Anonymous
11/14/2015 12:49
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well that's just befuddling.
Why on earth would you say Merry Christmas to someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas?
This has nothing to do with being PC; rather, it's just commonsense and accuracy. Do you want people to wish you happy Kwanzaa? Or Happy Hanukah? Of course not. So perhaps aim for *accuracy* and only say Merry Christmas to Christians.
Candidly, I plan to wish glad tidings to you and your kin...I feel like it covers everyone.
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It's about accuracy.
Do you wish Happy Mothers Day to single, childless men? No. Then why say Merry Christmas to people who don't celebrate Christmas? It makes you look stupid...very, very stupid.
no offense but you sound like an utter moron.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 12:09
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:S/O question:
What is your office holiday party called?
We no longer call it a holiday party because that offends people who don't celebrate a holiday in December.
We call it an end of year celebration. And decorations aren't winter related at all...because the neutral snowflakes offended someone...who I suppose hates snow? Instead they pick a random theme...like mad hatter tea party...but the planning committee holds their breath each year in fear that whatever theme they choose might offend someone.
I have never heard of something like this. I'm finding it difficult to believe, actually. Who complains about snow flakes?!
I'm not sure who complained about the snowflakes, or if the higher ups just decided to err on the safe side by removing anything related to winter after a staffer stood up at an all staff meeting of 200 and complained after the ED announced that we were being given Christmas Eve off in addition to the regular Christmas holiday. Everyone cheered but one person who complained that we should be given a free day of our choosing since not everybody celebrates a winter holiday. Then she went into great detail about her atheism and how offended she feels by the winter holidays...all of them...including Hanukkah.
I promise you I'm not a troll. We went from having a festive secular holiday party with winter snowflakes to an annual end of year party with random themes that nobody except the small planning committee bother to embrace. Some people do show up in Christmas sweaters or ties or reindeer headbands...and I'm not sure if that's in protest.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 11:27
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Maybe Santa will give you a book detailing how not to be a pretentious ass and a discount card to a clinic to get that stick removed from your ass.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only in America could wishing someone "Merry Christmas" be considered insulting.
I am a liberal atheist and i hate the "happy holidays" generic bullshit. I love Christmas.
I am an atheist whom celebrates Christmas, but I also like and respect the other religious holidays of the season. I just love holidays and will typically wish you a happy holiday!
Perhaps Santa will still give you a book on English grammar emphasizing the use of objective pronouns.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 11:24
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Thank you. I acknowledge the important holidays of my friends of different faiths. We would all be better off if we took less offense and made an effort to acknowledge the beliefs of others and quit looking for reasons to get upset.Anonymous wrote:I'm Jewish and when someone says "Merry Christmas" I reply back, "Merry Christmas!". People are wishing you well. Would you rather someone say "Hope your winter break is particularly crappy and miserable!"
This country is seriously screwed.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 11:21
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:S/O question:
What is your office holiday party called?
We no longer call it a holiday party because that offends people who don't celebrate a holiday in December.
We call it an end of year celebration. And decorations aren't winter related at all...because the neutral snowflakes offended someone...who I suppose hates snow? Instead they pick a random theme...like mad hatter tea party...but the planning committee holds their breath each year in fear that whatever theme they choose might offend someone.
I have never heard of something like this. I'm finding it difficult to believe, actually. Who complains about snow flakes?!
Anonymous
11/14/2015 10:36
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Who tries to stop people from saying Merry Christmas?
Anonymous
11/14/2015 08:59
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wear a Christmas sweater, put small wreaths on all our cars, decorate our home to the nines, tip everyone who is kind everywhere I go, try to smile and be happy and cheerful and kind and let people in front of me if they are rushing, allow drivers to cut in front without losing it and yes do often say merry Christmas just to be kind and holiday minded not for any other reason.
If someone has a problem with that, they are just unhappy and looking for something to bitch about and I feel bad for them. Get over this nonsense and enjoy the beauty of this wonderful holiday!
I just said God Bless you to the pizza deliverer.
Why?
Because he brought me pizza on a cold night and was heading off into a cold dark evening. God Bless us, each and every one.
Jew here. Like how I feel about being wished "Merry Christmas," when someone says "God bless you," I say, "thank you!" It's not (necessarily) proselytizing, just someone offering a well wish.
Most of what I'm seeing on this thread are people who feel similarly to me about holiday wishes, so I don't see where the widespread argument is coming from. Except before Thanksgiving.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 08:58
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
S/O question:
What is your office holiday party called?
We no longer call it a holiday party because that offends people who don't celebrate a holiday in December.
We call it an end of year celebration. And decorations aren't winter related at all...because the neutral snowflakes offended someone...who I suppose hates snow? Instead they pick a random theme...like mad hatter tea party...but the planning committee holds their breath each year in fear that whatever theme they choose might offend someone.
What is your office holiday party called?
We no longer call it a holiday party because that offends people who don't celebrate a holiday in December.
We call it an end of year celebration. And decorations aren't winter related at all...because the neutral snowflakes offended someone...who I suppose hates snow? Instead they pick a random theme...like mad hatter tea party...but the planning committee holds their breath each year in fear that whatever theme they choose might offend someone.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 08:38
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Who on earth has ever attempted to stop someone from saying "merry Christmas?"
