Anonymous
11/07/2018 18:41
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Meh, what Kate Hater and Work Chart Lady refuse to acknowledge is that the vast majority of people just want Kate to look nice, wear jewels and fabulous dresses, and produce adorable children. As long as she does that and appears more or less pleasant and normal, most people either do not care or will be happy with her.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 18:06
Subject: Re:Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/5282035/abolish-britain-monarchy-republic/
This rebranding effort has allowed royalists to justify the cost to the public purse on the grounds of “value to the economy.” But the story of the royal family’s value to the British economy was simply dreamed up by smart PR professionals to save an institution in crisis. In reality, according to our research, British taxpayers lose about $468 million a year just to have a head of state—a lot more than the official figure released by Buckingham Palace, which was $58 million last year. In fact, our monarch is one of the most expensive nonpolitical heads of state in Europe, at least 12 times more expensive than Ireland’s elected equivalent.
Even if it were true that the royals represent an investment by the British people, why should the royals spend taxpayers’ money with no checks and balances? That, after all, is why the monarchy costs so much—not because it’s expensive to run the office of head of state, but because the royals spend tens of millions of pounds on their palatial apartments, security and luxury vacations. Brits increasingly resent this—a recent poll we commissioned shows that 57% believe the royal family should pay not only for the wedding but also for police costs.
This is a little light on facts and full of opinion from the CEO of Republic a group wanting to abolish the royal family. Why is a poll from 2012 relevant to an article about Harry and Meghan's wedding?
Anonymous
11/07/2018 16:42
Subject: Re:Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
http://time.com/5282035/abolish-britain-monarchy-republic/
This rebranding effort has allowed royalists to justify the cost to the public purse on the grounds of “value to the economy.” But the story of the royal family’s value to the British economy was simply dreamed up by smart PR professionals to save an institution in crisis. In reality, according to our research, British taxpayers lose about $468 million a year just to have a head of state—a lot more than the official figure released by Buckingham Palace, which was $58 million last year. In fact, our monarch is one of the most expensive nonpolitical heads of state in Europe, at least 12 times more expensive than Ireland’s elected equivalent.
Even if it were true that the royals represent an investment by the British people, why should the royals spend taxpayers’ money with no checks and balances? That, after all, is why the monarchy costs so much—not because it’s expensive to run the office of head of state, but because the royals spend tens of millions of pounds on their palatial apartments, security and luxury vacations. Brits increasingly resent this—a recent poll we commissioned shows that 57% believe the royal family should pay not only for the wedding but also for police costs.
This rebranding effort has allowed royalists to justify the cost to the public purse on the grounds of “value to the economy.” But the story of the royal family’s value to the British economy was simply dreamed up by smart PR professionals to save an institution in crisis. In reality, according to our research, British taxpayers lose about $468 million a year just to have a head of state—a lot more than the official figure released by Buckingham Palace, which was $58 million last year. In fact, our monarch is one of the most expensive nonpolitical heads of state in Europe, at least 12 times more expensive than Ireland’s elected equivalent.
Even if it were true that the royals represent an investment by the British people, why should the royals spend taxpayers’ money with no checks and balances? That, after all, is why the monarchy costs so much—not because it’s expensive to run the office of head of state, but because the royals spend tens of millions of pounds on their palatial apartments, security and luxury vacations. Brits increasingly resent this—a recent poll we commissioned shows that 57% believe the royal family should pay not only for the wedding but also for police costs.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 16:37
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Which is why there are so few monarchies left. A lot of people agree. However, the Royal family brings in a lot of revenue via merchandise sales, tourism pounds, etc etc which has been pointed out numerous times. So if they actually do earn their keep, then what? What do you think should happen here if they don't act more grateful? And if you aren't British you are spending a lot of time spinning your wheels on something that has no affect on your life.
A lot of British people say they respect the queen but only the queen. So once she passes if Charles and William don't step it up I could see them abolishing it.
Maybe Will and Kate don't really care. They will still be wealthy and can lead more normal lives without the burden and expectations they currently have. So if they don't care, why should a bunch of Americans worry about it?
You may well be correct but the level of personal wealth, while still sizeable by most estimates (mostly from Diana's and Queen Mother's bequests), it pales in comparison to the costs of the lifestyle that the lead. I doubt they want to give that up.
Agreed - you only have to look at the Royal hanger-ons and deposed family descendants to see that. The Russians sold all of their tiaras and jewelry within two generations (so that's basically George ringing up Sothebys) and the Greeks - ha the 'Crown Prince' lives in New York with five kids and affording private school for all of them is them doing well. He had to marry a wealthy American heiress to make sure to keep up with lifestyle but anything super-lavish is gone. The sisters of the current Spanish King are basically broke, one was indicted in a court trial for stealing $5 million from the Spanish public. She had to sell their home to pay fees and is currently living in Switzerland since Spain has the weird thing about non-members of the immediate royal family staying in their palaces.
