Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:35
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
I'm really shocked that some of you believe Lochte's story. He has already changed it since he first told it (no gun put to his head in second version, cab wasn't pulled over by fake cops in second version). When people tell multiple versions of the same event, that usually means they're lying.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:34
Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Poor Jack Conger, first he unfairly loses his spot in the relay final to Lochte, then he gets caught up in this mess in Rio while Lochte is safely back in the US.
How did Conger unfairly lose his spot to Lochte?
If pp is talking about the 800 free relay, he has no clue what he's talking about.
Former swimmer here and yes he unfairly lost his spot. More to Phelps though. Conger had the fastest time in the prelim and was slated to swim in the final but Phelps replaced him at the last minute. Guess who made the decision? Phelps coach Bob Bowman. Just a way to boost the medal count.
As a former swimmer, I'm sure you also realize that there are a lot of factors that go into the final decision on a relay line-up beyond splits in a trial or prelim. That Conger out-split Lochte in the prelims doesn't inherently mean that Lochte should have been bumped rather than Conger when they decided to put Phelps in.
Give me one good reason other than to boost the medal count. I know it's in the discretion of the coaches but I have not heard one good explanation for bumping Conger.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:30
Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Poor Jack Conger, first he unfairly loses his spot in the relay final to Lochte, then he gets caught up in this mess in Rio while Lochte is safely back in the US.
How did Conger unfairly lose his spot to Lochte?
If pp is talking about the 800 free relay, he has no clue what he's talking about.
Former swimmer here and yes he unfairly lost his spot. More to Phelps though. Conger had the fastest time in the prelim and was slated to swim in the final but Phelps replaced him at the last minute. Guess who made the decision? Phelps coach Bob Bowman. Just a way to boost the medal count.
As a former swimmer, I'm sure you also realize that there are a lot of factors that go into the final decision on a relay line-up beyond splits in a trial or prelim. That Conger out-split Lochte in the prelims doesn't inherently mean that Lochte should have been bumped rather than Conger when they decided to put Phelps in.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:22
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
He lied.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:21
Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Poor Jack Conger, first he unfairly loses his spot in the relay final to Lochte, then he gets caught up in this mess in Rio while Lochte is safely back in the US.
How did Conger unfairly lose his spot to Lochte?
If pp is talking about the 800 free relay, he has no clue what he's talking about.
Former swimmer here and yes he unfairly lost his spot. More to Phelps though. Conger had the fastest time in the prelim and was slated to swim in the final but Phelps replaced him at the last minute. Guess who made the decision? Phelps coach Bob Bowman. Just a way to boost the medal count.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:11
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was thinking drugs or hookers-- men lie about being robbed a lot in those scenarios (robbed in the act). The only thing about the hooker scenario is-- why bother? Women are in no shortage at Olympic village!
True - I don't think Lochte has to resort to paying for sex.
Drunk people do stupid things. Could be strippers with a happy ending, anything.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:07
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:
This is hearsay. We need to see the actual video...
That reporter seems to REALLY dislike Lochte...
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:07
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:I was thinking drugs or hookers-- men lie about being robbed a lot in those scenarios (robbed in the act). The only thing about the hooker scenario is-- why bother? Women are in no shortage at Olympic village!
True - I don't think Lochte has to resort to paying for sex.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:06
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:IMO false; or at least very exaggerated. The part about Lochte arguing with the robber when he had a gun to his forehead is absurd. I know Lochte is dumber than a sack of hammers, but that just doesn't seem reasonable.
Just a personal anecdote, I consider myself to be a rational person, but one night when my friend and I were walking after an evening that involved drinking, we were held up at gunpoint, and we didn't turn over our stuff, just had a discussion with the robbers. I'm embarrassed to say that we did argue. The individual with a gun was very young though, maybe 13, so I pray that we read the situation appropriately. But smart people do things that are dumb. I completely believe this story.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:05
Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Poor Jack Conger, first he unfairly loses his spot in the relay final to Lochte, then he gets caught up in this mess in Rio while Lochte is safely back in the US.
How did Conger unfairly lose his spot to Lochte?
If pp is talking about the 800 free relay, he has no clue what he's talking about.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:05
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is hearsay. We need to see the actual video...
+1. Also, yesterday they were claiming the video showed they were not at the gas station at all. Sounds like Brazil can't keep their story straight.
+2. I'll believe it when they release the video itself.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:02
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:FWIW Daily Mail is now saying they destroyed a gas station bathroom, the clerk asked them to pay, they refused and started to leave, at which point the clerk/a security guard pointed a gun at them demanding money, and then they paid and left. I could see how that in Lochte's mind was a robbery . . . .
Uh huh. The Daily Mail, where journalism = making stuff up.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:02
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:FWIW Daily Mail is now saying they destroyed a gas station bathroom, the clerk asked them to pay, they refused and started to leave, at which point the clerk/a security guard pointed a gun at them demanding money, and then they paid and left. I could see how that in Lochte's mind was a robbery . . . .
The daily mail is not a reputable source, at all. But even if that did happen (funny the gas station owner said he had never seen them) that only proves they were held at gunpoint.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:02
Subject: Re:Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't believe Brazil would escalate this situation like this. Taking US Olympians off a plane and detaining them in the country seems like a fairly big diplomatic incident to me. Their story sounds pretty plausible to me.
It's like they think that if they can prove this one incident false, that it wipes all the other ones, too. Unlivable apartments in the Olympic village with sewage running down the walls when too many toilets were flushed. All the press agencies having their expensive cameras stolen from INSIDE arenas, including one from a ceiling. Open water swimmers getting dysentery. Dead bodies on the volleyball beach. A kayaker crashing into an underwater SOFA (!!). Ignoramus crowds booing like every event is a soccer match, including during anthems and medal ceremonies. Arenas that are 20% full. A German coach being killed by a taxi going headfirst into a concrete wall. A giant camera falling on spectators from midair. Letting divers compete in an unchlorinated green pool and lying to them that the water is fine when it's really full of microbes and "organic compounds"--they are damned lucky that British synchro diver with asplenia hasn't gotten very sick. But nooooo, this one thing with the moron swimmers probably didn't happen, so that means the rest of it hasn't, either! All is well!
Yikes did all of that really happen? That's crazy.
Not PP, and I don't know if all of it is true, but Sally Jenkins detailed a lot of this in a recent Post column: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/rio-2016-organizers-are-confident-everything-is-fine-im-not-reassured/2016/08/15/6d51d7c2-62e8-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:57
Subject: Lochte Robbery Story: True or False
Anonymous wrote:I bet they were attempting to buy drugs or something and got held up. Why else would Lochte say that he didn't want to call the police because he didn't want to get in trouble? He is not exactly a bright kid, he says what he means.
I doubt it was drugs. They can still be tested after the Olympics. Prostitutes or something else, maybe, but I'd doubt drugs.