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Anonymous wrote:Fellow Trump voters: everyday you guys check in on dcum and mix it up with the political opposition, both democrat and republican, despite being outnumbered about 5 to 1 on here and contending with a decidedly liberal moderator. Yet here you are, day in and day out, punching the clock, defending the President, extolling the virtues of law enforcement, free speech, and capitalism. You are the best! America is lucky to have you, and so is this political forum. To the liberal opposition--you are wrong. About everything. From taxes to immigration to law enforcement to free speech to climate change, I've never encountered a group of people like yourselves who, despite having all of the evidence in front of you, continue to make the wrong choices--both about what you believe and who you support.
Now, having cleared the air, can we all be Facebook friends again?

Your Orange Leader is decidedly opposed to free speech. I have not seen a single post by a Trumpskyite in favor of free speech. Your OL is constantly calling stories he doesn't like "fake" and he's constantly lying about pretty much everything. That's not free speech. That's promulgating lies, as many Trumpskyites do here, many of them paid, I'm certain of that. And many Russian, also.

It cracks me up when you guys rationalize that only paid posters and Russians could *possibly* be the conservative posters. It's clear you still think that's an exciting (and true) story line, but it only makes you look even more ridiculous and impossibly naïve.

Also, you must be new here. There have been post after post by conservatives and/or Trump voters (remember, they're not always one in the same) defending the right to free speech. It's unfortunate that we have to put up with Neo-Nazi and KKK trash spewing their hateful speech, but they're within their rights - as are counter protesters and anyone else, for that matter. If anything, it's you liberals who want to silence anyone who dares to disagree with you. Why is that?

NP... and I have to seriously disagree with your nonsense premise about how the left "silences" others.

We don't silence anyone.

You say "X"

We say "You're WRONG, it's Y and here's why...."

That isn't silencing you. Sorry but free speech is a two way street. You are free to exercise your right of free speech to say the things you say, even though what you say is typically misinformed, factless talking points full of rhetorical fallacies, and we are free to exercise our right of free speech to call you out for it. If you think free speech means you get to say whatever you like and spew "alternative facts" ala your hero Donald Trump and it will just go uncontested, then that's just plain wrong. That isn't how free speech works. We aren't silencing you at all. The only person here who has the power to delete posts is Jeff and he is his own person. More likely you're just mad that we keep debunking your bogus talking points and taking your credibility away. That isn't something you should be blaming us for, it's something you can only blame yourself for.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, OP. I am a Trump voter. I don’t like everything he has said, but I do agree with the policies he wants to implement. I also agree with most of the EOs he has signed thus far.

I only wish people could be more reasonable in responses here on DCUM. The constant name calling and accusations thrown at anonymous posters is tiring and frankly, ridiculous.
I also believe that Republicans and Democrats really both desire what is best for our country - we just disagree about what those things are and how to achieve them.

I also believe that conservatives are outnumbers more like 20:1 here. Just my opinion.

I come here less frequently these days because of some of the name calling and stupid threads that appear. I will continue to come on occasion to be a voice of the vocal minority here.

But I am willing to hold my nose to the racism, global craziness and collusion with the Russian because tax cuts.

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When you vote for him, you are deciding that the things you abhor are not as important as the things you like. Seems hard to justify.

Nope. Liberal logic again. Obviously, we have decided that the things we abhor (like a few KKK rallies, which have always been around) are nowhere near as harmful to our country as liberal policies. That's why we have elections.

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Agree completely. I also will never understand the liberal need for drama, i.e. "counter protesting" at the KKK rallies. Why give these monsters the time of day? Counter protesters are playing right into their hands - they're engaging with, and therefore legitimizing, Neo-Nazis. Stop the madness - stop engaging and start ignoring.

Of course, liberals will never take that advice. They love the optics so much they could never resist an opportunity to march with silly signs.

And the vagina costumes. Can't forget those. I know you guys love them.

Anyone who would put on something like this has mental issues. As a pro-choice woman, I'm embarrassed and disgusted that they are making a mockery of women's reproductive rights. No wonder no one takes them seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump voters will not be satisfied until they have dragged the rest of the country down into their cesspool of racism, bigotry, and frustrated mediocrity.

Because they have failed to fully capitalize on their privilege as American citizens, they want everyone else to suffer for their underachievement.

It's pathetic.

Can't wait until Trumps term is over and we can get back to rebuilding the country again.

Keep telling yourself that: I grew up in an area that slowly died under the policies of the country's most vaulted Democrats.

Keeeeeeeep telling yourself that.

You've got all the answers? Sure you do.

