Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately. We all pick up the cost of obesity related illness via increased premiums. Your health neglect becomes our expense.
Yes, and we also pick up the expenses for your my co-worker's anxiety attacks, my thin husband's high blood pressure, and the cancer treatment that everyone is likely to need if they live long enough. And end-of-life care, which is astronomically expensive. That is the point of shared risk, and not everyone's health conditions are readily visible.
Shouting about a People magazine cover and being cruel to fat people is NOT going to bring health expenses down. It's just not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately. We all pick up the cost of obesity related illness via increased premiums. Your health neglect becomes our expense.
Yes, and we also pick up the expenses for your my co-worker's anxiety attacks, my thin husband's high blood pressure, and the cancer treatment that everyone is likely to need if they live long enough. And end-of-life care, which is astronomically expensive. That is the point of shared risk, and not everyone's health conditions are readily visible.
Shouting about a People magazine cover and being cruel to fat people is NOT going to bring health expenses down. It's just not.
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately. We all pick up the cost of obesity related illness via increased premiums. Your health neglect becomes our expense.
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately. We all pick up the cost of obesity related illness via increased premiums. Your health neglect becomes our expense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glorifying obesity - seriously? Does anyone actually think that one magazine with an obese person on the cover - among the thousands of magazines with thin people on the covers - is going to make people aspire to obesity? I promise it won't. It won't even make people think that "obesity is OK," although people should think that, actually.
Obesity is not a lifestyle or a behavior or a moral failure, it's a body size. With few exceptions (none that I know of), obese people have suffered for their weight, do not want to look as they do, and have lost weight with varying degrees of success. Yet public debate about obesity assumes that fat people spend all their time binge-eating, don't care about their health or are too stupid to know how to be healthy, and are happy with how they look. Psychological research on willpower shows that it's not actually the magic key to weight loss; fat people do not score lower on self-control. It's very, very complicated biologically. Yes, the calories in < calories out equation is technically correct (absent medical issues), but it's just not that easy 95% of the time. (95%, btw, is the long-term failure rate of attempts to lose weight.)
We all have our struggles and our flaws. Maybe yours is your weight. Maybe it's something else not so good for your health - smoking, drinking too much, abusing prescription meds, driving aggressively, starving yourself, being sexually promiscuous. Maybe it's something not health-related - spending too much money, gossiping, yelling too much, cheating on your spouse, trolling online, generally being a shitty human being.
Anyway, obesity is "OK." It's as OK as any human imperfection. And I don't think that only people who can "pass" for perfect based on physical appearance deserve to be seen in public or celebrated for their accomplishments. No one is obligated to attempt to meet anyone else's definition of beauty. No one is entitled to be shielded from seeing people they consider ugly.
And honestly, if you do believe that people become obese because they've actively chosen a binge-eating, no exercise "lifestyle," so what? It's a free country and I can choose that if I want to. You are certainly free to choose differently and to teach your children differently. Exposure to someone with different values will not change your kids' values, any more than seeing a magazine with the Pope on the cover will make them convert to Catholicism.
Yes! To the whole damn thing!
YES to this!!!
I am technically obese, but you would probably just call me overweight based on my appearance (BMI of 30.8). I have actively tried to lose weight and I am trying to lose weight right now. For the past 6 weeks, I have tracked every single piece of food that enters my mouth. I do not eat more than 1200 calories a day. I walk at least 20 minutes every day and do 30 minutes on the elliptical 1-2/week in addition.
I have lost a grand total of 3 lbs in those 6 weeks. My thyroid is normal. There is no medical reason why I cannot lose weight. I eat whole grains and very little processed food. I eat out very rarely. My metabolism just sucks.
And I don't need other people telling me that I should be unhappy with my body and that, by my mere existence, I am setting a bad example for other people.
Cut out carbs and all sugar.
Done it. Did South Beach diet religiously. Did not eat any refined sugar or as much as a piece of fruit for a month. Lost zero pounds. My doctor doesn't know why I can't lose weight. Neither does the nutritionist I worked with, to whom I provided detailed food diaries.
I am a smart, educated person. But people who look at me see someone who they assume just has no willpower.
It's not about what you eat. It's all about how much you eat. Portion control. It's not rocket science. It's willpower.
Did you miss the part about eating only 1200 calories a day? Everything I eat is measured. I know about portion control. It's not all about willpower when your metabolism slows down any time you reduce calories.
