Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you drones are saying, Miller was eloquent and backed up every question with facts. Thrush and Acosta started to interrupt to the point they were being obnoxious and petty. That is the problem with the 4th Estate and they hate being called out for it, regardless if they ignore their cosmopolitan mindset. If someone in the media treated Valerie Jarrett the same way they treated Miller yesterday, there would be outrage on this board. Admit lefties, there are two sets of rules depending on your party affiliation.

THIS. So true.

Anonymous wrote:For those of you defending Miller and this policy, please read this article in the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/03/acosta-versus-miller-a-lurking-ideological-conflict-about-the-statue-of-liberty/

You are defending rhetoric that is purposefully appealing to the Alt-Right base.

That makes you a Nazi sympathizer. An before you go off on me, understand, silence is complicity and I will not remain silent.

This is nothing more that promoting the views and ideals of white surpremeicsts.

It's not just people like PP and Donald Trump and Miller who should be held responsible for promoting the views and ideals of white supremacists, it is also people like McMaster and Kelly who should be held responsible. Either one could fire Miller; instead they sign off on sending Miller out on stage to defend proposed Administration in white nationalist terms. Both of them are generals and probably think their job is to follow the orders of the President. But, generals also have an obligation (and swear an oath) to defend the Constitution. When these obligations come into conflict, their greater obligation is to the Constitution...

If Kelly and McMaster continue to permit this kind of white nationalist rhetoric to spew from the White House, I hope they are both personally tarred by it.

Anonymous wrote:Linky: http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/08/02/white-house-briefing-immigration-plan-acosta-april-ryan-miller-full.cnn

Good God.

Our government is run by weenies.

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Very funny. Rumor is he's asexual, so I guess he's not interested in marriage. But even if he were, it would be slim pickings...even in Washington.

I love it when yentas who watch the Bachelor and gush over some unemployed gym rat diss accomplished men:

31
Famous
Duke alum
$160,000 per year
Trim, dresses 'J Crew'
Most powerful & connected young bachelor in D.C.

He's top 0.01 percentile for bachelors. He can get any woman in DC he wants. He probably has very high standards, as he should.

Prematurely balding
Looks half asleep all of the time
Famous for association with Trump, Bannon, and Spencer
Graduate of notorious bro school
Entry level law or consulting salary
Skinny, can't even coordinate outfits without a catalog picture to follow
No real power compared to many bachelor senators and reps who have actually won elections themselves

Also doesn't know the difference between correlation and causation. That would be a major deal-breaker for me.

I didn't realize how bad Duke's reputation had become until I took my daughter there this summer to look at the school and possibly apply. Truthfully, given her grades, test scores and athletics, and other activities, Duke is more of a target than a reach for her. But, despite a lovely campus, and what look to be excellent academics, DD would not even consider it because of the bro reputation and vibe she got about the school. We talked about it after the visit, and she indicated that many of her friends have the same negative opinion as she does about school. She pointed out how most of the "tour" focused on one white guy making basketball shots around campus, and, while it was amusing, it definitely sent a message that the white jock is valued and basketball is king.

I personally look at Miller and the way he treated Acosta and think, if my husband spoke to me like that I'd divorce him. The bullying, name-calling and lack of really deep historical knowledge (new the Lazarus poem was added later, but not that the Lazarus poem was written in 1883 and used to raise funds for the pedestal on which the Statue of Liberty was mounted in 1886) was really disturbing behavior, but not unexpected from the WH.

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Very funny. Rumor is he's asexual, so I guess he's not interested in marriage. But even if he were, it would be slim pickings...even in Washington.

I love it when yentas who watch the Bachelor and gush over some unemployed gym rat diss accomplished men:

31
Famous
Duke alum
$160,000 per year
Trim, dresses 'J Crew'
Most powerful & connected young bachelor in D.C.

He's top 0.01 percentile for bachelors. He can get any woman in DC he wants. He probably has very high standards, as he should.

Sounds pretty cosmopolitan to me.

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Very funny. Rumor is he's asexual, so I guess he's not interested in marriage. But even if he were, it would be slim pickings...even in Washington.


I love it when yentas who watch the Bachelor and gush over some unemployed gym rat diss accomplished men:

31
Famous
Duke alum
$160,000 per year
Trim, dresses 'J Crew'
Most powerful & connected young bachelor in D.C.

He's top 0.01 percentile for bachelors. He can get any woman in DC he wants. He probably has very high standards, as he should.