Most of the country thrived. Because you made the decision to live in area of concentrated underachievement and mediocrity you want the rest of us to suffer. When are you all going to take some personal responsibility for your bad decisions?

Begging the government to "give us back our jobs", while railing against the idea of "big government". Extolling the virtues of free marker capitalism while refusing to educate yourself to remain competitive in a changing economy.

The hypocrisy is hysterical.

Wait, Dreamers are the victims of their parents decisions but, American kids from poor parts of the country are victims of their own decisions and need to tKe some personal responsibility. And I have, Dear PP, I have. I will never stop until that part of the country is made whole.

Also, I did move and sacrifice. The hypocrisy would be hysterical if anything you typed was accurate.

Haha why are you bring up the dreamers? We're talking about the bastion of complacency and laziness that you call home. We all know immigrants aren't welcome there. You all are experts at blaming eleveryone they can find their problems. Immigrants should take themselves and their overachieving and talented children out of this dying country and leave you all to pick your own fruit, write your own code, research and develop your own drugs.

Oh wait... I forgot this country's bread and butter it's made on white people exploiting the physical and mental labor of black, brown and yellow bodies. From slavery onward. Even if you kick the dreamers out y'all will just find another low wage group to traffic and exploit. Lol!

I can't believe I'm responding to your poorly written post, but here goes: PP made a very valid point re: dreamers. Here's a group of kids/young adults, who, through no fault of their own, wound up in the U.S. Most people agree, they're not to blame for their situation (though one would hope it doesn't continue with ever more illegal immigrants moving their kids here). And yet liberals see nothing wrong with blaming the kids of poor, white Americans for simply living in an undesirable, low-income geographic area. Why do you blame one group and not the other? You are all such hypocrites, it boggles the mind.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ Comparing what Trump made in speeches AS A BUSINESSMAN to others who are politicians is like comparing apples to oranges.

Not only that, but liberals talk about how awful Trump is and how hated he is, but as pp pointed out, he must be someone people really want to hear speak if that's what his rates are! He makes all of those other people look like a joke!

He's the most bigly narcissist/grifter of them all. Winning! MAGA!

He has close competition from Hillary - who is the ultimate narcissist and grifter.

What about Obama? Didn't he say "we are the ones we've been waiting for" and the "seas will rise" (or was it part)? He just polished up his act a bit more.

These were his actual words, "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” It was BS, like the rest of that speech.

Well at least he can speak in complete sentences.

Yes. Cringe-worthy, melodramatic, complete sentences.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, OP. I am a Trump voter. I don’t like everything he has said, but I do agree with the policies he wants to implement. I also agree with most of the EOs he has signed thus far.

I only wish people could be more reasonable in responses here on DCUM. The constant name calling and accusations thrown at anonymous posters is tiring and frankly, ridiculous.
I also believe that Republicans and Democrats really both desire what is best for our country - we just disagree about what those things are and how to achieve them.

I also believe that conservatives are outnumbers more like 20:1 here. Just my opinion.

I come here less frequently these days because of some of the name calling and stupid threads that appear. I will continue to come on occasion to be a voice of the vocal minority here.

But I am willing to hold my nose to the racism, global craziness and collusion with the Russian because tax cuts.

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When you vote for him, you are deciding that the things you abhor are not as important as the things you like. Seems hard to justify.

Nope. Liberal logic again. Obviously, we have decided that the things we abhor (like a few KKK rallies, which have always been around) are nowhere near as harmful to our country as liberal policies. That's why we have elections.

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Agree completely. I also will never understand the liberal need for drama, i.e. "counter protesting" at the KKK rallies. Why give these monsters the time of day? Counter protesters are playing right into their hands - they're engaging with, and therefore legitimizing, Neo-Nazis. Stop the madness - stop engaging and start ignoring.

Of course, liberals will never take that advice. They love the optics so much they could never resist an opportunity to march with silly signs.

I know, they need to lean to march orderly with torches and flags

They need to learn not to march at all.

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Anonymous wrote:IS OP the 'exhausted conservative' snowflake?

NP and this was my guess, too.

I don't think so. Entirely different writing style and content.

I think it is the same OP, just trying to mask her writing voice.

Good Lord! You people are still under the delusion that there are only one or two conservatives who are appalled by the liberals. There are many of us, and you should have realized that when you lost the election.

We're sure there are loads of conservatives appalled by liberals. We think there are but a few self-identifying Trump supporters who are such regular participants on DCUM.

You would be wrong. Yet again.

Anonymous wrote:Fuck Trump

I've skipped the last few midterms because of sheer laziness but the Orange Asshole has me motivated enough to go out and vote for any Democrat the next midterms. That waffling crony Barbara Comstock needs to go and I will do my to help ensure that a Dem majority congress large enough to cockblock Trumpie at every turn.

