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Anonymous wrote:A bunch of stay at home mommies with gender studies "degrees" talking politics.


How cute.

And at least one person who started a successful business that has brought $100MM+ in foreign dollars to the US. Oh yeah, I also have advanced degrees in law and international relations, studying with the architects of post-WWII US foreign policy.

I've shown you mine. How 'bout you show me yours?

Stage fright?

#NeverTrump

No STEM, no real degree.

Sorry, sugar.

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Anonymous wrote:A bunch of stay at home mommies with gender studies "degrees" talking politics.


How cute.

And at least one person who started a successful business that has brought $100MM+ in foreign dollars to the US. Oh yeah, I also have advanced degrees in law and international relations, studying with the architects of post-WWII US foreign policy.

I've shown you mine. How 'bout you show me yours?

Stage fright?

#NeverTrump

Anonymous wrote:A bunch of stay at home mommies with gender studies "degrees" talking politics.


How cute.

So, what your grand plan for your Sinner-in-Chief?? 5 kids from 3 different women and adultery, why is the same Pence protecting him and punishing gays???? Why doesn't Pence send his buddy to the same spiritual camp so that he commits sins no more. The mere fact that Pence slept with the devil is the sign he is not the christian you are projecting him to be.

Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.

Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.

Garrison Keillor has said it best:

We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.

I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.

Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.

Garrison Keillor has said it best:

We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.

I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.

Yeah, because working class white people are all about "guns and heroin." Idiot! Maybe you are the one who is uneducated.

NP. Well to be fair, that poster should have included "bibles".

And here is another reason why Trump won. A large segment of the population are Christians who love God and Country. Muslims also revere the bible as well as the Koran so you insult them too. Only an utter fool would insult someone's religion and expect that person to vote for their party.

Keep on insulting them, calling them stupid, that they don't believe your philosophy-touted-as-science nonsense. You just keep on with that track and see how much more political power you lose. In the past, politicians wisely shut their mouths and did not insult people's religion but this election cycle, perhaps emboldened by polls (and we know how reliable those are now) that stated Americans are turning atheist at a fast rate, the ungodly decided to show their butts and they got spanked.

Why do you think stating the obvious is an insult. Just stating a fact that you in your around about way agreed that middle America white folks love their bibles. How is that not true, as you yourself agreed and how is a fact an insult?

The fact you think people who worship God and read the bible are stupid, and you are firmly convinced of this, says that there is no common ground between us. You have an iron kettle over your head that only allows you to think what you think is true and that is that and nothing will change it. You don't get. You never will. It is impossible for us to reason together, hence, people like you must be defeated and stripped of all power and influence in our country. If you are university professor, parents will do what I have done and pre-warn them what they are going to try and teach: people who believe in God are backwards, living in the Dark Ages. I know it, I have been to college and have gone through it. It made me stronger.

NP here. I'm a moderate Christian and I totally disagree with you. In my experience, it's the evangelical movement that has blinders on, that repudiates the science that God granted us the reason to understand, that preaches judgment and rejection instead of freedom and acceptance.

Evangelicals have abandoned Christ's teachings. I pray that God forgives them their pride and their cruelty.

Not hardly. Science that says God did not create humans as it says in Genesis is not science but philosophy. Calling out sin for what it is --homosexuality and adultery, is not being proud and cruel it is pointing out the truth.

Look, we are not going to get along. You have something wrapped over your head, and your mind is sunk too deep in some kind of secular mud. You and I will never agree. It is pointless to even argue. My mind is not going to change and neither is yours. Let us just drop it at that. Think all you want about Evangelicals who take what Jesus said seriously about sin and repentance. Say all you want, believe them to be stupid redneck rubes or what have you. But in this election, Evangelical blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, non-denominational, and all the rest have voted for their interests and there is nothing you can do to change that for the next 2 to 8 years.

As someone who claims to believe in God and Christ don't you believe that Heaven is your home and not this earth?
Doesn't your God and your Christ teach you that your job on earth is to bring people to heaven not make laws that make you more comfortable?
Doesn't your God and your Christ teach you that you are to follow his laws ( meaning no abortions etc for yourselves) no matter the laws of the land?
How are different from the Muslims and others you condemn when you attempt to force your beliefs on everyone through law?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys make me feel so good about my decision not to vote for Hillary

What you're seeing here from Democrats is just the flip-side of what rural Trump voters have been saying.

The non-college, rural Trump voters say they feel ignored, left out, and taken advantage of by "liberal elite" Democrats. So they voted for Trump, because they think he'll help them by somehow throwing out foreign workers and bringing back blue-collar jobs.

But Clinton supporters don't see themselves as "liberal elites." We see ourselves as hard-working people looking out for the working class, and hoping to shield them from the bad activities of corporations and the upper class. We truly think Donald Trump is just snowing you with his promises, and he's really planning to work with the corporations and lobbyists to screw the working class even harder. For many of us who have college degrees, and live in urban areas with steady jobs, we are actually voting against our own economic self-interest by voting Democrat, because it probably raises our taxes to help protect the struggling rural non-college population.

We both see the same problems in America. Each party thinks it's the one that's really trying to help, and that the other party's solutions will make the problem worse. You think you're helping, and we think we're helping.

But when we Democrats see all the exact same people we're trying to help vote Trump, and when we hear them sneering and blaming us for their problem, it's frustrating. So you shouldn't be surprised if many of us are saying "Screw it. They don't want our help anyway. So let's just help ourselves and watch how badly those working class voters get screwed under Trump's policies. They can choke on the problems they created for themselves."

