Anonymous
07/13/2018 14:25
Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no idea if any of these could win, but I like
Tammy Duckworth
Kamala Harris
Kristen Gillibrand
Eric Holder
Mitch Landrieu (NOLA Mayor)
Mazie Hirono
Maura Healey (Mass AG)
Michelle Obama (she wouldn't ever run, but)
Maybe Corey Booker
No Biden
No Bernie
No Hillary
No Kaine
No McAuliffe
None of these people has ever been heard of, outside of their little fifedom, and inside the beltway. This is the problem - you Washington Dems think all of this means something in "Real America." You need to spend some time in Florida or Michigan or Missouri or Maine.
Oh, and let's not forget that John Delaney is already announced and running. If that's not laughable, I don't know what is.
Plenty of them lack national name recognition right now, yes.
1. I don't live in Washington, though I used to. I have spent time in 3 of the 4 places you've named, including living in Missouri. I now live in Texas. Where, in fact, many people I know, know who these people are. However I admit that I've probably self selected a group of people more interested in politics and civics than the average American.
2. Did people nationally know who Barack Obama was, before he was actively running for President?
3. I didn't say anything about "Real America", and you seem to think you are the arbiter of what is "really" "American" or not.
4. As I said in my OP, I don't know if any of those people can win, but they are who I like.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 14:04
Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea if any of these could win, but I like
Tammy Duckworth
Kamala Harris
Kristen Gillibrand
Eric Holder
Mitch Landrieu (NOLA Mayor)
Mazie Hirono
Maura Healey (Mass AG)
Michelle Obama (she wouldn't ever run, but)
Maybe Corey Booker
No Biden
No Bernie
No Hillary
No Kaine
No McAuliffe
None of these people has ever been heard of, outside of their little fifedom, and inside the beltway. This is the problem - you Washington Dems think all of this means something in "Real America." You need to spend some time in Florida or Michigan or Missouri or Maine.
Oh, and let's not forget that John Delaney is already announced and running. If that's not laughable, I don't know what is.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 13:23
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Haven’t read all replies. Why doesn’t Adam Schiff run in 2020?
Anonymous
07/13/2018 12:31
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
this times infinity
Did you feel that way after the 2008 election?
remember Palin? Yeah, good try, but nope
Anonymous
07/13/2018 12:17
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
this times infinity
Did you feel that way after the 2008 election?
Anonymous
07/13/2018 12:10
Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Here's a theory: The Dem at the top of the ticket in '20 will be the proverbial sacrificial lamb. No way will Cory Booker et al -- anyone with a real future in the party - want to risk it. So, why not run Hillary? She's just egotistical/ dumb enough to go for it again and who knows.... maybe lightening will strike and she actually pulls it off. She's literally the only one with nothing to lose and everything to gain by running.
Republicans really want her to run again but there is no way she gets the nomination a second time. Let the Republicans and the Russians spend the next year and a half spinning their wheels attacking her, she won’t run and if she does, she will lose the primary. I voted for her the first time in the primary but won’t again - most wont.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 11:37
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are trump supporters so smug? Do they not realize majority does NOT like trump, this is seen by polls and popularity vote. How far up your own ass are you to think YOUR view represents majority of America when everything shows otherwise. I can’t wait till you all get off your high horse.
Totally agree, but I am gratified to hear Democrats acknowledging that Trump could win in 2020.
I think our biggest challenge is a repeat of 2016 -- thinking there's no way America would (re)elect that idiot.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.[/quote]
That includes folks in both parties who think freebies are a reason to vote for someone.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 11:35
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are trump supporters so smug? Do they not realize majority does NOT like trump, this is seen by polls and popularity vote. How far up your own ass are you to think YOUR view represents majority of America when everything shows otherwise. I can’t wait till you all get off your high horse.
Totally agree, but I am gratified to hear Democrats acknowledging that Trump could win in 2020.
I think our biggest challenge is a repeat of 2016 -- thinking there's no way America would (re)elect that idiot.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
Of course he can win. The bolded above is my in-laws, who I can barely speak to anymore. All they want to do it tell me how awful Hillary is, like I give a shit. She lost, I'm over it, so should you. I repeat, she is NOT running in 2020. That little fantasy of the right can die now.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 11:14
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
this times infinity
Anonymous
07/13/2018 11:12
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Why are trump supporters so smug? Do they not realize majority does NOT like trump, this is seen by polls and popularity vote. How far up your own ass are you to think YOUR view represents majority of America when everything shows otherwise. I can’t wait till you all get off your high horse.