You sound like a really lovely person. I'm sure you have many friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow Trump voters: everyday you guys check in on dcum and mix it up with the political opposition, both democrat and republican, despite being outnumbered about 5 to 1 on here and contending with a decidedly liberal moderator. Yet here you are, day in and day out, punching the clock, defending the President, extolling the virtues of law enforcement, free speech, and capitalism. You are the best! America is lucky to have you, and so is this political forum. To the liberal opposition--you are wrong. About everything. From taxes to immigration to law enforcement to free speech to climate change, I've never encountered a group of people like yourselves who, despite having all of the evidence in front of you, continue to make the wrong choices--both about what you believe and who you support.
Now, having cleared the air, can we all be Facebook friends again?

Your Orange Leader is decidedly opposed to free speech. I have not seen a single post by a Trumpskyite in favor of free speech. Your OL is constantly calling stories he doesn't like "fake" and he's constantly lying about pretty much everything. That's not free speech. That's promulgating lies, as many Trumpskyites do here, many of them paid, I'm certain of that. And many Russian, also.

It cracks me up when you guys rationalize that only paid posters and Russians could *possibly* be the conservative posters. It's clear you still think that's an exciting (and true) story line, but it only makes you look even more ridiculous and impossibly naïve.

Also, you must be new here. There have been post after post by conservatives and/or Trump voters (remember, they're not always one in the same) defending the right to free speech. It's unfortunate that we have to put up with Neo-Nazi and KKK trash spewing their hateful speech, but they're within their rights - as are counter protesters and anyone else, for that matter. If anything, it's you liberals who want to silence anyone who dares to disagree with you. Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow Trump voters: everyday you guys check in on dcum and mix it up with the political opposition, both democrat and republican, despite being outnumbered about 5 to 1 on here and contending with a decidedly liberal moderator. Yet here you are, day in and day out, punching the clock, defending the President, extolling the virtues of law enforcement, free speech, and capitalism. You are the best! America is lucky to have you, and so is this political forum. To the liberal opposition--you are wrong. About everything. From taxes to immigration to law enforcement to free speech to climate change, I've never encountered a group of people like yourselves who, despite having all of the evidence in front of you, continue to make the wrong choices--both about what you believe and who you support.
Now, having cleared the air, can we all be Facebook friends again?

Hahaha - yeah, keep thinking you're doing something worthwhile by fighting with people on DCUM. Maybe it keeps you riled up and delivers the drama you crave but you are seriously wasting your time.

You mean like all the liberals here, constantly posting rage-filled sputterings? Talk about craving drama. Do you actually think you and your cronies are doing something worthwhile? I know you think you're "bringing the lapsed conservatives back into the fold," but we just laugh when we read your navel-gazing love letters to yourselves. NO ONE is asking your forgiveness. Hard to grasp, I know. Take some time to let that sink in.

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Anonymous wrote:IS OP the 'exhausted conservative' snowflake?

NP and this was my guess, too.

I don't think so. Entirely different writing style and content.

I think it is the same OP, just trying to mask her writing voice.

Good Lord! You people are still under the delusion that there are only one or two conservatives who are appalled by the liberals. There are many of us, and you should have realized that when you lost the election.

+1 Different conservative here who thinks it’s hilarious that some posters here try to identify threads with the same OP.
That tells me right away that some people are spending far too much time on DCUM and not out actually living life. They are living a “virtual life.” Sad!

I heard a psychologist talking about why liberals have gone off the deep end with this loss, and their insistence that anyone who voted for Trump is a horrid racist, deserving of punishment. It's because, according to him, the liberals had cnvinced themselves of their moral superiority - and that their position is the only correct one. When they lost the election, and were told in effect that (as an example), "no....your position on illegal immigrants is wrong," they couldn't process it. So they continue to delude themselves into thinking that there are still very few people who reject their "morally superior" positions.

This thread and others shows it to be true. There is even another thread discussing whether the very few Trump voters who said they voted wrong are deserved of forgiveness from liberals. They act like they think they're God, deciding whom to forgive.

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I'd love to publicize these threads that show liberals to be the sanctimonious hypocrites they are. I'm sure conservatives and independents around the country would be appalled to see how liberals actually think.

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Anonymous wrote:IS OP the 'exhausted conservative' snowflake?

NP and this was my guess, too.

I don't think so. Entirely different writing style and content.

I think it is the same OP, just trying to mask her writing voice.

Good Lord! You people are still under the delusion that there are only one or two conservatives who are appalled by the liberals. There are many of us, and you should have realized that when you lost the election.