I'm sure I could lose weight if I actually ate nothing. But no medical professional is supportive of me eating less than 1200 calories per day due to concerns about worsening my metabolism any more in the long term.
Most people underestimate how much they eat. If you are fine being overweight just say so.
I'm not fine being overweight. I keep trying to lose weight. I keep going to different medical professionals. I just get frustrated when people assume that fat people are fat because they are lazy and don't know how to eat (the right amount of) healthy food.
You don't need a professional to tell you to eat less. You are looking for a professional to tell you it's not your fault that is hard to lose weight. It is hard to lose weight. Eating less is hard when you are used to eating more. Stop looking for someone to justify your eating. Eat less.
Anonymous wrote:I have the magazine.
Yes, they are glorifying obesity, but what can you expect more and more Americans are. Obesity will be the next thing shoved down our throats for blind acceptance.
She can't be a size 22, I googled size 22 no way. So they are sugar coating all of it. (No pun)
She isn't healthy no one can argue that.
HTF does she do everyday basic human functions comfortably?
Pathetic, I feel pity for her. Obesity should no be encouraged.
Anonymous wrote:
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glorifying obesity - seriously? Does anyone actually think that one magazine with an obese person on the cover - among the thousands of magazines with thin people on the covers - is going to make people aspire to obesity? I promise it won't. It won't even make people think that "obesity is OK," although people should think that, actually.
Obesity is not a lifestyle or a behavior or a moral failure, it's a body size. With few exceptions (none that I know of), obese people have suffered for their weight, do not want to look as they do, and have lost weight with varying degrees of success. Yet public debate about obesity assumes that fat people spend all their time binge-eating, don't care about their health or are too stupid to know how to be healthy, and are happy with how they look. Psychological research on willpower shows that it's not actually the magic key to weight loss; fat people do not score lower on self-control. It's very, very complicated biologically. Yes, the calories in < calories out equation is technically correct (absent medical issues), but it's just not that easy 95% of the time. (95%, btw, is the long-term failure rate of attempts to lose weight.)
We all have our struggles and our flaws. Maybe yours is your weight. Maybe it's something else not so good for your health - smoking, drinking too much, abusing prescription meds, driving aggressively, starving yourself, being sexually promiscuous. Maybe it's something not health-related - spending too much money, gossiping, yelling too much, cheating on your spouse, trolling online, generally being a shitty human being.
Anyway, obesity is "OK." It's as OK as any human imperfection. And I don't think that only people who can "pass" for perfect based on physical appearance deserve to be seen in public or celebrated for their accomplishments. No one is obligated to attempt to meet anyone else's definition of beauty. No one is entitled to be shielded from seeing people they consider ugly.
And honestly, if you do believe that people become obese because they've actively chosen a binge-eating, no exercise "lifestyle," so what? It's a free country and I can choose that if I want to. You are certainly free to choose differently and to teach your children differently. Exposure to someone with different values will not change your kids' values, any more than seeing a magazine with the Pope on the cover will make them convert to Catholicism.
Yes! To the whole damn thing!
YES to this!!!
I am technically obese, but you would probably just call me overweight based on my appearance (BMI of 30.8). I have actively tried to lose weight and I am trying to lose weight right now. For the past 6 weeks, I have tracked every single piece of food that enters my mouth. I do not eat more than 1200 calories a day. I walk at least 20 minutes every day and do 30 minutes on the elliptical 1-2/week in addition.
I have lost a grand total of 3 lbs in those 6 weeks. My thyroid is normal. There is no medical reason why I cannot lose weight. I eat whole grains and very little processed food. I eat out very rarely. My metabolism just sucks.
And I don't need other people telling me that I should be unhappy with my body and that, by my mere existence, I am setting a bad example for other people.
Cut out carbs and all sugar.
Done it. Did South Beach diet religiously. Did not eat any refined sugar or as much as a piece of fruit for a month. Lost zero pounds. My doctor doesn't know why I can't lose weight. Neither does the nutritionist I worked with, to whom I provided detailed food diaries.
I am a smart, educated person. But people who look at me see someone who they assume just has no willpower.
It's not about what you eat. It's all about how much you eat. Portion control. It's not rocket science. It's willpower.
Did you miss the part about eating only 1200 calories a day? Everything I eat is measured. I know about portion control. It's not all about willpower when your metabolism slows down any time you reduce calories.
I'm sure I could lose weight if I actually ate nothing. But no medical professional is supportive of me eating less than 1200 calories per day due to concerns about worsening my metabolism any more in the long term.
