Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 21:25     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


"Descendants of native Washingtonians?" Like Powhatan or Algonquian?


Gentrification has squeezed a lot of multi-generational Washingtonians out of their homes. Even parts of Ward 7&8 are not affordable for many low-income families. After reading Ta-Nehisi Coates' "The Case for Reparations", perhaps we owe these kids this education. Read the story. These discussion have lots of racial overtones to them and bear a resemblance to debates about housing restrictions and school desegregation in previous eras.


No one is forcing these multigenerational families to move. They're happy to cash those checks and take their 4000 sq feet out in MD, so don't cry me a river about the natives being forced to do anything. You make the decision - you live with it. Don't act like I'm a bitter shrew because I want DC seats to go to DC kids.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 20:48     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:I'm so sorry that now that kid won't have an education. Oh wait, THEY CAN GO TO THEIR OWN SCHOOLS IN PGC!

I am glad OSSE made an example out of them!


The problem is that PG cut the funding for public schools. Ex-county exec Jack Johnson and his Councilmember wife stole all the money and even hid some in her brassiere!
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 20:46     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Also a sizable portion at least at my kid's school are African or West Indian descended. Does the US owe them reparations?


One thing is for sure, the taxpayers of DC don't owe the, reparations if they live in Maryland.

As for "reparations" more generally, arguably they were already paid -- with the blood of Union soldiers.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 20:44     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


"Descendants of native Washingtonians?" Like Powhatan or Algonquian?


Gentrification has squeezed a lot of multi-generational Washingtonians out of their homes. Even parts of Ward 7&8 are not affordable for many low-income families. After reading Ta-Nehisi Coates' "The Case for Reparations", perhaps we owe these kids this education. Read the story. These discussion have lots of racial overtones to them and bear a resemblance to debates about housing restrictions and school desegregation in previous eras.


So, based on your analysis, it is justifiable "reparations" that some family residing in PG County is able to scam its kids into DCPS, thereby depriving some poor kid who actually resides in Washington a slot at a decently performing school? Sorry, but I find the logic baffling.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 19:51     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


"Descendants of native Washingtonians?" Like Powhatan or Algonquian?


Gentrification has squeezed a lot of multi-generational Washingtonians out of their homes. Even parts of Ward 7&8 are not affordable for many low-income families. After reading Ta-Nehisi Coates' "The Case for Reparations", perhaps we owe these kids this education. Read the story. These discussion have lots of racial overtones to them and bear a resemblance to debates about housing restrictions and school desegregation in previous eras.


No one is arguing that these kids don't deserve a good education. However, a good education is available to them in the jurisdiction where they legally live. We have organized our school system in this country to align with municipal boundaries. It is in no way unfair to expect and demand that people act according to the law.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 19:49     Subject: residency cheater
Also a sizable portion at least at my kid's school are African or West Indian descended. Does the US owe them reparations?
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 19:42     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


"Descendants of native Washingtonians?" Like Powhatan or Algonquian?


Gentrification has squeezed a lot of multi-generational Washingtonians out of their homes. Even parts of Ward 7&8 are not affordable for many low-income families. After reading Ta-Nehisi Coates' "The Case for Reparations", perhaps we owe these kids this education. Read the story. These discussion have lots of racial overtones to them and bear a resemblance to debates about housing restrictions and school desegregation in previous eras.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 19:36     Subject: residency cheater
I'm so sorry that now that kid won't have an education. Oh wait, THEY CAN GO TO THEIR OWN SCHOOLS IN PGC!

I am glad OSSE made an example out of them!
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 19:31     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


+1


That may be the case, but the vast vast majority of people who are cheating the system don't fall within that description. And if they do, they likely still have one parent or guardian who has proof of residency in DC. So if they're in and out of grandma's house in PG county, they probably still have either mom or dad in the district who can show a DC pay stub -- even if they don't spend much time at their parents'. I also suspect that if OSSE was investigating a case where a kid was literally semi-homeless and their DC-based parents had recently deserted them such that their living situation was tenuous, but that they had initially provided sufficient proof of DC residence, that OSSE would likely take a soft position on that one extreme case.


OSSE didn't take it easy when that exact scenario played out with PG grandma. Then again, she was also a principal at said DC school where her grandkid went to school where she worked. In that case, mon actually lived in DC but because kid stayed with grandma in PG, OSSE made a great example of them. The sad part (and I'm all for reporting cheaters but this case seemed like an appropriate exception) is said school did not have a waitlist (at the time) and was a school nobody wanted to go to.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 19:28     Subject: residency cheater
If we're going to take it on the chin we'd rather it be for DC FARMS. Let PG take care of their own.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 18:44     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:^ only because they thinks it's their job to ruin a deserving DC resident child's life. We have enough poor DC RESIDENTS to stick our necks out for PG cheaters. If the fam were residents at DC General and were lying we'd probably support that. But, I have no sympathy for an out-of-Countian. Let them carpet bag on our limited resources somewhere else.


You would only support this as long as they were not attending your children's school. It's impossible to count the multitude of posts on DCUM lamenting the FARMS numbers in their in bound schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 18:38     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


"Descendants of native Washingtonians?" Like Powhatan or Algonquian?
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 17:29     Subject: residency cheater
^ only because they thinks it's their job to ruin a deserving DC resident child's life. We have enough poor DC RESIDENTS to stick our necks out for PG cheaters. If the fam were residents at DC General and were lying we'd probably support that. But, I have no sympathy for an out-of-Countian. Let them carpet bag on our limited resources somewhere else.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 17:22     Subject: Re:residency cheater
Yes, they do, but some uptight yoga mom thinks it's her duty to ruin their.lives.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2015 17:02     Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.


+1


That may be the case, but the vast vast majority of people who are cheating the system don't fall within that description. And if they do, they likely still have one parent or guardian who has proof of residency in DC. So if they're in and out of grandma's house in PG county, they probably still have either mom or dad in the district who can show a DC pay stub -- even if they don't spend much time at their parents'. I also suspect that if OSSE was investigating a case where a kid was literally semi-homeless and their DC-based parents had recently deserted them such that their living situation was tenuous, but that they had initially provided sufficient proof of DC residence, that OSSE would likely take a soft position on that one extreme case.


homeless kids / families that are doubling up (staying with another family b/c they are homeless) have rights to continue to attend whatever the original school is they were attending.