Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:59     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
The point was made that YY is no longer quite as attractive to DC parents as it was in the past. Sorry, but it's a valid point. Competing Spanish immersion charters have gained ground in the last couple of years. Good. As has been pointed out, they practice what they preach despite the single charter admissions limitation.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:37     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:Interesting, so the luster has finally come off the YY star.


Yes, out of hundreds of schools, YY now has the 5th longest WL. A sure sign of the school's impending demise.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:33     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



But YY doesn't need to practice what it preaches. Few parents can hear the weak Chinese, DCI Chinese IB Diploma exams graded in Geneva (including recorded interviews) haven't highlighted flaws in their model yet, and their WL is the longest in the charter universe. Their location is central and they have lovely facilities and hardly any poors. Also, bilingual American Chinese are resented for their success in this country and career access to the rising China. Accommodating this crowd is very low priority in the DC public school universe.


WL isn't longest anymore.

LAMB, DC Bilingual, Creative Minds and MV's wait lists are all longer.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/waitlist-data



Can we expect multiple threads bashing these schools then? Or does none of the criticism focused on YY apply to these schools?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:18     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



But YY doesn't need to practice what it preaches. Few parents can hear the weak Chinese, DCI Chinese IB Diploma exams graded in Geneva (including recorded interviews) haven't highlighted flaws in their model yet, and their WL is the longest in the charter universe. Their location is central and they have lovely facilities and hardly any poors. Also, bilingual American Chinese are resented for their success in this country and career access to the rising China. Accommodating this crowd is very low priority in the DC public school universe.



"Poors" - disgusting.


Are you reading for content or in the hopes of having a knee-jerk reaction? The poster was criticizing YY. The school makes great use of Mandarin to deter FARMs families from applying. Practical approach actually, since common sense dictates that housing project and Section 8 voucher kids need to focus on learning English.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:16     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Interesting, so the luster has finally come off the YY star.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:05     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



But YY doesn't need to practice what it preaches. Few parents can hear the weak Chinese, DCI Chinese IB Diploma exams graded in Geneva (including recorded interviews) haven't highlighted flaws in their model yet, and their WL is the longest in the charter universe. Their location is central and they have lovely facilities and hardly any poors. Also, bilingual American Chinese are resented for their success in this country and career access to the rising China. Accommodating this crowd is very low priority in the DC public school universe.


WL isn't longest anymore.

LAMB, DC Bilingual, Creative Minds and MV's wait lists are all longer.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/waitlist-data

Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:04     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



But YY doesn't need to practice what it preaches. Few parents can hear the weak Chinese, DCI Chinese IB Diploma exams graded in Geneva (including recorded interviews) haven't highlighted flaws in their model yet, and their WL is the longest in the charter universe. Their location is central and they have lovely facilities and hardly any poors. Also, bilingual American Chinese are resented for their success in this country and career access to the rising China. Accommodating this crowd is very low priority in the DC public school universe.



"Poors" - disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 13:00     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



But YY doesn't need to practice what it preaches. Few parents can hear the weak Chinese, DCI Chinese IB Diploma exams graded in Geneva (including recorded interviews) haven't highlighted flaws in their model yet, and their WL is the longest in the charter universe. Their location is central and they have lovely facilities and hardly any poors. Also, bilingual American Chinese are resented for their success in this country and career access to the rising China. Accommodating this crowd is very low priority in the DC public school universe.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 12:51     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.



Pants On Fire Alert: Sela has never had open houses run in Hebrew in English.


Wrong. If you ask to attend a Sela open house with Hebrew translation, the request will be honored.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 12:43     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



Which other DC immersion schools are 98% English speaking, or 90% Spanish?


None are -- but the people who might show up for a particular parent workshop or open house can and do skew this way, depending on subject and location.

My kids went to LAMB; even if no one in the audience obviously 'needed' the content in Spanish (or English), it was always given in both languages.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 12:28     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.



Which other DC immersion schools are 98% English speaking, or 90% Spanish?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 12:26     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.


Other DC immersion schools run every open house, every PTO meeting, and produce every newsletter and document in both languages. Even when the audience is 98% English dominant or 90% Spanish dominant. It's a matter or practicing what they preach, even if it is 'useless' to many of parents who attend.

Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 12:25     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Anonymous wrote:Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.



Pants On Fire Alert: Sela has never had open houses run in Hebrew in English.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 12:07     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Former YY parent who can pretty much guarantee that DCPC will be hiring a new Mandarin auditor after a few years of posting IB Diploma assessment results!!
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 11:58     Subject: Re: Yu Ying - Do/Can Non-Native Kids Actually SPEAK Chinese?
Two languages at YY open houses? What a question. The head speaks really basic, poorly pronounced Mandarin, and there usually isn't an admin who speaks Cantonese (though some teachers who do). Admins know that a presentation in Chinese would be useless to almost all the parents they attract in the absence of outreach to the immigrant community. They've never bothered and, to my knowledge, don't get complaints about the arrangement.

I hear you, I've been to open houses run in English and Spanish, English and French, and even English and Hebrew in DC public.