For me, it kind of feels like I tried to help my younger sibling deal with a substance abuse problem, by helping him look for a job, buying him food, and letting him sleep on my couch. And then I woke up on Wednesday morning, and discovered he's trashed all my stuff and set my apartment on fire. So I'm not feeling much love for helping him anymore.

God, you guys are condescending. Get off your high horse. No wonder your hypothetical younger sibling can't stand you.

Maybe you should explain more if you want me to understand you. Where I'm left with your response is just feeling more hate and resentment from you. If you don't want help from Democrats and their policies, I guess that's fine, and we can just go our separate ways ... kind of like the title of this thread suggests. Good luck with Trump's policies.

Anonymous wrote:I am so done about caring about the poor whites in this country. They can have their guns and heroin and bring on their early deaths for all I care.

Why do voters in the red states think Trump is going to solve all of their problems? They already have Republican mayors, governors, state legislatures, congressmen and senators and yet, things are still bad for them. If they really want change, why not enact it on the local level? Why do they think Trump will change anything? I see no explanation for it beyond being brainwashed by Fox News and the Alt Right and not having the brain power to really think about their lot.

Garrison Keillor has said it best:

We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.

I will enjoy my tax cuts under Trump and if none of those people are better off in 4 years. Not my problem.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys make me feel so good about my decision not to vote for Hillary

What you're seeing here from Democrats is just the flip-side of what rural Trump voters have been saying.

The non-college, rural Trump voters say they feel ignored, left out, and taken advantage of by "liberal elite" Democrats. So they voted for Trump, because they think he'll help them by somehow throwing out foreign workers and bringing back blue-collar jobs.

But Clinton supporters don't see themselves as "liberal elites." We see ourselves as hard-working people looking out for the working class, and hoping to shield them from the bad activities of corporations and the upper class. We truly think Donald Trump is just snowing you with his promises, and he's really planning to work with the corporations and lobbyists to screw the working class even harder. For many of us who have college degrees, and live in urban areas with steady jobs, we are actually voting against our own economic self-interest by voting Democrat, because it probably raises our taxes to help protect the struggling rural non-college population.

We both see the same problems in America. Each party thinks it's the one that's really trying to help, and that the other party's solutions will make the problem worse. You think you're helping, and we think we're helping.

But when we Democrats see all the exact same people we're trying to help vote Trump, and when we hear them sneering and blaming us for their problem, it's frustrating. So you shouldn't be surprised if many of us are saying "Screw it. They don't want our help anyway. So let's just help ourselves and watch how badly those working class voters get screwed under Trump's policies. They can choke on the problems they created for themselves."

For me, it kind of feels like I tried to help my younger sibling deal with a substance abuse problem, by helping him look for a job, buying him food, and letting him sleep on my couch. And then I woke up on Wednesday morning, and discovered he's trashed all my stuff and set my apartment on fire. So I'm not feeling much love for helping him anymore.

God, you guys are condescending. Get off your high horse. No wonder your hypothetical younger sibling can't stand you.

Anonymous wrote:^PP here. And that's why we don't give a SH#T about non-educated whites, we are done caring for them.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys make me feel so good about my decision not to vote for Hillary

What you're seeing here from Democrats is just the flip-side of what rural Trump voters have been saying.

The non-college, rural Trump voters say they feel ignored, left out, and taken advantage of by "liberal elite" Democrats. So they voted for Trump, because they think he'll help them by somehow throwing out foreign workers and bringing back blue-collar jobs.

But Clinton supporters don't see themselves as "liberal elites." We see ourselves as hard-working people looking out for the working class, and hoping to shield them from the bad activities of corporations and the upper class. We truly think Donald Trump is just snowing you with his promises, and he's really planning to work with the corporations and lobbyists to screw the working class even harder. For many of us who have college degrees, and live in urban areas with steady jobs, we are actually voting against our own economic self-interest by voting Democrat, because it probably raises our taxes to help protect the struggling rural non-college population.

We both see the same problems in America. Each party thinks it's the one that's really trying to help, and that the other party's solutions will make the problem worse. You think you're helping, and we think we're helping.

But when we Democrats see all the exact same people we're trying to help vote Trump, and when we hear them sneering and blaming us for their problem, it's frustrating. So you shouldn't be surprised if many of us are saying "Screw it. They don't want our help anyway. So let's just help ourselves and watch how badly those working class voters get screwed under Trump's policies. They can choke on the problems they created for themselves."

For me, it kind of feels like I tried to help my younger sibling deal with a substance abuse problem, by helping him look for a job, buying him food, and letting him sleep on my couch. And then I woke up on Wednesday morning, and discovered he's trashed all my stuff and set my apartment on fire. So I'm not feeling much love for helping him anymore.

God, you guys are condescending. Get off your high horse. No wonder your hypothetical younger sibling can't stand you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: this mentality will guarantee that you never win another national election

You seriously believe that when Hillary won over Trump by 2Million votes. Hillary! Any other dem not named Clinton is a winner.

Also, you really think trump can actually make anything better for his voters? By cutting taxes? He has zero plan to bring jobs back from the machines that took them. He cant threaten companies to bring back jobs or threaten China(to whom he owes $650Million) to let jobs go back to America. His voters will FINALLY feel the con and desert the GOP in droves.

All a dem has to do in 2020 is point to the massive failure of scandal plagued Trump. This time they can't claim to drain the swamp because they are the swamp.