Anonymous
Post 04/06/2018 20:26     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
You guys might already know this, because it was reported hours ago, but cnn says that the moms were not seat-belted in either (that the earlier reports were incorrect). No one had their seat belt on.

Well, they were stopped at that point; maybe to get out, so took them all off...
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2018 14:28     Subject: Re:Suspicious deaths.
I don't dispute at all that this family was deeply troubled but I think there is an overreaction about the videos (except for that heartbreaking hugging video). I have countless videos of my kids dancing around the house in their underwear and dancing at outdoor concerts but I'm not posting them on public You Tube channels.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2018 13:56     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two more family videos... (from 2012)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ch0sAxJ3ks&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGh6pmn7Js

These give me goosebumps- not in a good way. Those poor kids were treated like circus pets by their Moms who only wanted to advance their agenda. Tragic.


Exactly what I was thinking. The kids should have been at birthday parties with neighborhood kids, scouts, sports, school, etc. instead of attending these hippie events. And the video of the boy dancing in his underwear was disgusting. The mothers should be ashamed.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:58     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:Weren’t the Turpin kids pulled out of public school and then moved across state lines where they eventually became homeschooled, too? Ugh. I wish there was some way to track these families.


A lot of similarities between the two families.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:57     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two more family videos... (from 2012)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ch0sAxJ3ks&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGh6pmn7Js

These give me goosebumps- not in a good way. Those poor kids were treated like circus pets by their Moms who only wanted to advance their agenda. Tragic.


In the first video at 44 seconds you hear a women's voice say - are you going to give Nahko a hug now? The child answers yes and runs over. It seems so random - why ask him to go and hug the adult dancing with them.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:42     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Weren’t the Turpin kids pulled out of public school and then moved across state lines where they eventually became homeschooled, too? Ugh. I wish there was some way to track these families.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:38     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:Why is it important to mention they're lesbians?

Crazy doesn't discriminate.

Except in this case the mothers were very clearly using their children to advance their political agenda...
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:36     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:Two more family videos... (from 2012)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ch0sAxJ3ks&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGh6pmn7Js

These give me goosebumps- not in a good way. Those poor kids were treated like circus pets by their Moms who only wanted to advance their agenda. Tragic.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:30     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
This is the song they are singing in the first video right above and the singer they are wishing Happy Thanksgiving to and dancing with in the second video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml9AK1cSC5M
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 23:24     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Two more family videos... (from 2012)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ch0sAxJ3ks&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLGh6pmn7Js
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 22:17     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it important to mention they're lesbians?

Crazy doesn't discriminate.


No one said anything about lesbians.


+1
People have referred to the parents as the "mothers," but that's entirely accurate.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 22:12     Subject: Re:Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
I also wonder though, if his behavior indicates a disability or RAD. Kids who are starved for attention don't hug random strangers. What I can see is their moms saying "he's such a loving child, always hugging people. Let's hang one of those'free hugs' signs on his neck. He'll think it's neat, and it will make us look like such cool parents." (Free hugs signs are a trend amongst hippies).


That actually makes sense. One of the hallmarks of RAD is inappropriate affection toward strangers while inability to form lasting attachment to family/parents. Also, if that was 2013, he should have been about 10, right? He looks half that age. That, plus the bizarre outfit, makes me think he was not a typical kid. Usually, though, parents dealing with RAD would be working with their child to model appropriate displays of affection, not encouraging him to walk around--and crash the stage of a concert--hugging strangers, especially for such a long, tight, one-sided embrace. The performer was being nice in allowing it, but he was clearly no longer hugging back. Imagine how often that happened with people who didn't want a hug at all.


I had a different take on that video. I imagine the mothers encouraged him to go up onstage and hug the singer - they seemed to be all about the optics. The singer looked quite touched at first - and then I think he realized the depths of the need this child had, as he clung to him and sobbed. You can see the singer get teary himself and become a little hoarse as he's obviously moved by this child clinging to him for dear life. And then the singer rubs the boy's head and holds onto him even more. I think he was a little perplexed, but also wanted to somehow give strength to the boy, if that makes sense. I'd love to get the singer's take on this now, to see what was going through his mind.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 22:06     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Odd video of one of their kids when much younger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQx_ypnpIO0&feature=youtu.be&t=8m32s

This story has so many facets. LGBTQ, white women adopting black children, political activism, homeschooling, child abuse, possible outcomes of calling CPS/CPS actions, murder/suicide.


What on earth was this video? That poor little boy.


I know! Why is no one besides you me and the poster who linked the video commenting? Everyone is stuck on the damn t-shirts. The video is really, really disturbing and inappropriate.

Another facet is mental illness which is common in that community. Adoptions should require a mental health evaluation instead of assuming people who fit a certain stereotype should automatically be assumed a good, qualified parent, etc.

So many of the moms behaviors were extremes and should have been red flags to the authorities.


That singer is amazing and extraordinarily beautiful. I understand there is a complex racial dynamic to this story though I'm not sure that this video is relevant to that. The bigger picture to me seems to be whether this was an adult event or a family event. Should these kids have even been there, dressed like that? And the sadness of the boy goes without saying. so sad.


+1
My heart went out not only to the little boy, but also to the singer. He clearly felt how troubled the boy was as he was holding him - brought him to tears too. And what on earth was the boy wearing? It's just all so strange.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 11:03     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Odd video of one of their kids when much younger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQx_ypnpIO0&feature=youtu.be&t=8m32s

This story has so many facets. LGBTQ, white women adopting black children, political activism, homeschooling, child abuse, possible outcomes of calling CPS/CPS actions, murder/suicide.


What on earth was this video? That poor little boy.


I know! Why is no one besides you me and the poster who linked the video commenting? Everyone is stuck on the damn t-shirts. The video is really, really disturbing and inappropriate.

Another facet is mental illness which is common in that community. Adoptions should require a mental health evaluation instead of assuming people who fit a certain stereotype should automatically be assumed a good, qualified parent, etc.

So many of the moms behaviors were extremes and should have been red flags to the authorities.


Pp, I also find the video disturbing. There is so much pain in the boy's body language. The way he clings to the singer...


I also wonder though, if his behavior indicates a disability or RAD. Kids who are starved for attention don't hug random strangers. What I can see is their moms saying "he's such a loving child, always hugging people. Let's hang one of those'free hugs' signs on his neck. He'll think it's neat, and it will make us look like such cool parents." (Free hugs signs are a trend amongst hippies).



Sounds to me like a relative of one of the moms or friends of the family trying to justify the horrible abuse that these children endured.

Pp here. How so? I'm pointing out that Devonte's behavior probably stems from his early childhood abuse, and possible attachment issues. Research Reactive Attachment Disorder. I think that instead of recognizing that hugging strangers while crying is inappropriate, the moms used his behaviors to turn him into a prop in their hippy lifestyle.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2018 09:52     Subject: Suspicious deaths.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it important to mention they're lesbians?

Crazy doesn't discriminate.


It would be weird to omit it.


Numerous studies show that boys need a male figure to raise them. The inappropriate behavior from the boys displayed in the media can be explained by the lack of proper parenting.


Shut the hell up with this bs. Please cite your “numerous” studies or leave.


It’s true. You can be a lesbian couple raising boys, but you should be finding some decent , trusted male figures for the boys.
Ditto for adopting kids of different races - it’s also your responsibility as the adoptive parent to help the child find some community aligned with the child’s race.


This is why you rarely see a single woman adopt a male child.