Basically William and Kate would walk away with about $20 million, Charles with $50 million etc. However none of the houses they currently live in except Balmoral and Sandringham are owned by the family itself so they've to buy property or go live in Kate's parents house. Then there's security - British public might be generous and give it to them for a term of a 2-4 years or they just might strip it entirely. Do you know how much private security for a family of five is - at least 7-figures a year.
Housing and security would just be the basic needs. William is a lazy ass fool for letting the public even think of tossing him out.
This. Thank you for outlining this.
Wills and Kate are not only lazy but super foolish to not realize how their apathy towards their duties will jeapordize the BRF and the monarchy itself.
The only reason William can afford to goof off with his silly helicopter gig is because of the goodwill his hardworking grandmother has with the public. Once she passes there will no longer be the umbrella of protection the Queen's hard work and reputation afforded them.
Out on the street will Prince Charmless and lazy-katy go.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:49
Subject: Re:Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry - embedded quote above:
And without the sovereign's general exemption from taxes, the death duties on Balmoral and Sandringham would be prohibitive. They will be sold to a Chinese billionaire or Middle Eastern Sultan in no time.
Than what will all the Prince William and Duchess Catherine do with all the time they have?
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:42
Subject: Re:Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Sorry - embedded quote above:
And without the sovereign's general exemption from taxes, the death duties on Balmoral and Sandringham would be prohibitive. They will be sold to a Chinese billionaire or Middle Eastern Sultan in no time.
And without the sovereign's general exemption from taxes, the death duties on Balmoral and Sandringham would be prohibitive. They will be sold to a Chinese billionaire or Middle Eastern Sultan in no time.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:40
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Which is why there are so few monarchies left. A lot of people agree. However, the Royal family brings in a lot of revenue via merchandise sales, tourism pounds, etc etc which has been pointed out numerous times. So if they actually do earn their keep, then what? What do you think should happen here if they don't act more grateful? And if you aren't British you are spending a lot of time spinning your wheels on something that has no affect on your life.
And without the sovereign's general exemption from taxes, the death duties on Balmoral and Sandringham would be prohibitive. They will be sold to a Chinese billionaire or Middle Eastern Sultan in no time.
A lot of British people say they respect the queen but only the queen. So once she passes if Charles and William don't step it up I could see them abolishing it.
Maybe Will and Kate don't really care. They will still be wealthy and can lead more normal lives without the burden and expectations they currently have. So if they don't care, why should a bunch of Americans worry about it?
You may well be correct but the level of personal wealth, while still sizeable by most estimates (mostly from Diana's and Queen Mother's bequests), it pales in comparison to the costs of the lifestyle that the lead. I doubt they want to give that up.
Agreed - you only have to look at the Royal hanger-ons and deposed family descendants to see that. The Russians sold all of their tiaras and jewelry within two generations (so that's basically George ringing up Sothebys) and the Greeks - ha the 'Crown Prince' lives in New York with five kids and affording private school for all of them is them doing well. He had to marry a wealthy American heiress to make sure to keep up with lifestyle but anything super-lavish is gone. The sisters of the current Spanish King are basically broke, one was indicted in a court trial for stealing $5 million from the Spanish public. She had to sell their home to pay fees and is currently living in Switzerland since Spain has the weird thing about non-members of the immediate royal family staying in their palaces.
Basically William and Kate would walk away with about $20 million, Charles with $50 million etc. However none of the houses they currently live in except Balmoral and Sandringham are owned by the family itself so they've to buy property or go live in Kate's parents house. Then there's security - British public might be generous and give it to them for a term of a 2-4 years or they just might strip it entirely. Do you know how much private security for a family of five is - at least 7-figures a year.
Housing and security would just be the basic needs. William is a lazy ass fool for letting the public even think of tossing him out.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:30
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Ha ha! Turn the question on the questioner. Maybe you can't answer the question? We don't CARE but, I was curious. From this response I know think I do know...
Yes, it's quite obvious the person is jealous they don't live the life of a royal. I clicked on this thread for fun but can't actually imagine in a million years spending time worrying or criticizing the actions of the royal family. You must be extremely bored.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:30
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Which is why there are so few monarchies left. A lot of people agree. However, the Royal family brings in a lot of revenue via merchandise sales, tourism pounds, etc etc which has been pointed out numerous times. So if they actually do earn their keep, then what? What do you think should happen here if they don't act more grateful? And if you aren't British you are spending a lot of time spinning your wheels on something that has no affect on your life.
A lot of British people say they respect the queen but only the queen. So once she passes if Charles and William don't step it up I could see them abolishing it.
Maybe Will and Kate don't really care. They will still be wealthy and can lead more normal lives without the burden and expectations they currently have. So if they don't care, why should a bunch of Americans worry about it?