Most people underestimate how much they eat. If you are fine being overweight just say so.
I'm not fine being overweight. I keep trying to lose weight. I keep going to different medical professionals. I just get frustrated when people assume that fat people are fat because they are lazy and don't know how to eat (the right amount of) healthy food.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glorifying obesity - seriously? Does anyone actually think that one magazine with an obese person on the cover - among the thousands of magazines with thin people on the covers - is going to make people aspire to obesity? I promise it won't. It won't even make people think that "obesity is OK," although people should think that, actually.
Obesity is not a lifestyle or a behavior or a moral failure, it's a body size. With few exceptions (none that I know of), obese people have suffered for their weight, do not want to look as they do, and have lost weight with varying degrees of success. Yet public debate about obesity assumes that fat people spend all their time binge-eating, don't care about their health or are too stupid to know how to be healthy, and are happy with how they look. Psychological research on willpower shows that it's not actually the magic key to weight loss; fat people do not score lower on self-control. It's very, very complicated biologically. Yes, the calories in < calories out equation is technically correct (absent medical issues), but it's just not that easy 95% of the time. (95%, btw, is the long-term failure rate of attempts to lose weight.)
We all have our struggles and our flaws. Maybe yours is your weight. Maybe it's something else not so good for your health - smoking, drinking too much, abusing prescription meds, driving aggressively, starving yourself, being sexually promiscuous. Maybe it's something not health-related - spending too much money, gossiping, yelling too much, cheating on your spouse, trolling online, generally being a shitty human being.
Anyway, obesity is "OK." It's as OK as any human imperfection. And I don't think that only people who can "pass" for perfect based on physical appearance deserve to be seen in public or celebrated for their accomplishments. No one is obligated to attempt to meet anyone else's definition of beauty. No one is entitled to be shielded from seeing people they consider ugly.
And honestly, if you do believe that people become obese because they've actively chosen a binge-eating, no exercise "lifestyle," so what? It's a free country and I can choose that if I want to. You are certainly free to choose differently and to teach your children differently. Exposure to someone with different values will not change your kids' values, any more than seeing a magazine with the Pope on the cover will make them convert to Catholicism.
Yes! To the whole damn thing!
YES to this!!!
I am technically obese, but you would probably just call me overweight based on my appearance (BMI of 30.8). I have actively tried to lose weight and I am trying to lose weight right now. For the past 6 weeks, I have tracked every single piece of food that enters my mouth. I do not eat more than 1200 calories a day. I walk at least 20 minutes every day and do 30 minutes on the elliptical 1-2/week in addition.
I have lost a grand total of 3 lbs in those 6 weeks. My thyroid is normal. There is no medical reason why I cannot lose weight. I eat whole grains and very little processed food. I eat out very rarely. My metabolism just sucks.
And I don't need other people telling me that I should be unhappy with my body and that, by my mere existence, I am setting a bad example for other people.
Cut out carbs and all sugar.
Done it. Did South Beach diet religiously. Did not eat any refined sugar or as much as a piece of fruit for a month. Lost zero pounds. My doctor doesn't know why I can't lose weight. Neither does the nutritionist I worked with, to whom I provided detailed food diaries.
I am a smart, educated person. But people who look at me see someone who they assume just has no willpower.
It's not about what you eat. It's all about how much you eat. Portion control. It's not rocket science. It's willpower.
Did you miss the part about eating only 1200 calories a day? Everything I eat is measured. I know about portion control. It's not all about willpower when your metabolism slows down any time you reduce calories.
I'm sure I could lose weight if I actually ate nothing. But no medical professional is supportive of me eating less than 1200 calories per day due to concerns about worsening my metabolism any more in the long term.
Most people underestimate how much they eat. If you are fine being overweight just say so.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glorifying obesity - seriously? Does anyone actually think that one magazine with an obese person on the cover - among the thousands of magazines with thin people on the covers - is going to make people aspire to obesity? I promise it won't. It won't even make people think that "obesity is OK," although people should think that, actually.
Obesity is not a lifestyle or a behavior or a moral failure, it's a body size. With few exceptions (none that I know of), obese people have suffered for their weight, do not want to look as they do, and have lost weight with varying degrees of success. Yet public debate about obesity assumes that fat people spend all their time binge-eating, don't care about their health or are too stupid to know how to be healthy, and are happy with how they look. Psychological research on willpower shows that it's not actually the magic key to weight loss; fat people do not score lower on self-control. It's very, very complicated biologically. Yes, the calories in < calories out equation is technically correct (absent medical issues), but it's just not that easy 95% of the time. (95%, btw, is the long-term failure rate of attempts to lose weight.)
