I think one of the issues is it is such a fine line between cheating and DCPS policy.

So I can rent an apartment/buy a condo and either:

- Live in it for 9 months and then stay in the feeder pattern for up to 15 (if you get an ECE spot) years per kid (Ok)

- Never live in it and rent it out for a year and then stay in the feeder pattern for up to 15 years (Not ok)

We have followed the rules but live in a district where several have not. I wish people didn't cheat and DCPS did care but when you are talking about 9 months over 15 years, I see how you could talk yourself into it.

I wish DCPS understood how they holds other schools back. Many times these people come from neighborhoods where the schools are fine and trending up. They would be even better if everyone stayed home.

Anybody who challenges justice crazed posters on these threads is obviously a....cheater.

I posted about the creeps but don't rent a studio or own a scnd house for a school address. My terrific neighbors of 15 years do the latter.

If a DCPS investigator ever comes knocking, I'll do or say whatever I can to help them stay next-door.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to be annoyed by the idea of people who rent a property they don't live in to access a school, but the over the top bitties on here who just seethe about it need to focus on themselves. Your desire for justice on this issue is way out of proportion. You just seem gross.

+100. Controlling, arrogant, sanctimonious creeps.

Wow, you really aren't doing your cause any favors. Look, you're cheating for your own benefit. Your choice; live with the consequences. You seem to have some kind of cognitive dissonance going on that makes you blame others for your own cheating, instead of just accepting who you are!

What does the number of OOB have to do with anything?

The people who are renting an apartment for the address aren't showing up as OOB.

That's the whole point.

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Anonymous wrote:"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.

+1. And some of these tiny studios are 'passed down' among friends and families.

Both Deal and Wilson have a large OOB population so I doubt this.

Deal no longer has a giant OOB population - they're done to a little over a quarter.

Exactly! Wilson still does and I sure hope they crack down on it like Deal did.

This isn't from any sort of 'crack down' -- it's the higher number of IB kids coming from the feeders filling slots.

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Anonymous wrote:"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.

+1. And some of these tiny studios are 'passed down' among friends and families.

Both Deal and Wilson have a large OOB population so I doubt this.

Deal no longer has a giant OOB population - they're done to a little over a quarter.

The 'many' families doing this amounts to around 2 per school. Seriously. Both Mann & Key traditionally sent more kids to Latin - but it's getting harder to get into. there's now a set of kids who split between Basis and Hardy - and the rest to privates or move.

Murch has around 25% OOB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Murch+Elementary+School+%40+UDC , Hearst 52% OOB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hearst+Elementary+School.

[Janney 92% IB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Janney+Elementary+School; Lafayette 88% OOB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Janney+Elementary+School]

Hardy is now at 23% IB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School
Deal is 70% IB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School
Wilson 56% IB http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Woodrow+Wilson+High+School

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Anonymous wrote:"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.

+1. And some of these tiny studios are 'passed down' among friends and families.

Both Deal and Wilson have a large OOB population so I doubt this.

Deal no longer has a giant OOB population - they're done to a little over a quarter.

Exactly! Wilson still does and I sure hope they crack down on it like Deal did.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.

+1. And some of these tiny studios are 'passed down' among friends and families.

Both Deal and Wilson have a large OOB population so I doubt this.

Deal no longer has a giant OOB population - they're done to a little over a quarter.

Easy fix: a full menu of small, test-in honors classes, with half a dozen foreign language taught, at Hardy offering true rigor and acceleration with great teachers. Done.

DCPS has never been willing to offer most of the Hardy feeder parents anything like what they're looking for in a middle school. System leaders well deserve the tradition of boundary cheating.

Hardy's catchment area is at least 3/4s white while the school was 11% white last school year.

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Anonymous wrote:"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.

+1. And some of these tiny studios are 'passed down' among friends and families.

Both Deal and Wilson have a large OOB population so I doubt this.

Anonymous wrote:"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.

+1. And some of these tiny studios are 'passed down' among friends and families.

"Renting but not occupying for IB purposes" has been around for ages. Ward 3 residents who live in-boundary for Hardy but prefer Deal have been doing this for more than a decade. Many Horace Mann and Key graduates have gone straight through Deal (rather than their in-boundary middle school, Hardy) thanks to this famous rich-person loophole. $1K for a tiny studio apt near Connecticut is all it takes. If DCPS could figure out a way to stop it, they would have by now. Those with kids at overcrowded Deal and Wilson should be coming up with ways to fix this problem because despite the fact that it only benefits the wealthy, DCPS has come up with absolutely no solutions.