Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 23:00     Subject: What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Her business was handed to her, and yet it is a disaster.

Her political position was handed to her, and yet it is a disaster.

But hey, her cosmetic surgery makes it do her dad would want to date her, so that is good, right?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 22:53     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

If nepotism were an Olympic Sport she would medal.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 22:47     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

I went to school with her. She is....not smart. But she does cover that up better than her brothers that is for sure.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 22:36     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is her mouth. Her crowns are too big and it makes her mouth look funny and like she is struggling to articulate words. I feel a bit stressed watching her try to mange it.


That stress you feel is the discomfort of watching someone with no conscience.

Ding ding ding ding!
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 19:53     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Anonymous wrote:I think it is her mouth. Her crowns are too big and it makes her mouth look funny and like she is struggling to articulate words. I feel a bit stressed watching her try to mange it.


That stress you feel is the discomfort of watching someone with no conscience.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 19:45     Subject: What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Anonymous wrote:Someone on this forum posted a great explanation on another Ivanka thread a few weeks ago (sorry, I can’t find it). It was basically that she’s the Republican’s version of a feminist: pretty, thin, quiet, dresses in skirts and dresses, speaks demurely, never takes the lead, etc. She can be a businesswoman as long as she behaves a certain way, always knowing not to upstage the men. I think there’s something to this argument.


That rings true. It is also consistent with a lot of the pro-Ivanka comments in this thread - those traits are what they point to as her defense.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 19:43     Subject: What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Someone on this forum posted a great explanation on another Ivanka thread a few weeks ago (sorry, I can’t find it). It was basically that she’s the Republican’s version of a feminist: pretty, thin, quiet, dresses in skirts and dresses, speaks demurely, never takes the lead, etc. She can be a businesswoman as long as she behaves a certain way, always knowing not to upstage the men. I think there’s something to this argument.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 19:18     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

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Anonymous wrote:She’s happy, well-educated, gorgeous, rich, a great mom, well-put together. I bet her closet is even beautiful.

Many people hate people whose feathers don’t get ruffled no matter how hard others try to ruffle them.

Melt down in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....


I am the OP. I don't disagree with these statements, actually. What I am discussing is about something else entirely.

I am getting frustrated that most people trying to tear down this post and its sentiments are truly terrible at reading comprehension and analysis!


Thank you for responding to my post, OP. Not sure why you picked mine when there are so many others affirming your confirmation bias. Here is the thing. I have teenagers and I’m not going to willingly drag myslef into their world of over-analyzing stupidity when there are so many greater concerns in the world. She gives off good energy to me in the limited time I have thought about it and I legitimately don’t get the “darkness” from her.

Having said that, the entire blood diamond issue which has been around for centuries pisses me off.


OP again. Happy to respond to your post, and will respond to this one as well: it makes NO sense and I do not understand what you are trying to say, at all.


Okay, shorter: Don’t you have anything better to do?


This is so easy!

Couldn't the same be said for you?


I didn’t start the thread.


And yet here you are, responding many times, never once addressing the original question at hand.

I started the thread because I wanted to dialogue about a particular phenomenon that I am experiencing. But by all means, you are welcome to pop in and out and in again to try to derail the original topic and spew shallow analyses and poorly written criticisms.


You wanted *to dialogue*?! Omg! Ivanka is that you? Are you trying to *architect* a new public image?


You know what - if using the word "dialogue" outs me as a dirty liberal and east coast elite, sign me up.

I *am* an architect, actually.


I don’t think using *dialogue* in the context you used exposes you as a liberal East Coast elite because this liberal East Coast elite is calling you out on it. I would never used dialogue as a verb, only a noun.

As an architect, do you wear black turtlenecks and cool glasses?



But...it is also a verb.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 19:10     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Anonymous wrote:OP, your jealousy and vanity are tormenting you.



Why? I think women dislike Ivanka because she’s vapid.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 19:09     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

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Anonymous wrote:She’s happy, well-educated, gorgeous, rich, a great mom, well-put together. I bet her closet is even beautiful.

Many people hate people whose feathers don’t get ruffled no matter how hard others try to ruffle them.

Melt down in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....


I am the OP. I don't disagree with these statements, actually. What I am discussing is about something else entirely.

I am getting frustrated that most people trying to tear down this post and its sentiments are truly terrible at reading comprehension and analysis!


Thank you for responding to my post, OP. Not sure why you picked mine when there are so many others affirming your confirmation bias. Here is the thing. I have teenagers and I’m not going to willingly drag myslef into their world of over-analyzing stupidity when there are so many greater concerns in the world. She gives off good energy to me in the limited time I have thought about it and I legitimately don’t get the “darkness” from her.

Having said that, the entire blood diamond issue which has been around for centuries pisses me off.


OP again. Happy to respond to your post, and will respond to this one as well: it makes NO sense and I do not understand what you are trying to say, at all.


Okay, shorter: Don’t you have anything better to do?


This is so easy!

Couldn't the same be said for you?


I didn’t start the thread.


And yet here you are, responding many times, never once addressing the original question at hand.

I started the thread because I wanted to dialogue about a particular phenomenon that I am experiencing. But by all means, you are welcome to pop in and out and in again to try to derail the original topic and spew shallow analyses and poorly written criticisms.


You wanted *to dialogue*?! Omg! Ivanka is that you? Are you trying to *architect* a new public image?


You know what - if using the word "dialogue" outs me as a dirty liberal and east coast elite, sign me up.

I *am* an architect, actually.


I don’t think using *dialogue* in the context you used exposes you as a liberal East Coast elite because this liberal East Coast elite is calling you out on it. I would never used dialogue as a verb, only a noun.

As an architect, do you wear black turtlenecks and cool glasses?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 18:59     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

OP, your jealousy and vanity are tormenting you.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 18:26     Subject: What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

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You liberals did the same thing to Linda Tripp, matter of fact.


It's getting how the default defense is always to throw around the words "you liberals blah blah" like the word liberal is an insult. FYI, those of us who are liberal aren't offended of being called one.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 18:15     Subject: Re:What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

Anonymous wrote:She’s happy, well-educated, gorgeous, rich, a great mom, well-put together. I bet her closet is even beautiful.

Many people hate people whose feathers don’t get ruffled no matter how hard others try to ruffle them.

Melt down in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....


The whole problem is that this is ALL the Trump people can defend her with. They throw well-educated in there just to seem like they are basing it on something of substance. But "happy, well-educated, gorgeous, rich, a great mom, well-put together" should not be the only qualifications for a top government job.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 18:11     Subject: What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

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Is Chelsea Clinton in the White House serving as a Senior Advisor to the President and representing the U.S. at multiple international events? Without any kind of security clearance? Please. The valid criticism of Ivanka Trump focuses on substance, not looks. The GOP would have impeached President Clinton before her inauguration if she had attempted 5% of the stuff Trump has gotten away with.


And she gets away with it because Trump supporters are all oh, Ivanka is so elegant and poised. Such a good representative for the United States with her picture perfect family. That's it, that's the only reason Trump supporters think she's intelligent and a successful businesswoman. Because she looks the part.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 18:02     Subject: What exactly is it about Ivanka Trump that is so off-putting?

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I disagree. I find her to be completely vapid in interviews and her book. She’s all style and no substance.


This it for me. I feel like she's given such a pass just for being beautiful.

And I find it creepy how she as more a first lady role than Melania does.