Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Senate Parlimentarian struck down Corker's "trigger" - not sure what he is going to do now.

So according to Corker, they are going to add a $350B tax hike somewhere into this bill.

Where?

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Anonymous wrote:Just out from Wash Post:

Senate GOP tax bill would add $1 trillion to the deficit, Congress’ analysts conclude

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/2017/11/30/c2118302-d5e7-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?pushid=5a20749bb0a05c1d00000075&tidr=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.d8ede43abc02

When the stimulus bill was passed, the dems took great pains to keep the debt blow to below $1 Trillion. That bill kept jobs and added new jobs via infrastructure spending. Despite that, the DOP as recently as in this thread is complaining about it, yet support the current bill on the table that doesn't provide any new jobs or any meaningful tax relief to the middle class, where such relief is put right back into the economy.

The tax plan will cost $1.4 trillion but will only add $480 billion in economic benefit. Thus a $1 trillion dollar loss on this "investment" - not a good deal at all.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-bill-hits-obstacle-over-deficit-1512083103

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Anonymous wrote:Just out from Wash Post:

Senate GOP tax bill would add $1 trillion to the deficit, Congress’ analysts conclude

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/2017/11/30/c2118302-d5e7-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?pushid=5a20749bb0a05c1d00000075&tidr=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.d8ede43abc02

When the stimulus bill was passed, the dems took great pains to keep the debt blow to below $1 Trillion. That bill kept jobs and added new jobs via infrastructure spending. Despite that, the DOP as recently as in this thread is complaining about it, yet support the current bill on the table that doesn't provide any new jobs or any meaningful tax relief to the middle class, where such relief is put right back into the economy.

People also forget that of the $800 billion stimulus , nearly $300 billion was tax cuts and $150 billion was aid to state and local governments so that they did not have to raise taxes too much (or cut services). Only 45% was government stimulus spending.

Anonymous wrote:They're having another vote to send it back to committee? Why? I don't understand what is going on with this bill. Is it usual to have several votes, in this instance unsuccessful, to send a bill back to committee?

That's all they've been doing since yesterday. The Dems keep putting it up for a vote to send it back to committee, and it gets voted down. Then they ask for the vote again, and it gets voted down. Ask a third time, voted down. Asked a fourth time, voted down. They could do this forever just to block it.

Anonymous wrote:Just out from Wash Post:

Senate GOP tax bill would add $1 trillion to the deficit, Congress’ analysts conclude

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/2017/11/30/c2118302-d5e7-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?pushid=5a20749bb0a05c1d00000075&tidr=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.d8ede43abc02

When the stimulus bill was passed, the dems took great pains to keep the debt blow to below $1 Trillion. That bill kept jobs and added new jobs via infrastructure spending. Despite that, the DOP as recently as in this thread is complaining about it, yet support the current bill on the table that doesn't provide any new jobs or any meaningful tax relief to the middle class, where such relief is put right back into the economy.

Anonymous wrote:They're having another vote to send it back to committee? Why? I don't understand what is going on with this bill. Is it usual to have several votes, in this instance unsuccessful, to send a bill back to committee?

This is completely normal. The House and Senate bills are different. Once they are both passed they have a conference committee and make a whole new bill that is voted on by both. The only way to avoid this is for the Senate to pass the House bill (or vice versa). That normally won’t happen because the Senate wants it’s input and priorities included.

When the ACA was passed, the Senate passed the House bill in the lame duck session in order to avoid conference because they had lost too many seats during the 2010 election. That isn’t an issue here because the next election is a year away so the Senate will not give up their chance to include their ideas in the final bill.

I hope that helps explain the process.

They're having another vote to send it back to committee? Why? I don't understand what is going on with this bill. Is it usual to have several votes, in this instance unsuccessful, to send a bill back to committee?

You people are acting as if this is a done deal if the Senate approves it. They still have to reconcile with the House bill, don't they?

Looks like the Senate Parlimentarian struck down Corker's "trigger" - not sure what he is going to do now.

Mccain's wife and kids are going to net $10s of millions if this passes via no estate tax. That's why this snake is a YES.

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Anonymous wrote:His sons aren't very good looking. But I guess one only has to look at the dad.

Ivanka has had work done--she too, looked like dad in the beginning.

At least she looks more like her mother. His sons look like hillbillies with a suit on.

Anonymous wrote:His sons aren't very good looking. But I guess one only has to look at the dad.

Ivanka has had work done--she too, looked like dad in the beginning.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for my kids. This country will never be the same and the American Dream will just be a dream. Unless you are a billionaire there is nothing to be happy about here. What a shame.

I feel great for my kids. We are getting some much needed tax cuts, and hopefully this will force a reduction in spending, driving the country back towards fiscal conservative policies. Not a billionaire, but we are really glad that the country is being lead in this direction. What a joy.

Tell your kids to check out the 1994 film “Reality Bites.” That’s their future.

Anonymous wrote:It was always only about killing the estate tax.
Suckers.

This passes, winning potus netted the Trump clan $1 billion PLUS.

Bingo. Don't think liberal puppet masters don't want this too. That's why it'll pass.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats just offered an amendment to ensure corporations use their tax savings to raise employee wages at the same rate they increase executive pay, stock buybacks and dividends to shareholders.

Every single Republican voting, voted NO.

Of course they did. Republicans don’t care about workers. Never have, never will. They care about their own fat bank accounts and the average worker be damned.