Anonymous wrote:

Secret? Here are the standards:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Nothing secret about them.

How much do you know about your state's standards before the Common Core?

LOL! I know where to find the standards. What I don't know is why they are good. Who was in control of them (selected the committees). Or what research was used to support them. Don't know who vetted them either.

Are those the criteria you use to decide whether they are good?

Who was in control of your state's standards before the Common Core? What research was used to support them? Who vetted them? Do you know? When your state adopted those standards, did you ask those same questions you're asking about the Common Core standards?

Secret? Here are the standards:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Nothing secret about them.

How much do you know about your state's standards before the Common Core?

LOL! I know where to find the standards. What I don't know is why they are good. Who was in control of them (selected the committees). Or what research was used to support them. Don't know who vetted them either.

Anonymous wrote:

OK, maybe they weren't the best. In that case, the Common Core standards are based on bad existing state standards. That's not an argument for the Common Core standards, but it's certainly also not an argument for the state standards the Common Core standards replaced.

We do not even know who selected these committees or the criteria used to select the members. I find that troubling that people want to support something so secret.

Secret? Here are the standards:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Nothing secret about them.

How much do you know about your state's standards before the Common Core?

OK, maybe they weren't the best. In that case, the Common Core standards are based on bad existing state standards. That's not an argument for the Common Core standards, but it's certainly also not an argument for the state standards the Common Core standards replaced.

We do not even know who selected these committees or the criteria used to select the members. I find that troubling that people want to support something so secret.

Anonymous wrote:from CC website:


The standards are informed by:
•The best state standards already in existence
•The experience of teachers, content experts, states, and leading thinkers
•Feedback from the public

Which state standards. How do we know they were the best?

OK, maybe they weren't the best. In that case, the Common Core standards are based on bad existing state standards. That's not an argument for the Common Core standards, but it's certainly also not an argument for the state standards the Common Core standards replaced.

The standards are informed by:
•The best state standards already in existence
•The experience of teachers, content experts, states, and leading thinkers
•Feedback from the public

Feedback from public?

Two or three pages of summary which --if you actually read it--includes quite a bit of criticism.

The standards are informed by:
•The best state standards already in existence
•The experience of teachers, content experts, states, and leading thinkers
•Feedback from the public

Teacher's experience? There were no teachers on development committee. "Leading thinkers"? who chose them? How were they selected?

from CC website:


The standards are informed by:
•The best state standards already in existence
•The experience of teachers, content experts, states, and leading thinkers
•Feedback from the public

Which state standards. How do we know they were the best?

Anonymous wrote:

Fine, but what exactly do you want documentation for?

We don't even know what actual research went into the development of the standards.

What state do you live in? Did your state adopt the Common Core standards? If so, did your state previously have standards? If not, does your state have standards now? Do you know what actual research went into the development of those standards?

Anonymous wrote:

Fine, but what exactly do you want documentation for?

On what basis they wrote the standards. They do not provide any data.

How about this article? It seems pretty clear to me from this article that the Common Core math standards weren't just randomly made up by some random people who randomly make stuff up.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/ed/2014/12/29/371918272/the-man-behind-common-core-math

Fine, but what exactly do you want documentation for?

We don't even know what actual research went into the development of the standards.

Fine, but what exactly do you want documentation for?

On what basis they wrote the standards. They do not provide any data.

Anonymous wrote:

PP said that the Common Core standards came primarily from existing state standards, which were developed and vetted by teachers. What documentation are you looking for? That the Common Core standards came primarily from existing state standards? That existing state standards were developed and vetted by teachers?

She is quoting the CC website--which says that but give no documentation. She is just parroting the website.

Fine, but what exactly do you want documentation for?

PP said that the Common Core standards came primarily from existing state standards, which were developed and vetted by teachers. What documentation are you looking for? That the Common Core standards came primarily from existing state standards? That existing state standards were developed and vetted by teachers?

She is quoting the CC website--which says that but give no documentation. She is just parroting the website.

Anonymous wrote:

This has already been addressed about a hundred times - they were not dropped from a UFO or developed in secret by big evil corporations - they primarily came from existing state standards, which were developed and vetted by teachers and educators all around the country. http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/

And, you keep posting the propaganda from the Common Core website. Please give some documentation. The list of the developers does not include teachers. You should know that by now.

PP said that the Common Core standards came primarily from existing state standards, which were developed and vetted by teachers. What documentation are you looking for? That the Common Core standards came primarily from existing state standards? That existing state standards were developed and vetted by teachers?