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You'd think they would've learned by now, but no. Their arrogance truly knows no bounds.

We know there are lots of morons. That's how we got Trump.

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NP and this was my guess, too.

I don't think so. Entirely different writing style and content.

I think it is the same OP, just trying to mask her writing voice.

Good Lord! You people are still under the delusion that there are only one or two conservatives who are appalled by the liberals. There are many of us, and you should have realized that when you lost the election.

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You'd think they would've learned by now, but no. Their arrogance truly knows no bounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Luckily since basically all the Trump supporters can fit into one mid-sized stadium you can give them this great big pep talk in person - if they could be bothered showing up.

You can fit almost half of all voters in a single stadium? The number of people who voted for Trump would populate New York City 12 times over.

Keep your head in the sand.

Just looking at the stats, darlin

How's that wall coming? Have any of your very fine people killed peaceful protestors recently? Who's bailed on your Herr Trump today?

You guys are surely proving just how sane, kind, and competent you are, on a daily basis.

Shouldn't you be beating your war drums right now or performing a sacrificial offering to the weapons of mass destruction contract God? Are you listening to your fav 1A Rights band Propha-Gandhi while shutting down the voices of simple taxpayers?

Antagonizing a group of people who feel prosperity has passed them by taking their taxes will not work past, present or future. Smh, people....This is Poli Sci 101.

You guys love to make threats, too! You threaten us liberals for not liking you enough (or at all), you want to threaten NK into blowing us up, you want to threaten the country into building your idiotic wall. Such good people, you are! And such powerful negotiators, obviously, based on how successfully your agenda is going so far.

DP here.
1) We have never cared whether liberals "like" us, nor do we threaten you for not liking us. That is entirely the liberal MO. Witness all the absurd posts saying liberals have ended friendships with people who voted for Trump. Pretty pathetic, but that's your problem - not ours.
2) We haven't "threatened NK into blowing us up." How absurd.
3) No one has threatened you into building the wall, which I agree, is ridiculous. As long as illegal immigration is stopped, there's really no need for a physical wall.
4) Yes, we are good people - who don't agree with your agenda. Interesting how you feel people are "good" only as long as they toe the liberal line.
5) You sound incredibly bitter. Sorry things aren't going your way, and better luck next time. You'll need it.

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

Did you LISTEN to that hateful, lie-filled speech that the Confederate elf delivered today?

I didn’t see any speech by a confederate elf.
I did hear AG Sessions deliver a very powerful, convincing speech as to why this decision is the right one.
It’s obvious you don’t like this administration. But, Trump got this right. Blame Obama.

That's not what he said. He kept calling them illegal aliens and claimed they are stealing jobs. He said that they'd rushed to the border in recent years upon DACA going into effect, which is a bald faced lie. He demonized these children. These children who were brought here when they were too young to make choices for themselves, and have by and large never known another home. And he looked gleeful while he did it. It was monstrous.

DP. Could you please clarify why you believe the more recent crush of teens and young adults rushing the Southern border was a lie. TIA.

First off, illegal immigration is down. Second off, those kids who came to the border after Obama announced DACA aren't eligible for DACA. So sessions just lied his stupid face off, conflating these groups of people.

You don't believe there was a rush at the border before the June 2012 cutoff deadline? TIA.

I cut and pasted this information for people:

What Is DACA?

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is a kind of administrative relief from deportation. The purpose of DACA is to protect eligible immigrant youth who came to the United States when they were children from deportation. DACA gives young undocumented immigrants: 1) protection from deportation, and 2) a work permit. The program expires after two years, subject to renewal* (subject to Congressional Action as of 9/5/17 then by President Trump in March 2017 if Congress is unable to compromise.)

What Are The Requirements For DACA?

You were under 31 years old as of June 15, 2012;
You first came to the United States before your 16th birthday;
You have lived continuously in the United States from June 15, 2007 until the present;
You were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012 and at the time you apply;
You came to the United States without documents before June 15, 2012, or your lawful status expired as of June 15, 2012;
You are currently studying, or you graduated from high school or earned a certificate of completion of high school or GED, or have been honorably discharged from the Coast Guard or military (technical and trade school completion also qualifies); and
You have NOT been convicted of a felony, certain significant misdemeanors (including a single DUI), or three or more misdemeanors of any kind. Consult with an attorney about ANY contact you have had with law enforcement or immigration authorities.

Anonymous wrote:Send. Them. All. Home. Enforcing laws is easy, all one needs is cojones. I expect most liberals don't know much about that. Hell, they vote people out of the party for being pro-life.

The president who pardoned Arpaio doesn't get to take about enforcing laws. And neither does his racist head Elf.