You may well be correct but the level of personal wealth, while still sizeable by most estimates (mostly from Diana's and Queen Mother's bequests), it pales in comparison to the costs of the lifestyle that the lead. I doubt they want to give that up.
Agreed - you only have to look at the Royal hanger-ons and deposed family descendants to see that. The Russians sold all of their tiaras and jewelry within two generations (so that's basically George ringing up Sothebys) and the Greeks - ha the 'Crown Prince' lives in New York with five kids and affording private school for all of them is them doing well. He had to marry a wealthy American heiress to make sure to keep up with lifestyle but anything super-lavish is gone. The sisters of the current Spanish King are basically broke, one was indicted in a court trial for stealing $5 million from the Spanish public. She had to sell their home to pay fees and is currently living in Switzerland since Spain has the weird thing about non-members of the immediate royal family staying in their palaces.
Basically William and Kate would walk away with about $20 million, Charles with $50 million etc. However none of the houses they currently live in except Balmoral and Sandringham are owned by the family itself so they've to buy property or go live in Kate's parents house. Then there's security - British public might be generous and give it to them for a term of a 2-4 years or they just might strip it entirely. Do you know how much private security for a family of five is - at least 7-figures a year.
Housing and security would just be the basic needs. William is a lazy ass fool for letting the public even think of tossing him out.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:27
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Okay you've made that point repeatedly. Do you think obsessively posting about it here is going to punish them in some way? Maybe find a way to channel your energy into something more productive. They don't even know you exist!
What are you talking about? I've only posted three times in this thread on the last two pages and each was in response to you asking me why I think they are lazy.
You're not talking to the same person. More than one person posting in this thread.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:26
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Which is why there are so few monarchies left. A lot of people agree. However, the Royal family brings in a lot of revenue via merchandise sales, tourism pounds, etc etc which has been pointed out numerous times. So if they actually do earn their keep, then what? What do you think should happen here if they don't act more grateful? And if you aren't British you are spending a lot of time spinning your wheels on something that has no affect on your life.
A lot of British people say they respect the queen but only the queen. So once she passes if Charles and William don't step it up I could see them abolishing it.
Maybe Will and Kate don't really care. They will still be wealthy and can lead more normal lives without the burden and expectations they currently have. So if they don't care, why should a bunch of Americans worry about it?
What kind of person doesn't care about the state of the world, especially when they're in a unique position to help and do some good and have a lasting impact?
Only a good for nothing kind of person would admit to that.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:25
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Okay you've made that point repeatedly. Do you think obsessively posting about it here is going to punish them in some way? Maybe find a way to channel your energy into something more productive. They don't even know you exist!
What are you talking about? I've only posted three times in this thread on the last two pages and each was in response to you asking me why I think they are lazy.
FYI, the rapid kate defenders in here think there is only ONE person in the world who objects to their laziness.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:20
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Which is why there are so few monarchies left. A lot of people agree. However, the Royal family brings in a lot of revenue via merchandise sales, tourism pounds, etc etc which has been pointed out numerous times. So if they actually do earn their keep, then what? What do you think should happen here if they don't act more grateful? And if you aren't British you are spending a lot of time spinning your wheels on something that has no affect on your life.
A lot of British people say they respect the queen but only the queen. So once she passes if Charles and William don't step it up I could see them abolishing it.
Maybe Will and Kate don't really care. They will still be wealthy and can lead more normal lives without the burden and expectations they currently have. So if they don't care, why should a bunch of Americans worry about it?
You may well be correct but the level of personal wealth, while still sizeable by most estimates (mostly from Diana's and Queen Mother's bequests), it pales in comparison to the costs of the lifestyle that the lead. I doubt they want to give that up.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:20
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Ha ha! Turn the question on the questioner. Maybe you can't answer the question? We don't CARE but, I was curious. From this response I know think I do know...
Anonymous
11/07/2018 15:17
Subject: Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those are just patronage’s they lend their names to. They hardly show up even for meet and greets (and he doesn’t bother to read his briefings), let alone do any of the heavy lifting.
They haven’t started any charity initiatives if their own because they don’t care enough to.
Agree with the pp, why are you so invested? Why do you care SO much?
Why do you care SO much that I care? I think they are lazy and over privileged for nothing.
Which is why there are so few monarchies left. A lot of people agree. However, the Royal family brings in a lot of revenue via merchandise sales, tourism pounds, etc etc which has been pointed out numerous times. So if they actually do earn their keep, then what? What do you think should happen here if they don't act more grateful? And if you aren't British you are spending a lot of time spinning your wheels on something that has no affect on your life.
A lot of British people say they respect the queen but only the queen. So once she passes if Charles and William don't step it up I could see them abolishing it.
Maybe Will and Kate don't really care. They will still be wealthy and can lead more normal lives without the burden and expectations they currently have. So if they don't care, why should a bunch of Americans worry about it?