Totally agree, but I am gratified to hear Democrats acknowledging that Trump could win in 2020.
I think our biggest challenge is a repeat of 2016 -- thinking there's no way America would (re)elect that idiot.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 11:06
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of them can beat Trump. Trump is historically unpopular. Unless he pulls some miracle turn-around, he is going to get his clock cleaned.
Anyone who doesn't admit that is blinded by partisanship or a fool, or both.
I'm very liberal, and I think this is completely wrong. I think Trump will win in 2020, no problem, and am prepared to knock on doors for months in 2018 and 2020 in opposition to him and all the Republican cowards who are supporting him. GOTV is the only way we can defeat him and his horrific policies.
Agree with other posters who say Democrats need a man to run in 2020. Just look at how Trump is destroying Merkel and May. He's a sadistic creep who is especially adept at targeting women politicians.
Yeah - we need a manly man to run to appeal to the deplorables. Someone who can burp & grunt & grab his crotch. Rosanne Barr with a penis.
More Russian trolls.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 10:58
Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
It feels like Dems can only win if they have excessive turnout of the Dem base, particularly women of color, and if there are no even semi-likable third party candidates that people can fall back onto.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 10:48
Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I know this will be hard; but please, listen to my words:
NOBODY. That's who will win against Trump in 2020. And its not just because the Dems are hopelessly split between conniving old fogeys on the one hand and "hip" new socialist morons on the other. And it's not because all the slanderous, pseudo-legal attacks against Trump are either failing or have already failed. And it's not even because Trump is somehow "invincible"; he's not, any more than any other person on this planet is invincible. It's because the overall response by Trump's many detractors is to completely lose their minds and scream at the sky. Then put on masks and hockey pads and scary boo boo Halloween costumes, and throw rocks and firebombs at people who dare to disagree with them. The ONLY people this reckless "antifa" insanity works with are people who are already against Trump, and that's not enough people to win, its just not. It's definitely NOT going to scare off Trump supporters; if anything, it makes them more determined and resolute. (Note: to all the dumb bells out there blathering about "armed revolution" : sit down before you hurt yourself. The people you so plainly hate have way more guns than you do, and you're not the X men or Jedi or whatever other fantasy world bs you wanna indulge in.) Most importantly is the effect this has on people in the middle, the "undecideds"... most of these people most of the time aren't really paying attention, and when they do, all they see is you making complete fools out of yourselves. They're NOT BUYING WHAT YOU'RE SELLING. Especially when you can't collectively come to your senses and repudiate the insanity of masked communists trying to smash people over the head with clubs
You can arrogantly dismiss this out of hand, to be sure. You can live in your cookie cutter world, where all the people you know agree with you. Your little world is not America. America wants Trump, which is why he is going to win in a landslide. You have been warned
Completely agree with this. The bottom line: too many of us like what he’s doing, warts and all.
Unfortunately for you, "too many of us" is not a majority. I hope the blue wave drowns him in November.
With the exception of Bush II's re-election, Republicans haven't won a plurality, much less a majority, in a loooong time. They don't need to though. They've been laying the groundwork for minority rule for a long time.
Anonymous
07/13/2018 10:43
Subject: Re:Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
I have no idea if any of these could win, but I like
Tammy Duckworth
Kamala Harris
Kristen Gillibrand
Eric Holder
Mitch Landrieu (NOLA Mayor)
Mazie Hirono
Maura Healey (Mass AG)
Michelle Obama (she wouldn't ever run, but)
Maybe Corey Booker
No Biden
No Bernie
No Hillary
No Kaine
No McAuliffe
Tammy Duckworth
Kamala Harris
Kristen Gillibrand
Eric Holder
Mitch Landrieu (NOLA Mayor)
Mazie Hirono
Maura Healey (Mass AG)
Michelle Obama (she wouldn't ever run, but)
Maybe Corey Booker
No Biden
No Bernie
No Hillary
No Kaine
No McAuliffe
Anonymous
07/13/2018 10:35
Subject: Which Dem can win general election in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Why are trump supporters so smug? Do they not realize majority does NOT like trump, this is seen by polls and popularity vote. How far up your own ass are you to think YOUR view represents majority of America when everything shows otherwise. I can’t wait till you all get off your high horse.
we're living in the land of minority rule at this point, and the story in the post that is also posted proves it isn't going to end anytime soon