We all have our struggles and our flaws. Maybe yours is your weight. Maybe it's something else not so good for your health - smoking, drinking too much, abusing prescription meds, driving aggressively, starving yourself, being sexually promiscuous. Maybe it's something not health-related - spending too much money, gossiping, yelling too much, cheating on your spouse, trolling online, generally being a shitty human being.
Anyway, obesity is "OK." It's as OK as any human imperfection. And I don't think that only people who can "pass" for perfect based on physical appearance deserve to be seen in public or celebrated for their accomplishments. No one is obligated to attempt to meet anyone else's definition of beauty. No one is entitled to be shielded from seeing people they consider ugly.
And honestly, if you do believe that people become obese because they've actively chosen a binge-eating, no exercise "lifestyle," so what? It's a free country and I can choose that if I want to. You are certainly free to choose differently and to teach your children differently. Exposure to someone with different values will not change your kids' values, any more than seeing a magazine with the Pope on the cover will make them convert to Catholicism.
Yes! To the whole damn thing!
YES to this!!!
I am technically obese, but you would probably just call me overweight based on my appearance (BMI of 30.8). I have actively tried to lose weight and I am trying to lose weight right now. For the past 6 weeks, I have tracked every single piece of food that enters my mouth. I do not eat more than 1200 calories a day. I walk at least 20 minutes every day and do 30 minutes on the elliptical 1-2/week in addition.
I have lost a grand total of 3 lbs in those 6 weeks. My thyroid is normal. There is no medical reason why I cannot lose weight. I eat whole grains and very little processed food. I eat out very rarely. My metabolism just sucks.
And I don't need other people telling me that I should be unhappy with my body and that, by my mere existence, I am setting a bad example for other people.
Cut out carbs and all sugar.
Done it. Did South Beach diet religiously. Did not eat any refined sugar or as much as a piece of fruit for a month. Lost zero pounds. My doctor doesn't know why I can't lose weight. Neither does the nutritionist I worked with, to whom I provided detailed food diaries.
I am a smart, educated person. But people who look at me see someone who they assume just has no willpower.
It's not about what you eat. It's all about how much you eat. Portion control. It's not rocket science. It's willpower.
Did you miss the part about eating only 1200 calories a day? Everything I eat is measured. I know about portion control. It's not all about willpower when your metabolism slows down any time you reduce calories.
I'm sure I could lose weight if I actually ate nothing. But no medical professional is supportive of me eating less than 1200 calories per day due to concerns about worsening my metabolism any more in the long term.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glorifying obesity - seriously? Does anyone actually think that one magazine with an obese person on the cover - among the thousands of magazines with thin people on the covers - is going to make people aspire to obesity? I promise it won't. It won't even make people think that "obesity is OK," although people should think that, actually.
Obesity is not a lifestyle or a behavior or a moral failure, it's a body size. With few exceptions (none that I know of), obese people have suffered for their weight, do not want to look as they do, and have lost weight with varying degrees of success. Yet public debate about obesity assumes that fat people spend all their time binge-eating, don't care about their health or are too stupid to know how to be healthy, and are happy with how they look. Psychological research on willpower shows that it's not actually the magic key to weight loss; fat people do not score lower on self-control. It's very, very complicated biologically. Yes, the calories in < calories out equation is technically correct (absent medical issues), but it's just not that easy 95% of the time. (95%, btw, is the long-term failure rate of attempts to lose weight.)
We all have our struggles and our flaws. Maybe yours is your weight. Maybe it's something else not so good for your health - smoking, drinking too much, abusing prescription meds, driving aggressively, starving yourself, being sexually promiscuous. Maybe it's something not health-related - spending too much money, gossiping, yelling too much, cheating on your spouse, trolling online, generally being a shitty human being.
Anyway, obesity is "OK." It's as OK as any human imperfection. And I don't think that only people who can "pass" for perfect based on physical appearance deserve to be seen in public or celebrated for their accomplishments. No one is obligated to attempt to meet anyone else's definition of beauty. No one is entitled to be shielded from seeing people they consider ugly.