Anonymous
11/14/2015 07:51
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wear a Christmas sweater, put small wreaths on all our cars, decorate our home to the nines, tip everyone who is kind everywhere I go, try to smile and be happy and cheerful and kind and let people in front of me if they are rushing, allow drivers to cut in front without losing it and yes do often say merry Christmas just to be kind and holiday minded not for any other reason.
If someone has a problem with that, they are just unhappy and looking for something to bitch about and I feel bad for them. Get over this nonsense and enjoy the beauty of this wonderful holiday!
I just said God Bless you to the pizza deliverer.
Why?
Because he brought me pizza on a cold night and was heading off into a cold dark evening. God Bless us, each and every one.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 07:47
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only in America could wishing someone "Merry Christmas" be considered insulting.
I am a liberal atheist and i hate the "happy holidays" generic bullshit. I love Christmas.
I am an atheist whom celebrates Christmas, but I also like and respect the other religious holidays of the season. I just love holidays and will typically wish you a happy holiday!
Perhaps Santa will still give you a book on English grammar emphasizing the use of objective pronouns.
I think the PP's message reveals a kindness that the grammar police person lacks.
I'm another grammar police, and in the spirit of giving and Christmas, I'd like to explain to the (P)PP why she is misusing "whom" so that she doesn't ever do it again. (P)PP, "whom" is an object pronoun; "who" is a subject pronoun. In your sentence, you are attempting to represent "I" (the subject of the clause because it is the party doing the action in the main verb "celebrating"). You can't use an object pronoun to represent a subject, but you could correct this clause by using the appropriate subject pronoun ("who") to represent the subject of your clause ("I"). "I am an atheist WHO celebrates Christmas" is correct.
And I even have a typo in all of that, proving that even grammar police mess up. So you might not need a book on English grammar from Christmas, but I definitely need the gift of time.
But when to use "whom"?
"Whom" is an object pronoun. It should represent the direct or indirect object object. "I am an atheist WHO (represents subject "I") celebrates Christmas. I have found a person WHOM (represents direct object "person") I wish to help; she is the person to WHOM (indirect object of the verb) I give the gift of grammar."
So now you know! Merry Christmas from one atheist to another!
Anonymous
11/14/2015 07:45
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only in America could wishing someone "Merry Christmas" be considered insulting.
I am a liberal atheist and i hate the "happy holidays" generic bullshit. I love Christmas.
I am an atheist whom celebrates Christmas, but I also like and respect the other religious holidays of the season. I just love holidays and will typically wish you a happy holiday!
Perhaps Santa will still give you a book on English grammar emphasizing the use of objective pronouns.
I think the PP's message reveals a kindness that the grammar police person lacks.
I'm another grammar police, and in the spirit of giving and Christmas, I'd like to explain to the (P)PP why she is misusing "whom" so that she doesn't ever do it again. (P)PP, "whom" is an object pronoun; "who" is a subject pronoun. In your sentence, you are attempting to represent "I" (the subject of the clause because it is the party doing the action in the main verb "celebrating"). You can't use an object pronoun to represent a subject, but you could correct this clause by using the appropriate subject pronoun ("who") to represent the subject of your clause ("I"). "I am an atheist WHO celebrates Christmas" is correct.
But when to use "whom"?
"Whom" is an object pronoun. It should represent the direct or indirect object object. "I am an atheist WHO (represents subject "I") celebrates Christmas. I have found a person WHOM (represents direct object "person") I wish to help; she is the person to WHOM (indirect object of the verb) I give the gift of grammar."
So now you know! Merry Christmas from one atheist to another!
Anonymous
11/14/2015 07:25
Subject: Re:I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
I never say "happy holidays". I grew up (I'm 44) only saying Merry Christmas & I'll keep doing it. If someone is clearly Jewish i would wish them a happy Hanukkah but otherwise (after thanksgiving) every gets a Merry Christmas. It's a national holiday & most people have the day off, so they can benefit / enjoy it as a holiday whether or not they are celebrating the religious aspects. I do it out of a festive / seasonal mood. After Xmas, I wish "happy new year". The generic happy holidays drives me nuts. If I had the day off for any holiday in the world, even if I didn't celebrate it, I'd never be offended by someone offering me a good wish.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 07:18
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only in America could wishing someone "Merry Christmas" be considered insulting.
I am a liberal atheist and i hate the "happy holidays" generic bullshit. I love Christmas.
I am an atheist whom celebrates Christmas, but I also like and respect the other religious holidays of the season. I just love holidays and will typically wish you a happy holiday!
Perhaps Santa will still give you a book on English grammar emphasizing the use of objective pronouns.
I think the PP's message reveals a kindness that the grammar police person lacks.
Anonymous
11/14/2015 07:16
Subject: I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me
I'm Jewish and when someone says "Merry Christmas" I reply back, "Merry Christmas!". People are wishing you well. Would you rather someone say "Hope your winter break is particularly crappy and miserable!"
This country is seriously screwed.
This country is seriously screwed.