Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 18:16     Subject: 'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole dog & pony show for only $15k? A good uber driver can make that in a year just by driving weekend brunch hours (9am-1pm).


For 10 hours/week it isn't bad and it grows significantly as more people join


Oh really? I'd love to hear more about all this significant growing that's happening as more people join.

Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 18:15     Subject: 'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:What is suspicious is that these "independent consultants" working for Rodan and Fields, Advocare, Stella and Dot, etc, spend more time tying to recruit more consultants than actually selling products. Red flag IMHO.


With RF you do both. We sell a lot of product. My first year I only focused on that. Second year I'm starting to recruit.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 18:14     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:I ran my own design business for a few years, averaged 16 hours/week on evenings and weekends around my full-time job, and made $40K a year. I could raise rates every year because my clients liked me, came back, and referred me. I only stopped because I had kids and no longer had ANY free time

That's how you make money part-time. Not with MLMs.

PP who is advocating for them has obviously drunk the Kool-Aid!


I think that's great you could do that. Most people can't. I'm not advocating for all of them. I only know one myself and that's only one I'm advocating for.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 18:12     Subject: 'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:This whole dog & pony show for only $15k? A good uber driver can make that in a year just by driving weekend brunch hours (9am-1pm).


For 10 hours/week it isn't bad and it grows significantly as more people join
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 17:19     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
I ran my own design business for a few years, averaged 16 hours/week on evenings and weekends around my full-time job, and made $40K a year. I could raise rates every year because my clients liked me, came back, and referred me. I only stopped because I had kids and no longer had ANY free time

That's how you make money part-time. Not with MLMs.

PP who is advocating for them has obviously drunk the Kool-Aid!
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 17:13     Subject: 'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
What is suspicious is that these "independent consultants" working for Rodan and Fields, Advocare, Stella and Dot, etc, spend more time tying to recruit more consultants than actually selling products. Red flag IMHO.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 16:13     Subject: 'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Can we talk about high school graduate housewife doTerra sellers giving medical advice and telling people to inject their oils?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 16:03     Subject: 'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
This whole dog & pony show for only $15k? A good uber driver can make that in a year just by driving weekend brunch hours (9am-1pm).
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 15:56     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know a lady who was one of the top ten sellers for Stella & Dot a few years ago. This woman is gorgeous, bubby, worked her ass off, did parties every weekend, knew tons of people, etc. Definitely one of the few who you'd expect would be making the big bucks, and her FB statuses also gave that impression. She quit abruptly because apparently S&D changed the commission structure and screwed a lot of people at the top, including her. Another of my friends was considering signing up, so I asked the former rep what she thought about it. Former rep told me flat-out that no matter how hard you work at S&D, you will NEVER make more than $2-$3k per month. It's just not possible, given the commission structure and the amount of jewelry the reps have to buy, etc. Plus, the amount of hours she was putting in were absolutely insane. She probably did 2-3 shows every weekend, which is way more than most reps would ever be able to book. I don't know about anyone else, but if I needed an extra $2-3k per month, I'd work at Starbucks or something before I'd go into MLM, but whatever. I have no idea how much she netted overall, but I'm guessing it wasn't a particularly impressive figure.


There's no way you can make $2-3k per month at Starbucks, even if you worked there full-time.


Sure you can; I would be willing to bet shift supervisors and assistant store managers make quite a bit more than that around here. Baristas probably don't do too badly, either. I remember reading somewhere that the average f/t barista makes $22k/year and that's nationwide. I'm not saying it's enough to support a family, but if I needed extra money, it's certaily more steady, dependable work than having to shill to my friends and family all the time. Plus, with the friend I'm talking about, she EASILY put in 30 hours of work per week on the Stella & Dot crap in addition to her regular f/t job. It got worse the higher up she became, according to her, because the targets got shifted around all the time and that's what ultimately led her to leave.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 15:31     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Relevant:

Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 15:28     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
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Yes, you're absolutely right, but I mean actual net income. The woman who I'm directly under has a total team volume of over 500K every month. She's got almost 1,000 under her and you make a cut off everyone's sales. BC we write everything off dealing with business expenses, taxes haven't been too bad, but yes we are all paying our own taxes.


Fortunately, the tax on a business loss comes out to zero dollars.


After taxes and everything, I netted $15K last year. My initial $1K investment went a long way, I think.


How much time did it take and how many friends did you lose along the way?


One year, none.


Geez, talk about avoiding the question. Do you spring for Kool-Aid or cheap out with Flavor Aid?


How did I avoid it? She asked how long it took to get there? I said one year and I haven't lost any friends. I guess may be she meant how much of my time does it take? It takes about 10 hours/week
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 15:23     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
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Yes, you're absolutely right, but I mean actual net income. The woman who I'm directly under has a total team volume of over 500K every month. She's got almost 1,000 under her and you make a cut off everyone's sales. BC we write everything off dealing with business expenses, taxes haven't been too bad, but yes we are all paying our own taxes.


Fortunately, the tax on a business loss comes out to zero dollars.


After taxes and everything, I netted $15K last year. My initial $1K investment went a long way, I think.


How much time did it take and how many friends did you lose along the way?


One year, none.


Geez, talk about avoiding the question. Do you spring for Kool-Aid or cheap out with Flavor Aid?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 15:06     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:However, OP, everyone in your cult says these things. Glad you can pat yourself on the back that you are an exception.


If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you? I'm not patting myself on the back for anything, but I'm also not a crazy person like you are implying. Are there very overzealous and obnoxious consultants? yes, 100% and I can't stand them bc they give everyone a horrible rep. This happens in every large organization and company, especially in sales. I'm not the OP, btw. My whole point is that there are many normal people who are just like me who do this and don't act like what you are describing. This whole thread got derailed bc all of a sudden when I posted about my personal experience, which is the what the OP asked for, I got ripped a new one for things I don't do and don't say. I want people to know that it can be a very normal and fun way to make some extra cash without lying or coercing anyone into anything.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 14:57     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
However, OP, everyone in your cult says these things. Glad you can pat yourself on the back that you are an exception.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 14:54     Subject: Re:'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt
Anonymous wrote:I zero in on MLM because everyone is bugging the SHIT out of me (and trust me, all of their friends complaining behind their backs) to buy idiotic products because they are "miraculous" and "amazing"!!!!!!!


Please find one reference where I said anything about products being "amazing" or "miraculous". It's OTC skincare. I think it's good quality skincare and I use it, that's it. That's how I sell it. I don't say shit like "life changing opportunity" or that other BS, bc I perfectly well know that it isn't for most people. Def. for some like I said, but not for most. For most, it's extra cash, it's paying for nice trip or a car payment or daycare. I'm one of those people. All I said is that I am making a decent paycheck and using the products that I like. I am serious when I say I don't approach my friends about it whatsoever. Most of my customers come my FB posts and occasional events that I host. They often contact me and sometimes I don't even know who they are. I've not had any friends drop me bc I don't act like an asshole. Just like you, my FB feed is filled with this stuff. The difference is, I get that people are doing their job and I'm empathetic. I decline party invites and ignore posts that don't interest me, but I don't judge and shit all over them for doing it.