And honestly, if you do believe that people become obese because they've actively chosen a binge-eating, no exercise "lifestyle," so what? It's a free country and I can choose that if I want to. You are certainly free to choose differently and to teach your children differently. Exposure to someone with different values will not change your kids' values, any more than seeing a magazine with the Pope on the cover will make them convert to Catholicism.
Yes! To the whole damn thing!
YES to this!!!
I am technically obese, but you would probably just call me overweight based on my appearance (BMI of 30.8). I have actively tried to lose weight and I am trying to lose weight right now. For the past 6 weeks, I have tracked every single piece of food that enters my mouth. I do not eat more than 1200 calories a day. I walk at least 20 minutes every day and do 30 minutes on the elliptical 1-2/week in addition.
I have lost a grand total of 3 lbs in those 6 weeks. My thyroid is normal. There is no medical reason why I cannot lose weight. I eat whole grains and very little processed food. I eat out very rarely. My metabolism just sucks.
And I don't need other people telling me that I should be unhappy with my body and that, by my mere existence, I am setting a bad example for other people.
Cut out carbs and all sugar.
Done it. Did South Beach diet religiously. Did not eat any refined sugar or as much as a piece of fruit for a month. Lost zero pounds. My doctor doesn't know why I can't lose weight. Neither does the nutritionist I worked with, to whom I provided detailed food diaries.
I am a smart, educated person. But people who look at me see someone who they assume just has no willpower.
It's not about what you eat. It's all about how much you eat. Portion control. It's not rocket science. It's willpower.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Glorifying obesity - seriously? Does anyone actually think that one magazine with an obese person on the cover - among the thousands of magazines with thin people on the covers - is going to make people aspire to obesity? I promise it won't. It won't even make people think that "obesity is OK," although people should think that, actually.
Obesity is not a lifestyle or a behavior or a moral failure, it's a body size. With few exceptions (none that I know of), obese people have suffered for their weight, do not want to look as they do, and have lost weight with varying degrees of success. Yet public debate about obesity assumes that fat people spend all their time binge-eating, don't care about their health or are too stupid to know how to be healthy, and are happy with how they look. Psychological research on willpower shows that it's not actually the magic key to weight loss; fat people do not score lower on self-control. It's very, very complicated biologically. Yes, the calories in < calories out equation is technically correct (absent medical issues), but it's just not that easy 95% of the time. (95%, btw, is the long-term failure rate of attempts to lose weight.)
We all have our struggles and our flaws. Maybe yours is your weight. Maybe it's something else not so good for your health - smoking, drinking too much, abusing prescription meds, driving aggressively, starving yourself, being sexually promiscuous. Maybe it's something not health-related - spending too much money, gossiping, yelling too much, cheating on your spouse, trolling online, generally being a shitty human being.
Anyway, obesity is "OK." It's as OK as any human imperfection. And I don't think that only people who can "pass" for perfect based on physical appearance deserve to be seen in public or celebrated for their accomplishments. No one is obligated to attempt to meet anyone else's definition of beauty. No one is entitled to be shielded from seeing people they consider ugly.
And honestly, if you do believe that people become obese because they've actively chosen a binge-eating, no exercise "lifestyle," so what? It's a free country and I can choose that if I want to. You are certainly free to choose differently and to teach your children differently. Exposure to someone with different values will not change your kids' values, any more than seeing a magazine with the Pope on the cover will make them convert to Catholicism.
Yes! To the whole damn thing!
YES to this!!!
I am technically obese, but you would probably just call me overweight based on my appearance (BMI of 30.8). I have actively tried to lose weight and I am trying to lose weight right now. For the past 6 weeks, I have tracked every single piece of food that enters my mouth. I do not eat more than 1200 calories a day. I walk at least 20 minutes every day and do 30 minutes on the elliptical 1-2/week in addition.
I have lost a grand total of 3 lbs in those 6 weeks. My thyroid is normal. There is no medical reason why I cannot lose weight. I eat whole grains and very little processed food. I eat out very rarely. My metabolism just sucks.
And I don't need other people telling me that I should be unhappy with my body and that, by my mere existence, I am setting a bad example for other people.
Cut out carbs and all sugar.
Done it. Did South Beach diet religiously. Did not eat any refined sugar or as much as a piece of fruit for a month. Lost zero pounds. My doctor doesn't know why I can't lose weight. Neither does the nutritionist I worked with, to whom I provided detailed food diaries.
I am a smart, educated person. But people who look at me see someone who they assume just has no willpower.
It's not about what you eat. It's all about how much you eat. Portion control. It's not rocket science. It's willpower.