out.
That means she lied on this one. Do you not see that as a problem?
I don't even know if race was on the other forms she filled out. Maybe she saw herself as both races, and sometimes put down one or the other. Until you can tell me where she put down American Indian and show that it benefitted her this is a "nothing burger".
“Nothingburger”? Okay Hillary, here are some other questionable things Warren did with regard to claiming to be Cherokee in order to further her career:
1. Warren self identified as “Native American” in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Professors, in every print edition from 1986-1995
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/04/29/elizabeth-warren-was-listed-minority-professor-law-directories-and/yBZTdrH3Qt8xRu6KZkLDlO/amp.html
2. After joining Penn, Warren had the school change her listed ethnicity from white to “Native American”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/30/elizabeth-warren-acknowledges-telling-harvard-penn-native-american-status/e7rnUDG6kAKvjZJQNr8wjL/story.html
3. Warren was identified by Harvard Law as a “woman of color” Harvard promoted Warren’s hiring as an expansion of campus diversity by hiring a woman of “minority background “ on their faculty
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/24/federal-documents-indicate-harvard-repeatedly-reported-elizabeth-warren-native-american/OZdiCFhjx5CCH3Es0sREHM/amp.html
4. Warren submitted several recipes to the Native American cookbook “Pow Wow Chow” and referred to herself in that book as “Elizabeth Warren- Cherokee”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146628/Elizabeth-Warrens-Pow-Wow-Chow-Cherokee-recipes-word-word-COPIES-famous-FRENCH-chefs-techniques.html
5. Warren used offensive, racially charged language to support her claim of Cherokee ancestry, stating that her family had “high cheekbones” like “all the Indians do”
https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-pocahontas/index.html
The Texas bar registration card that is in the news is just a symptom of a larger issue
The cnn piece you quote says nothing about "like all the Indians do" Take ONE criticism, and actually give a good link.
The thing about recipes I cannot follow in a sloppy article about a family cookbook.
Again, the person who hired her at Harvard said her race had NOTHING to do with her hiring.m All this was litigated already years ago. Nothing new.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:25
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:The ruling class wants Kamela Harris. They’re taking out the trash to ensure it happens.
Kamala Harris has her own issues.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:22
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
The ruling class wants Kamela Harris. They’re taking out the trash to ensure it happens.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:14
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you talk with American families who've been here since the 1700's, most of them have a story saying they are part Indian. I know we did, the family loved to trot the story out. Personally I was always skeptical. Took a DNA test about a year ago, and nope, zero American Indian heritage.
Elizabeth Warren definitely pushed the envelope farther than anyone in my family, but I can see how it happens. I bet it's a story she heard her whole life. To me it doesn't look like she intended any malice, if anything she was proud of being part American Indian.
But it appears she only EMPLOYED the falsehood once she started chasing more prestigious professorships. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing.
Yeah. That was my thought. This doesn't explain why she considered herself white until 1985.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:12
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:If you talk with American families who've been here since the 1700's, most of them have a story saying they are part Indian. I know we did, the family loved to trot the story out. Personally I was always skeptical. Took a DNA test about a year ago, and nope, zero American Indian heritage.
Elizabeth Warren definitely pushed the envelope farther than anyone in my family, but I can see how it happens. I bet it's a story she heard her whole life. To me it doesn't look like she intended any malice, if anything she was proud of being part American Indian.
But it appears she only EMPLOYED the falsehood once she started chasing more prestigious professorships. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:11
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:She hadn't had a DNA test and went with what her family had told her. Shame on her.
Now do Trump and Russia.
DNA doesn’t make you a Cherokee. A documented blood ancestor on the Dawes or Baker rolls only.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:10
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
BREAKING:
Warren suggests other documents might come out on which she claimed to be Native American.
"This was consistent with what I did" at the time, she says.
Warren suggests other documents might come out on which she claimed to be Native American.
"This was consistent with what I did" at the time, she says.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 16:09
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
She hadn't had a DNA test and went with what her family had told her. Shame on her.
Now do Trump and Russia.
Now do Trump and Russia.