Anonymous wrote:The math section was very time pressured so the child who did very well on MAP-M might have not done as well on the quantitative section because he didn't have time to complete.

How did it compare to his or her Inview quantitative score?

He did say he had 10 questions unfinished -- yes time. His InView test (2nd grade) were pretty good

Analoges 92, Sequencing 99 Quantitative Reasoning 95.

The math section was very time pressured so the child who did very well on MAP-M might have not done as well on the quantitative section because he didn't have time to complete.

How did it compare to his or her Inview quantitative score?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

But you do know that the median they are talking about is the median score of kids accepted to the center, right? Not the median of all kids who took the test. Your kid can be way above average and still below the median of the kids accepted to the center.

Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

She may have just had an off day, gotten to that section last and was tired or just unfamiliar with the format so made a few more mistakes. With those scores she is still above average even in this area

Did they give the test in the order that it's reported -- verbal; quantitative; nonverbal? My kids scores fell off significantly with each, which is weird because she is super good at puzzles, patterns and things like that, so I really thought the nonverbal would be her area of strength. We never did any prep, so maybe it was lack of familiarity (I had no idea people did prep!). But if the issue is that she doesn't have the stamina to get through the test, I'd really like to know that.

I'm the initial posted you quoted and this would be interesting to know. My DD was the opposite of yours and her scores got better with each section. It was verbal she did really poorly on (she reads all the time though and reads 2 grade levels above. Her Map-R scores were pretty good too when she took that test). Quantitate was a little better but still lower than expected and Non-verbal is the section where she scored 5 below the median.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

But you do know that the median they are talking about is the median score of kids accepted to the center, right? Not the median of all kids who took the test. Your kid can be way above average and still below the median of the kids accepted to the center.

Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

She may have just had an off day, gotten to that section last and was tired or just unfamiliar with the format so made a few more mistakes. With those scores she is still above average even in this area

Did they give the test in the order that it's reported -- verbal; quantitative; nonverbal? My kids scores fell off significantly with each, which is weird because she is super good at puzzles, patterns and things like that, so I really thought the nonverbal would be her area of strength. We never did any prep, so maybe it was lack of familiarity (I had no idea people did prep!). But if the issue is that she doesn't have the stamina to get through the test, I'd really like to know that.

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Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

Some people have a talent for standardized tests, and some people have an untalent for them.

Good to know there are kids with disabilities attending the HGCs and that they need to provide accommodations. I wasn't sure if they would try to stick them in the GTLD program (which from my observation seems to have a much more Special Ed focus than on Gifted Ed).

I was saying that it just seemed from this and other threads on DCUM about HGCs that the student population seems to be exclusively from within MCPS (at least these are the posters). Since there are NO other gifted programs or schools in MoCo (besides one small private school called Feynman), I can see why there are plenty applying from private schools and homeschools. There are boatloads of highly gifted+ kids and 2E kids being homeschooled or sent to Montessori and other alternative schools due their needs not being met in the regular ed public schools--and FINALLY in 4th grade MCPS offer a program (because you know they were not gifted and in need of special services before 4th grade )!.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

But you do know that the median they are talking about is the median score of kids accepted to the center, right? Not the median of all kids who took the test. Your kid can be way above average and still below the median of the kids accepted to the center.

Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

She might have fill out answers in wrong places.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

But you do know that the median they are talking about is the median score of kids accepted to the center, right? Not the median of all kids who took the test. Your kid can be way above average and still below the median of the kids accepted to the center.

Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

She may have just had an off day, gotten to that section last and was tired or just unfamiliar with the format so made a few more mistakes. With those scores she is still above average even in this area

Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

Mine did last fall MAP-M well scored at 244 but did poorly at quantitative scored only at 126. So it is really not related to the class room work. Keep faith on your child as I do, as they grow up, they will face a lot more challenges

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

But you do know that the median they are talking about is the median score of kids accepted to the center, right? Not the median of all kids who took the test. Your kid can be way above average and still below the median of the kids accepted to the center.

Yes, I knew that. Based on her classroom work I was expecting her to be a little bit closer to the median. One of the tests, she was 5 points below the median. Another of the tests, she was about 37 points below the median. Based on her work in the classroom in that subject, I was shocked she was *that* far off of the median of the hgc kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

But you do know that the median they are talking about is the median score of kids accepted to the center, right? Not the median of all kids who took the test. Your kid can be way above average and still below the median of the kids accepted to the center.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if theres a way of getting more data about what your kid got right/wrong? I don't actually care about her going to the school, but I am concerned that the scores don't reflect what her teachers have always said about her performance. I'm worried there's something going on other than just disappointing scores, and would like more data.

I could have written this post. Comparing my dd's scores with some other people , I'm surprised how much lower they are than other people and how far from the median. I never expected her to get in but I also didn't expect her to be this far from the median either based on her classroom work.

Granted, she said she didn't finish the test so I would like to know how many questions she did answer and the percentage of those she got correct. Was she just bad at time management (we did no prep) or are there other issues?

DS has a 504 plan in HGC and I know he isn't the only one in his class who does.

My child is at Oak View. In the 5th grade they added two students from the wait pool who attended Oak View already (as their home school). There are also students (who didn't necessarily have Oak View as their home school) who were admitted before the start of 4th grade.

My DC is in the wait pool. The HGC is at our home school and we have known older children in the program, so the facilities, teachers, administration, etc. are familiar to us. Still, I think it would be helpful to be able to attend the open house, but there is no mention of it in the letter for a wait listed child. Does anyone know whether it is possible to attend if you did not get a straight acceptance?

Also, any insights on the likelihood (which I think is slim) of a spot opening for the kids in the wait pool would be good to hear. Pine Crest HGC.