Prematurely balding
Looks half asleep all of the time
Famous for association with Trump, Bannon, and Spencer
Graduate of notorious bro school
Entry level law or consulting salary
Skinny, can't even coordinate outfits without a catalog picture to follow
No real power compared to many bachelor senators and reps who have actually won elections themselves

If we're just going for popularity with women, Acosta beats Miller hands down. Acosta has plenty of hair, looks like George Clooney, and makes a ton more money than skinny boy. Acosta isn't perfect I'm sure . . . but Miller comes off as a total whiny jerk.

No woman on earth thinks that Miller > Acosta. Not even Miller's mom.

Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.

It's not supposed to be a battle, is it? The administration may be confrontational and adversarial, but why does one side have to "have the upper hand"?

Nor did Miller "win" in logic, because he so often was attributing arguments to others, Acosta and others, that they didn't say. He was arguing against himself, or against the public, not against the people asking him questions. He didn't answer those questions, either, but that's pretty normal for a politician.

Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.

Except his interpretation of facts and thus interpretation of history are skewed towards and alt-right perspective. If you agree with that perspective, then I can understand how you would think he "won" the exchange. The fact is however, that his understanding of the significance of the poem as it relates to the significance of the statue are not shared with the overwhelming view and understanding of historians, literature and art historians nationally and internationally.

Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.

Miller was 100% wrong about the history and context: Lazarus's poem on the statue was WRITTEN EXPRESSLY TO FUNDRAISE FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE BASE OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. It's a fact. This is what actually happened.

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Anonymous wrote:
Very funny. Rumor is he's asexual, so I guess he's not interested in marriage. But even if he were, it would be slim pickings...even in Washington.

I love it when yentas who watch the Bachelor and gush over some unemployed gym rat diss accomplished men:

31
Famous
Duke alum
$160,000 per year
Trim, dresses 'J Crew'
Most powerful & connected young bachelor in D.C.

He's top 0.01 percentile for bachelors. He can get any woman in DC he wants. He probably has very high standards, as he should.

Prematurely balding
Looks half asleep all of the time
Famous for association with Trump, Bannon, and Spencer
Graduate of notorious bro school
Entry level law or consulting salary
Skinny, can't even coordinate outfits without a catalog picture to follow
No real power compared to many bachelor senators and reps who have actually won elections themselves

Also doesn't know the difference between correlation and causation. That would be a major deal-breaker for me.

I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.

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Very funny. Rumor is he's asexual, so I guess he's not interested in marriage. But even if he were, it would be slim pickings...even in Washington.


I love it when yentas who watch the Bachelor and gush over some unemployed gym rat diss accomplished men:

31
Famous
Duke alum
$160,000 per year
Trim, dresses 'J Crew'
Most powerful & connected young bachelor in D.C.

He's top 0.01 percentile for bachelors. He can get any woman in DC he wants. He probably has very high standards, as he should.


Prematurely balding
Looks half asleep all of the time
Famous for association with Trump, Bannon, and Spencer
Graduate of notorious bro school
Entry level law or consulting salary
Skinny, can't even coordinate outfits without a catalog picture to follow
No real power compared to many bachelor senators and reps who have actually won elections themselves

If we're just going for popularity with women, Acosta beats Miller hands down. Acosta has plenty of hair, looks like George Clooney, and makes a ton more money than skinny boy. Acosta isn't perfect I'm sure . . . but Miller comes off as a total whiny jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:I see the left has resorted to personalizing the story, when the facts are the whinny press were schooled by someone who knew his $hit.

Those aren't the facts.

What specifically did Miller say that was untrue or do you have to go to your left wing Politifact website to find it? Don't worry, I will wait.

This is not a person "who knew his $hit", unless you meant that literally.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1708/02/cnr.07.html

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Anonymous wrote:I see the left has resorted to personalizing the story, when the facts are the whinny press were schooled by someone who knew his $hit.

Those aren't the facts.

What specifically did Miller say that was untrue or do you have to go to your left wing Politifact website to find it? Don't worry, I will wait.

You weren't talking to me but can I jump in?

Miller knows nothing about Emma Lazarus. That's for starters.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56782/stephen-miller-jim-acosta/

So the attempted schooling was based wholly on wrong - dead-wrong - facts. I'll wait for your reasoned response.

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Anonymous wrote:I see the left has resorted to personalizing the story, when the facts are the whinny press were schooled by someone who knew his $hit.

Saw the interaction yesterday. 100% correct. Need more of this. Reason thinks of themselves as elite and need taking down a few pegs

You are defending White Nationalist propaganda. I hope you can live with yourself.

NP - funny I heard Miller agree with April Ryan when she piped up that African Americans should be ahead of the illegals. How does this and the bold above square?